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#156427 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
No other future Supreme Court or any court is allowed to use Bush v Gore as precedent. Bush is truly an illegitimate President. http://tinyurl.com/2ps3e3
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/11/07/flanders...
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Has Bush v. Gore Become the Case That Must Not Be Named?
August 15, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/qbx2s
At a law school Supreme Court conference that I attended last fall, there was a panel on “The Rehnquist Court.” No one mentioned Bush v. Gore, the most historic case of William Rehnquist’s time as chief justice, and during the Q. and A. no one asked about it. When I asked a prominent law professor about this strange omission, he told me he had been invited to participate in another Rehnquist retrospective, and was told in advance that Bush v. Gore would not be discussed.
The ruling that stopped the Florida recount and handed the presidency to George W. Bush is disappearing down the legal world’s version of the memory hole, the slot where, in George Orwell’s “1984,” government workers disposed of politically inconvenient records. The Supreme Court has not cited it once since it was decided, and when Justice Antonin Scalia, who loves to hold forth on court precedents, was asked about it at a forum earlier this year, he snapped,“Come on, get over it.”
There is a legal argument for pushing Bush v. Gore aside. The majority opinion announced that the ruling was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent. But many legal scholars insisted at the time that this assertion was itself dictum — the part of a legal opinion that is nonbinding — and illegitimate, because under the doctrine of stare decisis, courts cannot make rulings whose reasoning applies only to a single case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/opinion/15t...
Yep, still whining after 23 years. You need to get a life!

Since: May 10

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#156428 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
O'Connor questions court's decision to take Bush v. Gore
April 27, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/c9sy69e
Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor hasn't given much thought to which was the most important case she helped decide ..........
of messed it up. And probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-m...
Ah Tootzie, how long did it take for the IRS to approve YOUR tax exempt status?

Since: May 10

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#156429 May 21, 2013
I talked to a friend last night and he mentioned that the Army depot in Pennsylvania has not overhauled a M109 Paladin self-propelled field gun in three years!!! When they return from the Mideast, they are just lined up and sit!!!
Apparently the same thing is happening to M1 Abrams tanks and M2/3 Bradleys.
Most of the cost of these vehicles is the hull which almost never wear out and you ran refurbish and update these for a fraction of their real cost. Case in point is the M109 which served in Vietnam and is still economically repairable and updateable.
But the real concern is, what if we have another war and these vehicles will need six month plus to get back in the supply line. Obama is doing the same thing Carter did and that is to gut the military which only endangers our men and women in uniform!

Editorial: M1 tanks? No thanks Sunday, May 5, 2013

The addiction to pork in Washington is coming in 70-ton servings — the M1 Abrams tanks the U.S. Army says it can't stomach but Congress keeps serving. This is bipartisan spending run amok to preserve jobs back home, and it reflects what is wrong with a Congress that talks tough on reducing the fiscal deficit but wastes taxpayer money on military equipment the Army doesn't even want.

The Army wants to stop the ongoing refurbishing of Abrams tanks, which would largely idle a General Dynamics plant in Ohio until 2017 and save roughly $3 billion. After the Pentagon first announced its plan two years ago, the company estimated more than 500 subcontractors employing up to 18,000 people could be affected.

The predictable pushback from Congress came amid aggressive lobbying and campaign contributions from General Dynamics' employees and political action committees, according to the Center for Public Integrity. As the donations rolled in, Congress reauthorized the tank spending in fiscal year 2012, and last year 173 Democratic and Republican House members signed a letter urging the Defense Department to continue tank production to "preserve the industrial base.''

The Army has 2,300 of the M1 Abrams tanks deployed and 3,000 more sitting idle at a military base in California. The Army has said its needs for a 2,384-tank fleet can be met by the end of this year, but Congress wants to spend $436 million to keep refurbishing additional tanks despite the military's objections. Never mind that the Pentagon must absorb $42 billion in sequester cuts by September and cut $487 billion over the next decade. This is another waste of public money just when the pressure to cut spending is increasing.

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/ed...
denise

Rome, NY

#156430 May 21, 2013
Rude ppl

Since: May 10

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#156432 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
I do give Daddy Bush credit for Iraq war One.
90% of the cost was paid by the Arabs, Germans, Japanese, and Daddy Bush had most of the whole world with the USA.
Dumbya Junior Bush did the exact opposite of his father.
Bush and Cheney stuck the American taxpayer with the WAR BILL.
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Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6BEsZMvrq-IXX
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
http://tinyurl.com/ymngms
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Well, how much war debt has Obama wrung up in the past four years? He did promise to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and close GITMO within ONE YEAR, did he not?!?
How much money has Obama wasted on "Green" energy?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156433 May 21, 2013
Looks like Rogue's and Communist Lady's prayers paid off. Death toll revised to 24 instead of close to 80 previously announced. Thanks to these prayers, over 50 have come back to life.

Seriously, now, this is a tragedy, even if there was only one death. 24 is horrible. And where, oh where are those poor families whose homes have been levelled going to live now and in the immediate future? But to have right-wing holier-than-thou religious hypocrites like Rogue and Commie Lady offer their prayers to those poor people is like offering pork to a practicing Jew or Moslem.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156434 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot! But I believe anyone who keeps his faith, whether a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc., would respect all. And would take only what he needed,,,,,, not all that he wanted!
Your father could judge church-going parishioners by the way they drove out of the parking lot? Do you have any other idiocies to post here today, Rogue?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156435 May 21, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Bill Clinton's tawdry extra-marital affairs were a devastating side-effect for Al Gore's election bid.
And Gore's inability to speak in anything other than choppy sentences was not an asset to him or the country either. He couldn't even carry Tennessee.
He's nearly as stiff as John Kerry.
As usual, and except for Gore not carrying Tenn, you're wrong on every count.

Gore made the huge mistake of not using Clinton in his campaign because he feared the after-effects of the Lewinski affair. Gore failed to realise that Clinton was still hugely popular among the electorate and, hey, would've been re-elected in a landslide had he been entitled to a 3rd term. Gore did use Clinton in the last days of the campaign and I assume, had he not, the Supreme court would hot have had to rule in GWB's favour, he would've won it outright. Gore's mistake.

As to Gore's choppy sentences, I agree, not the greatest speaker, which is why he needed to used Clinton's oratorical skills, as Obama shrewdly did -- twice. But, what gall you have criticizing Gore's "choppy sentences" and saying nothing on GWB's speaking abilities? History will have a hard time determining whom of those two was the worst speaker, but one thing for sure, it'll have no problem deciding who was the most knowledgeable and smartest.

Oh, please comment on both Romney and Ryan, pres and vice-pres candidates. who did not carry their own states. Why, vote was not even close, specially in Romney's home state of Mass where he was supposedly so loved. Even Gore was not that slaughtered.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156436 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, still whining after 23 years. You need to get a life!
You are whining about Carter after 33 years. Even blamed the mortgage meltdown of 30 years later on him.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156437 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, how much war debt has Obama wrung up in the past four years? He did promise to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and close GITMO within ONE YEAR, did he not?!?
How much money has Obama wasted on "Green" energy?
He did get out of Iraq. Oh, incidentally, and given the unrest now in Iraq, threats of civil war and all that, 100s dead every week in bombings, please explain to us, rogue, how Iraqis are now better off than they were under tyrant (he was one, yes) Saddam. Have you compared the number of dead since "Mission accomplished" with the number of dead during Saddam's long long reign? Is Iraqi oil cheaper? Are they giving all exploration and exploiting rights to American companies? Did Iraq pay anything for the US's intervention? Hmmm. Please compare the cost of the Iraqi intervention with that of "green energy". Oh, please tell us how people died in the quest for green energy compared to Iraq AND Afghanistan where Obama is doing his darndest after he finished GWB's mission of killing BinLaden, to get the hell out so the Taliban can take over the day after, and have chaos like in Iraq. MissionS accomplished, indeed.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156438 May 21, 2013
And I guarantee everyone here that : Rogue and his birther and tea party Ilk are, as we speak, scouring the right-wing internet sites for any criticism on how the Obama administration is and will be handling the Oklahoma disaster relief and so on. It's already on its way as we speak.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#156439 May 21, 2013
chuck wrote:
IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT OBAMA ,WAS INDEED BORN IN KENYA. AND TRUE TO FORM THE UNITED STATES GOV'T. HAS ALWAYS LIED. WHY ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO WILLING TO SIT BACK AND ACCEPT WHAT IS CONSTITUTIONALLY AND ETHICALLY WRONG. THEY TRIED TO CRUCIFY BILL CLINTON FOR GETTING A LITTLE IN THE CLOSET OF THE OVAL OFFICE. YET CONGRATULATE A MUSLIM ,ALIEN AND VOLATE THE LAWS OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND NOT ONLY LET HIM RUN BUT ALLOW HIM TO BECOME THE MOST DISGRACEFUL PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. ANY BODY AWAKE
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#156440 May 21, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
<quoted text>
I was at Fort Leavenworth, KS when Topeka got hit in June 8, 1966. I had just finished 9th grade and was at the PX when the tornado warning sounded. There was a convenience store in the basement and that was where we went and it was packed.
The lights went out after about a half hour and it was another half hour before we were allowed out. It was very stuffy down there with a whole bunch of people.
The Topeka Tornado - June 8, 1966
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/top/events/66tornado....
I remember that well, I was stationed here at McConnell AFB.
If you're going to live in "Tornado Alley" you'll have to learn how to live with them.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#156441 May 21, 2013
Tea Party Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
4 dead again on Obummers watch.
They even had a warning alarm that Obummers childhood friend Benjamin "The Tornado" Ghazi was going to attack.
Obcrumbler then ordered the attack choppers to stand down as he watched The Tornado murder 4 dead Americans on HD screens from his golf cart.
He could've at least scrambled the super jets to fly over and scare The Tornadoghazi away.
The scandals just keep coming.
Where are the investigations. It's been several hours and not a word from the Honorable Darrell Issa. Wake up and start the impeachment prossess.
This time The Chosen One has gone too far.
Barry the alien went too far in 08, congress knew it and just sat on their royal asses.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156442 May 21, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
Nazrat wrote:
Yep, Obama promised the most transparent administration but what we got was the most corrupt administration in history.
DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower, May 20, 2013
The Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General published a new report Monday that confirms former U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke leaked a document intended to smear Operation Fast and Furious scandal whistleblower John Dodson.
The DOJ IG said it found “Burke’s conduct in disclosing the Dodson memorandum to be inappropriate for a Department employee and wholly unbefitting a U.S. Attorney.”
“We are referring to OPR our finding that Burke violated Department policy in disclosing the Dodson memorandum to a member of the media for a determination of whether Burke’s conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct for the state bars in which Burke is a member,” the IG wrote.
Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/2013/05/doj-inspecto ...
<quoted text>
Oh wow, you figured that out? Now, do you have the intelligence to rebut one of the points above?!?
Rebut your cut'n'paste and conclusory accusation?

Those are not "points."
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#156443 May 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
LMAO!!! You haven't proof of Obama's birth in the USA, since his LFBC has been proven to be BOGUS and his sister which as we all know was born in Indonesia has a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii.
Just who is this person you call Barrack H. Obama?

Since: May 10

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#156446 May 21, 2013
Jon Stewart Totally DESTROYS Obama Administration Over IRS Scandal

Since: May 10

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#156447 May 21, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
And I guarantee everyone here that : Rogue and his birther and tea party Ilk are, as we speak, scouring the right-wing internet sites for any criticism on how the Obama administration is and will be handling the Oklahoma disaster relief and so on. It's already on its way as we speak.
As if you are YOUR ilk did not do that when Bush was president?!?

Since: May 10

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#156448 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot! But I believe anyone who keeps his faith, whether a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc., would respect all. And would take only what he needed,,,,,, not all that he wanted!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Your father could judge church-going parishioners by the way they drove out of the parking lot? Do you have any other idiocies to post here today, Rogue?
My father did not JUDGE them. People like Rev. Wright judge people when they say "God damn ....."!
My father, like myself, had/have no idea who God will allow in heaven, or condemn to hell. But YOU sure seem to!
You second judge our prayers all the time. How atheistic of you!

Since: May 10

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#156449 May 21, 2013
The Atheist and the Bear!

An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the evolution had created. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!", he said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing.

He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.

At that instant the Atheist cried out "Oh my God!...."
Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.

As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all of these years; teach others I don't exist; and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"

The atheist looked directly into the light "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as Christian now, but perhaps could you make the bear a Christian?"

"Very well," said the voice.
The light went out.
The river ran again.
And the sounds of the forest resumed.
And then the bear dropped his right paw ..... brought both paws together...bowed his head and spoke:

"Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful...AMEN!"
Author Unknown
http://www.naute.com/jokes/atheist.phtml

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