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#156442 May 21, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
Nazrat wrote:
Yep, Obama promised the most transparent administration but what we got was the most corrupt administration in history.
DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower, May 20, 2013
The Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General published a new report Monday that confirms former U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke leaked a document intended to smear Operation Fast and Furious scandal whistleblower John Dodson.
The DOJ IG said it found “Burke’s conduct in disclosing the Dodson memorandum to be inappropriate for a Department employee and wholly unbefitting a U.S. Attorney.”
“We are referring to OPR our finding that Burke violated Department policy in disclosing the Dodson memorandum to a member of the media for a determination of whether Burke’s conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct for the state bars in which Burke is a member,” the IG wrote.
Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/2013/05/doj-inspecto ...
<quoted text>
Oh wow, you figured that out? Now, do you have the intelligence to rebut one of the points above?!?
Rebut your cut'n'paste and conclusory accusation?

Those are not "points."
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#156443 May 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
LMAO!!! You haven't proof of Obama's birth in the USA, since his LFBC has been proven to be BOGUS and his sister which as we all know was born in Indonesia has a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii.
Just who is this person you call Barrack H. Obama?

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#156446 May 21, 2013
Jon Stewart Totally DESTROYS Obama Administration Over IRS Scandal

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#156447 May 21, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
And I guarantee everyone here that : Rogue and his birther and tea party Ilk are, as we speak, scouring the right-wing internet sites for any criticism on how the Obama administration is and will be handling the Oklahoma disaster relief and so on. It's already on its way as we speak.
As if you are YOUR ilk did not do that when Bush was president?!?

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#156448 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot! But I believe anyone who keeps his faith, whether a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc., would respect all. And would take only what he needed,,,,,, not all that he wanted!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Your father could judge church-going parishioners by the way they drove out of the parking lot? Do you have any other idiocies to post here today, Rogue?
My father did not JUDGE them. People like Rev. Wright judge people when they say "God damn ....."!
My father, like myself, had/have no idea who God will allow in heaven, or condemn to hell. But YOU sure seem to!
You second judge our prayers all the time. How atheistic of you!

Since: May 10

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#156449 May 21, 2013
The Atheist and the Bear!

An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the evolution had created. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!", he said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing.

He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.

At that instant the Atheist cried out "Oh my God!...."
Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.

As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all of these years; teach others I don't exist; and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"

The atheist looked directly into the light "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as Christian now, but perhaps could you make the bear a Christian?"

"Very well," said the voice.
The light went out.
The river ran again.
And the sounds of the forest resumed.
And then the bear dropped his right paw ..... brought both paws together...bowed his head and spoke:

"Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful...AMEN!"
Author Unknown
http://www.naute.com/jokes/atheist.phtml

Since: May 10

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#156450 May 21, 2013
OguzTolga wrote:
ISTANBUL and REPUBLIC OF TURKEY
THE CENTER OF THE WORLD.
The Center of 3 Major Religions..
Churches,Mosques,Sinagogs and PEACE in Mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G9rnMP2tUeEXX&list=RD02Yg vYAfQQto4
Sorry, sure Turkey maybe more civil than the neighbors to your south, you only allow non-Muslims to exist so long as they remain silent.
If it is otherwise, why not return the Basilica of Constantine to the Christians from whom you Muslims stole it from?

Since: May 10

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#156451 May 21, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Looks like Rogue's and Communist Lady's prayers paid off. Death toll revised to 24 instead of close to 80 previously announced. Thanks to these prayers, over 50 have come back to life.
Seriously, now, this is a tragedy, even if there was only one death. 24 is horrible. And where, oh where are those poor families whose homes have been levelled going to live now and in the immediate future? But to have right-wing holier-than-thou religious hypocrites like Rogue and Commie Lady offer their prayers to those poor people is like offering pork to a practicing Jew or Moslem.
It is sad that the only remarks made by lefties in the past five+ hours are sad troll remarks.

Since: May 10

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#156452 May 21, 2013
Ya know what, I do not get sad when a person who has lived a full life passes on to the next. But it does make me reflect when an innocent life is lost before their time would have come.
I do not blame God as I think he is more concerned about our immortal soul than our mortal life here on earth.

Since: May 10

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#156453 May 21, 2013
When an atheist dies, do you dress them up before you bury them? After all, there is no place for them togo.
And why bury or cremate them? When not leave their flesh for the animals to feast upon? I mean, if atheists think that wild animals have just as much a right to live as they do, why not share the wealth of their nutrition.
Just chuck their carcases out into the woods and let Mother Nature reak to bounty.

Since: May 10

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#156454 May 21, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Barry the alien went too far in 08, congress knew it and just sat on their royal asses.
I disagree, most of Congress ignored the issue mostly for political reasons. I takes a true hero like LTC Terry Lakin to step up and be a martyr! I just hope sooner or later Colonel Lakin will be rewarded for his heroism.
Please note, I never refer to Mr. North as Ltc or Col N*rth because he lied to Congress. When you testify before Congress, you can testify truthfully, refuse to answer based on the Fifth Amendment ..... or LIE and he chose to lie. And I have the same contempt for anyone who also lies to Congress!
Oh, most states have laws that make it a crime to lie to a law enforcement officer who is engaged in investigating a crime and I think the same should also apply to lying Congressmen and Senators whether in a committee or individually in their capacity as such. For some reason we expect to be sworn in or be advised of our rights.

Since: May 10

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#156455 May 21, 2013
I saw George when he was the middle entertainment at a Who and Lead Zeppelin concert in 1968. He will be missed.

Jon Stewart interviews George Carlin

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156456 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Jon Stewart Totally DESTROYS Obama Administration Over IRS Scandal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =e7jYGB2EaOAXX
I knew that humour, wit and intelligent banter were all things that escape you totally. After all, you are conservative, birther and tea partyer. Talk about 3 strikes!

Jon Stewart proceeds to mock the tea party, conservatives, the IRS and while he' at it, the VA. And your reaction is "Jon Stewart Totally DESTROYS Obama Administration Over IRS Scandal"?

OMG

Go back to your late 50s , early 60s humour, Rogue.

Rogue type of humour, 1950s brand.

Guy walks into a bar, "Glass of milk please"
Birther boor gets of his stool, "Oh Yeah, take this, you milk-sucking sissy queer (LRS tm reg'd)" and punches the nerd in the mouth, knocks out all his teeth and lays him out for the count.

Rogue and his friends burst out laughing, "Oh this is the best joke I've ever heard in my life", echoes companion Justice ha ha LRS . And birthers slap their own thighs and rush out for target practice, two of them in such a hurry , shooting themselves in the foot while Rogue peers into the barrel of his loaded gun "with the safety off" to see if it's clean. How it must suck to be a birther tea partyer with no intelligence, no wit, no nuthin' and the laughing stocks of the nation

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156457 May 21, 2013
corr : off his stool

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156458 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, how much war debt has Obama wrung up in the past four years? He did promise to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and close GITMO within ONE YEAR, did he not?!?
How much money has Obama wasted on "Green" energy?
he didn't start those losing wars, remember? Remember "Mission accomplished?". Was it not finished then? What happened?

Gitmo? Ask Congress why it's not closed. Yes, ask your 25% voter-approval GOP congress why Gitmos's not closed.

Deficit ? Decreasing every month, every year. GWB was left with a $400 billion budget surplus, squandered it in less than a year and left Obama with a 600 billion deficit and rising. Keep comparing apples and oranges, Rogue.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156459 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot! But I believe anyone who keeps his faith, whether a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc., would respect all. And would take only what he needed,,,,,, not all that he wanted!
<quoted text>
My father did not JUDGE them. People like Rev. Wright judge people when they say "God damn ....."!
My father, like myself, had/have no idea who God will allow in heaven, or condemn to hell. But YOU sure seem to!
You second judge our prayers all the time. How atheistic of you!
Let's see. So your father did not judge them. Did you write this ? "My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot"

Are you out there?

And why this tirade as to who's going to heaven or hell and what your daddy thought? YOU mentioned, just did, brought it out. I didn't. No one else did.

Since: May 10

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#156460 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
For 6 out of 8 years Bush and Cheney had a Republican House and a Republican Senate.
They increased the size of government with the greatest deficits in history.
BTW: Obama, Reid, Pelosi are all corporate Centrist Democrats and NOT LIBERAL.
You are half-right. Yes, for the first six years on Bush-43 the Republicans did control both Houses of Congress but they were not Conservatives but Country Club RINOs. They had forced most Conservatives out to include New Gingrich.
But BTW, Obama, Reid, Pelosi are not Liberals as true Liberals are free thinkers and they are Progressive Socialists Fascists who want to control every aspect of businesses and peoples lives.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156461 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The Atheist and the Bear!
An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the evolution had created. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!", he said to himself.
As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing.
He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant the Atheist cried out "Oh my God!...."
Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.
As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all of these years; teach others I don't exist; and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"
The atheist looked directly into the light "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as Christian now, but perhaps could you make the bear a Christian?"
"Very well," said the voice.
The light went out.
The river ran again.
And the sounds of the forest resumed.
And then the bear dropped his right paw ..... brought both paws together...bowed his head and spoke:
"Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful...AMEN!"
Author Unknown
http://www.naute.com/jokes/atheist.phtml
Bingo, right on, bear's a Christian, gonna kill the atheist.

Why do you make it so easy? Do you even realise what you've just done, just proved? Not the first time you pick out stuff that makes you look like a twit.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156462 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, sure Turkey maybe more civil than the neighbors to your south, you only allow non-Muslims to exist so long as they remain silent.
If it is otherwise, why not return the Basilica of Constantine to the Christians from whom you Muslims stole it from?
The ex-Basilica is a museum, Rogue, been deconsecrated. Anyone can vist. Turkey is not a Moslem state, as per so many others, Rogue. It is, never mind, look it up.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156463 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know what, I do not get sad when a person who has lived a full life passes on to the next. But it does make me reflect when an innocent life is lost before their time would have come.
I do not blame God as I think he is more concerned about our immortal soul than our mortal life here on earth.
How concerned was he when He killed all those innocent babies and children in Sodome and Gomorrah, and before that, when He flooded the entire earth, how many innocent children did He drown? I assume of course, in both cases , that every living soul was evil and perverted and deserved death, even babies and children. Would you mind explaining that one, Rogue? I ask because you wrote " But it does make me reflect when an innocent life is lost before their time would have come."

Are you going to say that killings were okay in those olden days?

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