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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157197 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the ONLY Democrat who ever signed a balanced budget since 1958 was Bill Clinton. He signed four of Newt Gingrich's Balanced Budgets into law!!!
Let's see if you can debunk that?!?
You live in a corporate Republican bubble my friend.

Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton opened the floodgates to the Bush/Cheney 2008 financial meltdown.

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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157198 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the ONLY Democrat who ever signed a balanced budget since 1958 was Bill Clinton. He signed four of Newt Gingrich's Balanced Budgets into law!!!
Let's see if you can debunk that?!?
I did not realize you liked Clinton so much.

I guess you will be voting for Hillary in 2016 instead of Jeb Bush.

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Greenspan Concedes He `Found a Flaw' in His Free-Market Ideology
Oct. 23 (Bloomberg)-- Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, under a grilling from lawmakers at a congressional hearing today, conceded a flaw in his free-market ideology that contributed to a ``once-in-a-century credit tsunami.''
``Yes, I found a flaw,'' Greenspan said in response to questions from to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.``That is precisely the reason I was shocked because I'd been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.'' http://tinyurl.com/5ea9ng
Greenspan said he was ``partially'' wrong in his opposition in recent years to the regulation of derivatives. He said in a May 2005 speech that ``private regulation generally has proved far better at constraining excessive risk-taking than has government regulation.''
Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, a California Democrat, said Greenspan had ``the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis.''
``You were advised to do so by many others,'' he told Greenspan.``And now our whole economy is paying the price.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157199 May 28, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that about 90% of all millionaires are self-made, don't you?
Yep, and government needs to stop doling out subsidies to lazy people who will not go to work or to alcohol and drug abusers. People on welfare should not be allowed to use alcohol or tobacco and if they get caught using illegal drugs, the are off the welfare system! And if they can not take care of their children, they should have their children taken away and they should be spayed or neutered just like a dog or cat.
Richard B. Cheney became a Multi-Millionaire going from Government to Halliburton and back to government.

How do you think Cheney became CEO of Halliburton?

It was payback for the Billions of taxpayer dollars for War.

Republicans love government for their friends.

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To all Republicans put your name in the blanks

I,_________ as a conservative do hereby pledge I will continue my condemnations of the poor in the Charles Dickens story, "A Christmas Carol", because I know Bob Cratchit's family were lazy deadbeats who could pay for their own health care and gotten help for their son, Tiny Tim, if they wanted to. I believe Tiny Tim should be prevented from getting health care and die, because he is poor.

I,_______, as a conservative believe in individual rights for CEOs and business owners like Ebenezer Scrooge, but not for individual rights to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness for those who are poor, downtrodden or oppressed. Also, because I believe the poor in the Bible were deadbeats, I will continue to condemn Jesus because he was an evil socialist because he healed the sick for free, he fed the hungry for free and he lifted the spirits of the downtrodden for free. I also condemn the Good Samaritan for not charging to help that poor, beaten man who was left for dead on the side of a lonely road. I believe that the priest and the temple assistant who first found the beaten man and left him for dead without helping him did the right thing and that the Good Samaritan was an evil socialist, because not only did the Good Samaritan help the beaten man, he even gave him money so he could feed and cloth himself.

I,________, as a conservative further condemn Jesus for always attacking the rich and praising the poor, because I know CEOs and the wealthy are the true sons of god because, after all, look at how much god has rewarded them. I believe those on Wall Street deserve to make as much money as possible by using schemes and scams, like the guy who made 3 billion in 2008 alone. As a conservative I believe it is right that a person who makes 3 billion behind a computer producing nothing for his fellow man or society. I believe that Wall Street should be paid 86,000 times more than hard working teachers, firefighters, police officers and nurses, all of whom actually contribute to society and help their fellow man.

I,_________ as a conservative who always trusts the government to start wars, trusts government to bomb people, trusts government to spy on people, trusts government to incarcerate people without charges, trusts government to torture people, trusts government to arrest people without warrants and trusts government to use secret wiretaps on people, do hereby pledge to continue to distrust government to help heal sick and dying Americans. I fear government intrusion into my life, but I cheer on corporate intrusions on my privacy, my livelihood, and my life. I fear any government attempt to heal people, yet trust government to kill, maim, torture, arrest, incarcerate and execute people.

I,_______, as a conservative, make these pledges in the name of the 'god of unbridled, unregulated capitalism' and in the names of its disciples, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. Amen and amen.
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157200 May 28, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Barack Hussein Obama is a anti-American, Kenyan-American who as a youth lived in Indonesia as a Muslim. It is not against the law to be a Muslim in the United States,it is however unpatriotic to lie about your religious beliefs. It is against the law to take an oath of office to defend the Constitution while you are trying to destroy it. Every since Obama has been occupying The White House he has been trying to destroy and divide our county. The past five years have been full of scandal and deceit. Why hasn't Obama been impeached by now?
Obama will never be impeached because he swept 8 years of Bush/Cheney crimes under the rug.

And Obama is continuing most of all Bush/Cheney policy.

So in actuality YOU Should LOVE Obama.

lol

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O'Donnell: Limbaugh "believes the Obama agenda is socialism" but Limbaugh "lie’s very directly about what socialism is"
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200901260022

Rush Limbaugh: 20 Years of Lies and Hate
Rush & Coulter - Two Pigs in a Palm Beach Pod
http://knol.google.com/k/hunk/rush-limbaugh-2...

Rush Limbaugh Attacks Obama with Lies and Bigotry
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/99972/rush...

Late-Period Limbaugh
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06...

Rush Limbaugh Mocks 12 Year-Old SCHIP Advocate While Claiming Never To Have Attacked Him
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/19/rush_limb...

"What I Meant to Say"
Limbaugh Responds to FAIR
http://www.fair.org/index.php...

Lying' Bully
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1995/05/l...

GM Courts Talk Radio Hosts
by Ralph Nader August 11, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2a45e3
Just when one guesses that the standards and practices of national talk radio could go no lower, General Motors comes along to show the way to new lows.
Automotive News (August 6, 2007), the leading trade journal for the industry, reports that GM is wooing the radio stars. Its article led with the headline:“Puff Piece. Rush Limbaugh is one of the radio personalities GM is working with to talk up its vehicles.”

What is surprising is that GM purportedly enlisted not only the expected suspects like Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Bill O’Reilly but also Bill Press and Ed Schultz, know for their liberal views. Attempts to reach Press, Schultz and Hannity were unsuccessful. Surely, they will be explaining their relationship shortly.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/1...

Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks under His Eyes.
http://tinyurl.com/23ztgc6


BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Rage on the Radio | Full Segment | PBS
http://tinyurl.com/4373r5
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
http://tinyurl.com/25l8t9
http://video.google.com/videoplay...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157201 May 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue : "Whatever, but one thing for sure, it's all Obama's fault".
Rogue's predictions for today's DJIA :
1. DJIA tanks. Obama's fault
2. DJIA gains. Rep congress's doing. Oh, and Newt's budget LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
Rogue lives in a Limbaugh fantasyland.

He does not realize that every three months the top echelon of Wall Street trade in their stock options worth millions.

So Rogue must think that is good for Rogue and his family.

The Ronald Reagan Trickled Down effect.

ROTFL

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157202 May 28, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
Richard B. Cheney became a Multi-Millionaire going from Government to Halliburton and back to government.
How do you think Cheney became CEO of Halliburton?
It was payback for the Billions of taxpayer dollars for War.
Republicans love government for their friends.
----------
To all Republicans put your name in the blanks
I,_________ as a conservative do hereby pledge I will continue my condemnations of the poor in the Charles Dickens story, "A Christmas Carol", because I know Bob Cratchit's family were lazy deadbeats who could pay for their own health care and gotten help for their son, Tiny Tim, if they wanted to. I believe Tiny Tim should be prevented from getting health care and die, because he is poor.
I,_______, as a conservative believe in individual rights for CEOs and business owners like Ebenezer Scrooge, but not for individual rights to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness for those who are poor, downtrodden or oppressed. Also, because I believe the poor in the Bible were deadbeats, I will continue to condemn Jesus because he was an evil socialist because he healed the sick for free, he fed the hungry for free and he lifted the spirits of the downtrodden for free. I also condemn the Good Samaritan for not charging to help that poor, beaten man who was left for dead on the side of a lonely road. I believe that the priest and the temple assistant who first found the beaten man and left him for dead without helping him did the right thing and that the Good Samaritan was an evil socialist, because not only did the Good Samaritan help the beaten man, he even gave him money so he could feed and cloth himself.
I,________, as a conservative further condemn Jesus for always attacking the rich and praising the poor, because I know CEOs and the wealthy are the true sons of god because, after all, look at how much god has rewarded them. I believe those on Wall Street deserve to make as much money as possible by using schemes and scams, like the guy who made 3 billion in 2008 alone. As a conservative I believe it is right that a person who makes 3 billion behind a computer producing nothing for his fellow man or society. I believe that Wall Street should be paid 86,000 times more than hard working teachers, firefighters, police officers and nurses, all of whom actually contribute to society and help their fellow man.
I,_________ as a conservative who always trusts the government to start wars, trusts government to bomb people, trusts government to spy on people, trusts government to incarcerate people without charges, trusts government to torture people, trusts government to arrest people without warrants and trusts government to use secret wiretaps on people, do hereby pledge to continue to distrust government to help heal sick and dying Americans. I fear government intrusion into my life, but I cheer on corporate intrusions on my privacy, my livelihood, and my life. I fear any government attempt to heal people, yet trust government to kill, maim, torture, arrest, incarcerate and execute people.
I,_______, as a conservative, make these pledges in the name of the 'god of unbridled, unregulated capitalism' and in the names of its disciples, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. Amen and amen.
I like your post.

Incidentally, can 33 of 34 OECD countries be wrong about universal health care? Not perfect those 34, to be sure, but better than the alternative, as Charles Boyer once said.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157203 May 28, 2013
...those 33

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157205 May 28, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue lives in a Limbaugh fantasyland.
He does not realize that every three months the top echelon of Wall Street trade in their stock options worth millions.
So Rogue must think that is good for Rogue and his family.
The Ronald Reagan Trickled Down effect.
ROTFL
What top echelon Wall Street mogul doesn't love the Ronald Reagan trickle-down model?

As to Rogue's America's self-made billionaires...what horsesh*t. The last self-made richest men are Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Jobs, Walton, and that's about it. And they all date back to anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago. The rest of the big boys' clubs are "entrepreneurs", shysters, who latched on to big companies, paid themselves handsomely in salary, dividends and stock options which you just mentioned and so often, greed, dishonesty and incompetence combined drove their companies into the ground. Rogue defends them, servitude being an honourable estate to him, for the meek shall inherit the earth. Yeah, sure, right in the mouth.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157206 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job. And he chose Gen. Schwarzkopf as his combat field commander. If Powell had been the field commander I seriously doubt the Persian Gulf War would have turned out as well as it did.
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9mO4UCYyef8XX
Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Two points here. First of all MY point is that Gen Schwarzkopf was The MAN for the actual conduct of the PERSIAN GULF WAR (1991) and Powell was stuck in D.C. and that was good.
Next, did we go on to Baghdad in 1991? NO!!! So your points are off topic and moot!
So for your rebuttal, you get an F!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157207 May 28, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama will never be impeached because he swept 8 years of Bush/Cheney crimes under the rug.
And Obama is continuing most of all Bush/Cheney policy.
So in actuality YOU Should LOVE Obama.
lol
==========
O'Donnell: Limbaugh "believes the Obama agenda is socialism" but Limbaugh "lie’s very directly about what socialism is"
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200901260022
Rush Limbaugh: 20 Years of Lies and Hate
Rush & Coulter - Two Pigs in a Palm Beach Pod
http://knol.google.com/k/hunk/rush-limbaugh-2...
Rush Limbaugh Attacks Obama with Lies and Bigotry
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/99972/rush...
Late-Period Limbaugh
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06...
Rush Limbaugh Mocks 12 Year-Old SCHIP Advocate While Claiming Never To Have Attacked Him
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/19/rush_limb...
"What I Meant to Say"
Limbaugh Responds to FAIR
http://www.fair.org/index.php...
Lying' Bully
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1995/05/l...
GM Courts Talk Radio Hosts
by Ralph Nader August 11, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2a45e3
Just when one guesses that the standards and practices of national talk radio could go no lower, General Motors comes along to show the way to new lows.
Automotive News (August 6, 2007), the leading trade journal for the industry, reports that GM is wooing the radio stars. Its article led with the headline:“Puff Piece. Rush Limbaugh is one of the radio personalities GM is working with to talk up its vehicles.”
What is surprising is that GM purportedly enlisted not only the expected suspects like Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Bill O’Reilly but also Bill Press and Ed Schultz, know for their liberal views. Attempts to reach Press, Schultz and Hannity were unsuccessful. Surely, they will be explaining their relationship shortly.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/1...
Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks under His Eyes.
http://tinyurl.com/23ztgc6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =QuG9TdtEbu8XX
BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Rage on the Radio | Full Segment | PBS
http://tinyurl.com/4373r5
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
http://tinyurl.com/25l8t9
http://video.google.com/videoplay...
I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157208 May 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
What top echelon Wall Street mogul doesn't love the Ronald Reagan trickle-down model?
As to Rogue's America's self-made billionaires...what horsesh*t. The last self-made richest men are Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Jobs, Walton, and that's about it. And they all date back to anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago. The rest of the big boys' clubs are "entrepreneurs", shysters, who latched on to big companies, paid themselves handsomely in salary, dividends and stock options which you just mentioned and so often, greed, dishonesty and incompetence combined drove their companies into the ground. Rogue defends them, servitude being an honourable estate to him, for the meek shall inherit the earth. Yeah, sure, right in the mouth.
Ah, what was Bill Gates' net worth when he was 21 years old? Steve Jobs'? Donald Trump's? Warren Buffett's I think I have more than made my point!!!
Oh, how about Bush-41? He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth! And Bush-43? An even bigger silver spoon!! And they were both Country Club RINOs too!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157209 May 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I like your post.
Incidentally, can 33 of 34 OECD countries be wrong about universal health care? Not perfect those 34, to be sure, but better than the alternative, as Charles Boyer once said.
And their universal health care has been an albatross around their economic necks.
And we still have about SEVEN MILLION few employed Americans now than when Obama entered the White House and about NINE million few than we had in 2007!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157210 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.
Well, the difference between my "sources rebuttals" and yours, Rogue, is that I go into the subject, I explain why the sources are not credible, and supply you with a full explanation of why you are dead wrong most of the time. Then, anywhere from a week to 2 months later, you repeat the same nonsense, citing the same bogus sources. "Plus ça change..."

BTW, vets' sources are impeccable and what's more, he doesn't only rely on them, he knows what he's talking about, can expand on them. Not a cut-and-paster is he.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157211 May 28, 2013
VoteVets.org is a lefty front site will only 5% of their members are combat vets. They were formed to get supporters for Obama but out of the

From Wiki: In February 2007, a VoteVets.org spokesman told the The Washington Post that the group had 20,000 members, including 1,000 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

That's right, out of over TWO million Iraq and Afghan War vets only 1,000 only 0.00005% are members of VoteVets! What a laugh!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157212 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the difference between my "sources rebuttals" and yours, Rogue, is that I go into the subject, I explain why the sources are not credible, and supply you with a full explanation of why you are dead wrong most of the time. Then, anywhere from a week to 2 months later, you repeat the same nonsense, citing the same bogus sources. "Plus ça change..."
BTW, vets' sources are impeccable and what's more, he doesn't only rely on them, he knows what he's talking about, can expand on them. Not a cut-and-paster is he.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157213 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Japanese Nikkei dropped another 3.22% today and their market reopens in a little over an hour from now and if it does not go up even slightly, expect our DOW to begin DOWN tomorrow too.
Earlier today the Nekkei settle up 1.2% and that along with some good new on our home front has had a positive effect on our markets.
The DOW is now up 1.4%!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157214 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
VoteVets.org is a lefty front site will only 5% of their members are combat vets. They were formed to get supporters for Obama but out of the
From Wiki: In February 2007, a VoteVets.org spokesman told the The Washington Post that the group had 20,000 members, including 1,000 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
That's right, out of over TWO million Iraq and Afghan War vets only 1,000 only 0.00005% are members of VoteVets! What a laugh!!!
I could so easily reply to the above, but hey, vets is much more qualified than me. I'll abstain.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#157215 May 28, 2013
Anoracle wrote:
OBAMA WAS BORN IN MOMBASA, KENYA! YOU NEED AN EDITOR! WAKE UP!‏
You say: "The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii,
has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.
Hawaiian officials agree." THIS IS A LIE!
"Hawaiian Officials" MERELY said they "have his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE"!
They did not say: it is a 'HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE'!
Have some literate person read to you the
"A/P report of the Hawaiian Officials statements"?
Answer:

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157216 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.
<quoted text>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Vue2DIghZDMXX
Thank you. We each of us have our own way of saying we're wrong. I suppose yours is a good as the next guy's.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157217 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, what was Bill Gates' net worth when he was 21 years old? Steve Jobs'? Donald Trump's? Warren Buffett's I think I have more than made my point!!!
Oh, how about Bush-41? He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth! And Bush-43? An even bigger silver spoon!! And they were both Country Club RINOs too!!!
Do you even realise that your post confirms what I wrote, namely that today's self-made billionaires all "made it" anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago? Jobs, 20 years back, Gates, 30 years, Buffett, 25 years, Trump, not counting his father's wealth and his own bankruptcies,...etc. Name me one self-made billionaire of the last 10 years, Rogue, with the exception of Face Book founder Mark Zuckerberg.

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