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Here is something for some of you to think about Where did the basics for the christian bible come from a older religion than christianity.
What are the similarities between Christianity and Zoroastrianism?
Answer
Some of the numerous similarities between Christianity and Zoroastrianism include:•Monotheism
Christianity worships the Abrahamic God; Zoroastrianism worships Ahura Mazda.
In each case, God or Ahura Mazda created the world.
•Holy Spirit
Ahuramazda has a Holy Spirit that sometimes seems to be him and at other times seems to be independent. The Holy Spirit of Christianity has the same characteristics.
•Saviour
Christianity has Jesus who was born of a virgin and will return at the end of time to defeat evil and establish his kingdom; Zoroastrianism says that the Saoshyant or saviour will be born of a virgin and will lead humanity in the last battle against evil.
•The devil
The Christian Satan parallels the Zoroastrian Ahriman or Angra Mainyu.
•Angels
•Archangels
Christianity has seven archangels; Zoroastrianism has seven Amesha Spenta.
•Immortality of soul and life after death.
•Heaven as a place of reward for the righteous, and hell as a place of punishment
•Resurrection at the end of the world, when the dead revive and the new world will have a fresh life and new beginning.
•The last judgement
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_simila...
Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.

People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.

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QUIT deleting my post libs!
Now Fact: All aspects ObamaGov
Completely
Corrupt/Criminal
No, folks. The Obama syndicate was never incompetent.
It was and is, however,
the most corrupt,
criminal
and
openly tyrannical
US government,
which is now openly attacking the USA and its people,
that has existed in US history.
It has also, until recently, been able to keep all aspects of its tyranny under wraps…with the assistance and collaboration of the equally corrupt US media. Even today, many media outlets are still working for Obama, in order to minimize his visible complicity in the assassinations of US citizens in Benghazi, his illegal spying on and record-seizing of news agencies and their reporters ...
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
Intentional Irresponsibility
May 23, 2013
Obama will never admit to wrongdoing.
More
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
May 23, 2013
Intentional Irresponsibility
The Obama Administration's attempt to deny involvement in any of the recent scandals is both intentional and possibly mortally wounding.
The executive branch of the United States government is out of control, while Americans wonder who is responsible. But getting here was no accident. Growing up in the 1960's, the mantra of the left was to "over-throw the establishment." When asked what might replace it, young radicals told us they had no idea. You were either "part of the problem or part of the solution." The rank of community organizers rose to change "the system." But what if one actually rose to run the system? At that point, he himself would have to take responsibility, right? Wrong.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/05/i...
Yes, I noticed that posts 156748, 764 and 776 have been removed. I wonder why and by whom. I know some of my posts have .... vanished!
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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
Wrong. Rogue Dumbarse dreams he is persecuted to justify his hatred of other religions, especially OMG ISLAM.

Rogue Dumbarse has yet to explain the significance of his fixation on age. Why is one religion being older than another if any significance?

It's not, of course. And of course Christianity adopted the traditions and practices of other religions. Are you pretending that is not the case?

Then you'd be truly dumb if you thought that.

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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
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Wrong. Rogue Dumbarse dreams he is persecuted to justify his hatred of other religions, especially OMG ISLAM.
Rogue Dumbarse has yet to explain the significance of his fixation on age. Why is one religion being older than another if any significance?
It's not, of course. And of course Christianity adopted the traditions and practices of other religions. Are you pretending that is not the case?
Then you'd be truly dumb if you thought that.
Okay Tootie, where did I mention Islam, Muslims, etc.?
Og, and my point being, if Zoroastrianism came after Judaism, just how does nebka think that Judaism is based on Zoroastrianism?

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Jacques,
I saw a guy getting busted today outside of Target.
He looked all disheveled and stuff and all of a sudden four squads came out of nowhere and made an arrest. They made him put his hands on his head and they cuffed him and whisked him away fairly quickly. He was probably a shoplifter because I saw three red-shirted employees outside pointing their fingers at him to one of the cops.
I was next door at the grogery store and saw it happen.
Speaking of the most beautiful sound you may ever hear, go to Youtube sometime and check out Chopin's Nocturne #8 in D flat, opus 27 #2. That's the title.
Listen intently. It is my latest musical conquest. I think you will like it. I'm a full 2 pages in and it is wicked hard. It is exquisite, I must say.
Much more so than any repititious Muslim call to prayer will ever be.
All of your following phrase was admirable, namely : "I was next door at the grogery store and saw it happen.
Speaking of the most beautiful sound you may ever hear, go to Youtube sometime and check out Chopin's Nocturne #8 in D flat, opus 27 #2. That's the title.
Listen intently. It is my latest musical conquest. I think you will like it. I'm a full 2 pages in and it is wicked hard. It is exquisite, I must say."

Then you ruin it totally by writing : "Much more so than any repititious Muslim call to prayer will ever be". How idiotic. What's the rapport? Can't believe you wrote that first phrase.

PS : Heard the Ottawa Philarmonci performing Nocturne Nr 8 last year. Thank you.

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Here is something for some of you to think about Where did the basics for the christian bible come from a older religion than christianity.
What are the similarities between Christianity and Zoroastrianism?
Answer
Some of the numerous similarities between Christianity and Zoroastrianism include:•Monotheism
Christianity worships the Abrahamic God; Zoroastrianism worships Ahura Mazda.
In each case, God or Ahura Mazda created the world.
•Holy Spirit
Ahuramazda has a Holy Spirit that sometimes seems to be him and at other times seems to be independent. The Holy Spirit of Christianity has the same characteristics.
•Saviour
Christianity has Jesus who was born of a virgin and will return at the end of time to defeat evil and establish his kingdom; Zoroastrianism says that the Saoshyant or saviour will be born of a virgin and will lead humanity in the last battle against evil.
•The devil
The Christian Satan parallels the Zoroastrian Ahriman or Angra Mainyu.
•Angels
•Archangels
Christianity has seven archangels; Zoroastrianism has seven Amesha Spenta.
•Immortality of soul and life after death.
•Heaven as a place of reward for the righteous, and hell as a place of punishment
•Resurrection at the end of the world, when the dead revive and the new world will have a fresh life and new beginning.
•The last judgement
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_simila...
Good work. You do realise that in birthers' eyes, you are now officially an atheist.

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Topix deletes a large number of posts of those who are vehement in attacking SHEEPLE.
If you are addicted to Obama ASS-CRACK your post is safe regardless of whether it is vulgar, nonsensical, outright lie, or an off-topic waste of space.
Clean your cookies up and keep posting the truth.
We have to keep the Obots employed or they will go on welfare and increase the national deficit even more, Lol.
You're now going to repeat the above post ad infinitum and will be able to state that "Topix deletes a large number of posts of those who are vehement in attacking SHEEPLE."

Oh, I forgot, you'll change a word here and there so the Topix "machine" will not delete it.

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Look out everyone, Poopoo is here. Try not to step in it.
Ahhhh, akNOTaPilot,; how we missed your distinguished prose. Welcome back.

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The Fence Test
You can't get any more accurate than this!
This is straight forward country thinking.
by
Jeff Foxworthy
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Which side of the fence?
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
A Democrat demands that those they don't like be shut down.
If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because he's "offended".
Well, I forwarded it.
Which one are you?
Rogue, for God's sake. Have you ever seen Fowworthy's show? Will you ever, one day, cite credible sources?

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Then why is the Muslim prayer call to breakfast the most beautiful sound he has ever heard?
How many Christians can you prove have ever spoke of their Muslim faith?
Let me help you, NONE!
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Hummmm, but you Libtards complain about church bells on Sunday but call people like me a bigot because we do not want to listen to anyone's prayers five times a day blared out over loud speakers.
Sound level might be checked outside St. Sebastian Church: September 04, 2010
By Lisa Yensen, Press & Guide Newspapers
DEARBORN HEIGHTS -- The controversy surrounding sounds emanating from St. Sebastian Catholic Church is not over yet.
St. Sebastian, located at 20710 Colgate Street in Dearborn Heights, has become the center of an argument about whether or not church bells and hymns should continue to ring out through the neighborhood – and at what volumn.
Although the bells are exempt from the city’s noise ordinance, questions remain about the hymns.
http://www.pressandguide.com/articles/2010/09...
SATURDAY, JUNE 4, 2011
Christians Under Siege in Dearbornistan, Michigan
A Muslim diaspora has taken over an American city. A Christian immigrant from Libya came to the United States hoping to experience the American dream; instead he found a Muslim enclave that is more oppressive than Omar Kaddafi’s regime. And what city could this be? You guessed it: Dearborn, Michigan.
Dearbornistan has become a closed city. Christians can’t ring their church bells.
http://costonscomplaint.blogspot.com/2011/06/...
Rogue : "Hummmm, but you Libtards complain about church bells on Sunday "

I did? I do?

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Grand Birther wrote:
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Then why is the Muslim prayer call to breakfast the most beautiful sound he has ever heard?
How many Christians can you prove have ever spoke of their Muslim faith?
Let me help you, NONE!
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Hummmm, but you Libtards complain about church bells on Sunday but call people like me a bigot because we do not want to listen to anyone's prayers five times a day blared out over loud speakers.
Sound level might be checked outside St. Sebastian Church: September 04, 2010
By Lisa Yensen, Press & Guide Newspapers
DEARBORN HEIGHTS -- The controversy surrounding sounds emanating from St. Sebastian Catholic Church is not over yet.
St. Sebastian, located at 20710 Colgate Street in Dearborn Heights, has become the center of an argument about whether or not church bells and hymns should continue to ring out through the neighborhood – and at what volumn.
Although the bells are exempt from the city’s noise ordinance, questions remain about the hymns.
http://www.pressandguide.com/articles/2010/09...
SATURDAY, JUNE 4, 2011
Christians Under Siege in Dearbornistan, Michigan
A Muslim diaspora has taken over an American city. A Christian immigrant from Libya came to the United States hoping to experience the American dream; instead he found a Muslim enclave that is more oppressive than Omar Kaddafi’s regime. And what city could this be? You guessed it: Dearborn, Michigan.
Dearbornistan has become a closed city. Christians can’t ring their church bells.
http://costonscomplaint.blogspot.com/2011/06/...
P.§.: And strange. I live in a city of over 1 million inhabitants. I read the papers. Watch the news. Listen to people. In all my years here, I have not read or heard one single complaint concerning church bells. Can you please give some kind of proof of what you've advanced?

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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
See Nebka? Told you. He didn't call you an atheist, but came pretty darn close.

And, Rogue thinks if you spout something first or are the first to do something, you are THE one. You're right because you were first. That means Stalin was better than Hitler because he came first and Hitler better than Pol Pot because HE came before him. And so forth. And GWB better than Obama because he preceded him. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd)

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Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.

And on his farm he had some liar,
E-I-E-I-O.

With a liar, liar, here
And a liar, liar there,
Here a liar, there a liar,
Everywhere a liar, liar,

Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.

And on his farm he had some liar,
E-I-E-I-O.

With a liar, liar, here
And a liar, liar there,
Here a liar, there a liar,
Everywhere a liar, liar,

Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.

And on his White House he had some puffer boys,
E-I-E-I-O.

With a puffer boy, puffer boy, here
And a puffer boy, scandal there,
Here a puffer boy, there a puffer boy,
Everywhere puffer boys,

Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.

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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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See Nebka? Told you. He didn't call you an atheist, but came pretty darn close.
And, Rogue thinks if you spout something first or are the first to do something, you are THE one. You're right because you were first. That means Stalin was better than Hitler because he came first and Hitler better than Pol Pot because HE came before him. And so forth. And GWB better than Obama because he preceded him. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd)
No, Stalin was WORSE than Hitler because he came first and Hitler WORSE than Pol Pot because HE came before him. And so forth. And GWB better than Obama but not as great as Reagan. LMAO

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P.§.: And strange. I live in a city of over 1 million inhabitants. I read the papers. Watch the news. Listen to people. In all my years here, I have not read or heard one single complaint concerning church bells. Can you please give some kind of proof of what you've advanced?
Well, there are two possibilities here. Either you are the only atheist or the churches were not allowed to ring their bells to begin with!

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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
I do not hate Judaism and Christendom just because i post about about a religion that some of the same ideas about god, the devil and Jesus.

Just about ever major religion on the Earth has the same story on how the Earth was made a god, a devil and even a person like Jesus and some of those religions are older than the bible.

OK Rouge if some of those religions are older than Christendom why do they have similar people in it.

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What did these Unionist think was going to happen under ObamaCare? Under ObamaCare only the One Percenters will get first class medical care. The rest of the 99% will be at the back of the bus!!!
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Some unions now angry about health care overhaul

Published: May 24, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP)— When President Barack Obama pushed his health care overhaul plan through Congress, he counted labor unions among his strongest supporters.

But some unions leaders have grown frustrated and angry about what they say are unexpected consequences of the new law — problems that they say could jeopardize the health benefits offered to millions of their members.

The issue could create a political headache next year for Democrats facing re-election if disgruntled union members believe the Obama administration and Congress aren't working to fix the problem.

"It makes an untruth out of what the president said, that if you like your insurance, you could keep it," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. "That is not going to be true for millions of workers now."

The problem lies in the unique multiemployer health plans that cover unionized workers in retail, construction, transportation and other industries with seasonal or temporary employment. Known as Taft-Hartley plans, they are jointly administered by unions and smaller employers that pool resources to offer more than 20 million workers and family members continuous coverage, even during times of unemployment.

The union plans were already more costly to run than traditional single-employer health plans. The Affordable Care Act has added to that cost — for the unions' and other plans — by requiring health plans to cover dependents up to age 26, eliminate annual or lifetime coverage limits and extend coverage to people with pre-existing conditions.

"We're concerned that employers will be increasingly tempted to drop coverage through our plans and let our members fend for themselves on the health exchanges," said David Treanor, director of health care initiatives at the Operating Engineers union.

Workers seeking coverage in the state-based marketplaces, known as exchanges, can qualify for subsidies, determined by a sliding scale based on income. By contrast, the new law does not allow workers in the union plans to receive similar subsidies.

Bob Laszewski, a health care industry consultant, said the real fear among unions is that "a lot of these labor contracts are very expensive and now employers are going to have an alternative to very expensive labor health benefits."

"If the workers can get benefits that are as good through Obamacare in the exchanges, then why do you need the union?" Laszewski said. "In my mind, what the unions are fearing is that workers for the first time can get very good health benefits for a subsidized cost someplace other than the employer."

However, Laszewski said it was unlikely employers would drop the union plans immediately because they are subject to ongoing collective bargaining agreements.

Labor unions have been among the president's closest allies, spending millions of dollars to help him win re-election and help Democrats keep their majority in the Senate. The wrangling over health care comes as unions have continued to see steady declines in membership and attacks on public employee unions in state legislatures around the country. The Obama administration walks a fine line between defending the president's signature legislative achievement and not angering a powerful constituency as it looks ahead to the 2014 elections.

Union officials have been working with the administration for more than a year to try to get a regulatory fix that would allow low-income workers in their plans to receive subsidies. But after months of negotiations, labor leaders say they have been told it won't happen.

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"It's not favoritism. We want to be treated fairly," said Hansen, whose union has about 800,000 of its 1.3 million members covered under Taft-Hartley policies. "We would expect more help from this administration."

Sabrina Siddiqui, a Treasury Department spokeswoman, declined to discuss the specifics of any negotiations between the administration and union officials. But she said the law helps bring down costs and improve quality of care.

Katie Mahoney, executive director of health policy at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said employers were concerned about possible increases in health care costs and would do what was needed to keep their businesses running and retain worker talent. The Chamber has not taken a position on the union concerns, but Mahoney said it was highly unlikely that the administration would consider subsidies for workers in the union plans.

"They are not going to offset the expense of added mandates under the health care law, which employers and unions are going to pay for," Mahoney said.

Unions say their health care plans in many cases offer better coverage with broader doctors' networks and lower premiums than what would be available in the exchanges, particularly when it comes to part-time workers.

Unions backed the health care legislation because they expected it to curb inflation in health coverage, reduce the number of uninsured Americans and level the playing field for companies that were already providing quality benefits. While unions knew there were lingering issues after the law passed, they believed those could be fixed through rulemaking.

But last month, the union representing roofers issued a statement calling for "repeal or complete reform" of the health care law. Kinsey Robinson, president of the United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers, complained that labor's concerns over the health care law "have not been addressed, or in some instances, totally ignored."

"In the rush to achieve its passage, many of the act's provisions were not fully conceived, resulting in unintended consequences that are inconsistent with the promise that those who were satisfied with their employer-sponsored coverage could keep it," Robinson said.

Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Firefighters, said unions have been forceful in seeking solutions from the Obama administration, but none have been forthcoming. While Congress could address the problem by amending the health care law, Schaitberger said Senate Democrats told union leaders earlier this month that any new legislation was highly unlikely.
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Oh, debka still can not write more than a few sentences. But he can cut and paste. The question is, "who came first", Abraham, from whom Judaism came from, or Zoroaster, from whom Zoroastrianism came from?!?
From Wiki: Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC.
People like nebka hate Judaism and Christendom and will do anything to undermine these religions.
nebka wrote:
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I do not hate Judaism and Christendom just because i post about about a religion that some of the same ideas about god, the devil and Jesus.
Just about ever major religion on the Earth has the same story on how the Earth was made a god, a devil and even a person like Jesus and some of those religions are older than the bible.
OK Rouge if some of those religions are older than Christendom why do they have similar people in it.
Ah, but that article you posted said that the Jews and Christians got their ideas from Zoroastrianism! But maybe they got their ideas from Judaism!!!

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Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.
And on his White House he had some liar,
E-I-E-I-O.
With a liar, liar, here
And a liar, liar there,
Here a liar, there a liar,
Everywhere a liar, liar,
Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.
And on his White House he had some scandal,
E-I-E-I-O.
With a scandal, scandal here
And a scandal, scandal there,
Here a scandal, there a scandal,
Everywhere a scandal,
Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.
And on his White House he had some puffer boys,
E-I-E-I-O.
With a puffer boy, puffer boy, here
And a puffer boy, puffer boy there,
Here a puffer boy, there a puffer boy,
Everywhere puffer boys,
Old Obama had a White House,
E-I-E-I-O.

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