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I repeat, Dems and Repubs are dishonest,(they have no choice, beholden as they are to their "sponsors") and work tirelessly for "me, myself and I. But I still maintain that dems do have a thought now and then for the middle class and less fortunate, proof being the social legislation that they alone have pushed and through the years. Also, let's face it, and intellectually speaking, Repubs not in the same league as Dems. And Dem politicians are more interesting, bigger patrons of the arts. That's important to me, reveals an attractive side.
If Bush Jr. was dumb then Obama is even dumber by continuing 90% of all Bush/Cheney failed policies.

Obama, no help for College loans.

Obama, no help for homeowners.

Obama, no single payer health care.

Obama, no transparency.

Obama reneged on just about every promise, even Obamacare was a Republican health care plan WITH NOT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTING FOR IT.

Which means the Democrats are center right and the Republicans are far right.

Obama did not pick even ONE LIBERAL in his cabinet.

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CCR Executive Director Vincent Warren Critical of Elena Kagan’s Nomination to the Supreme Court / http://tinyurl.com/2g3xh28
NEW YORK - May 10 - In response to President Barack Obama's nomination of Solicitor General Elena Kagan to the United States Supreme Court, Center for Constitutional Rights Executive Director Vincent Warren issued the following statement:

"When the president nominates a woman or man to sit for life on the highest court of the land, we must look seriously at the broadest and most long-term implications seating that person will have for our country. At the Center for Constitutional Rights, we have fought at the forefront to hold back presidential overreach and the dangerous growth of executive power, particularly as it concerns torture, detention, surveillance and racial profiling, areas where the government has flouted the law most blatantly over the last decade. I am sad to say that Solicitor General Elena Kagan's record indicates a troubling support for expanding presidential powers, something we must be vigilant about at this time. President Obama would appear to be seeking to appoint a Supreme Court Judge who will endorse his policies and appease conservatives. This is not the way to make a decision that will affect our nation for decades to come."

The Center for Constitutional Rights is dedicated to advancing and protecting the rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Founded in 1966 by attorneys who represented civil rights movements in the South, CCR is a non-profit legal and educational organization committed to the creative use of law as a positive force for social change.
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FBI: 80% of Fraud Attributed To Insiders Not Homeowners
The increased reliance by both financial institutions and non-financial institution lenders on third party brokers has created opportunities for organized fraud groups, particularly where mortgage industry professionals are involved. Combating significant fraud in this area is a priority, because mortgage lending and the housing market have a significant overall effect on the nation's economy. All mortgage fraud programs were recently consolidated within the Financial Institution Fraud Unit, even where the targeted
lender is not a financial institution. This consolidation provides a more effective and efficient management over mortgage fraud investigations, the ability to identify and respond more rapidly to emerging mortgage fraud problems, and a better picture of the overall mortgage fraud problem./ http://www.lvamerica.com/USApdfs/FBI.pdf
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No denying that Obama/Biden did just that, L. They just followed tradition, as every other pres/vp had done in the past. Except for criticism of predecessors' policies IN GENERAL, presidents in office rarely criticize their predecessors or not at all. Otherwise, Obama could've spent months criticizing GWB's two mandates.
I repeat, Dems and Repubs are dishonest,(they have no choice, beholden as they are to their "sponsors") and work tirelessly for "me, myself and I. But I still maintain that dems do have a thought now and then for the middle class and less fortunate, proof being the social legislation that they alone have pushed and through the years. Also, let's face it, and intellectually speaking, Repubs not in the same league as Dems. And Dem politicians are more interesting, bigger patrons of the arts. That's important to me, reveals an attractive side.
Jacques, don't get fooled by the Democrats in the same way Rogue gets fooled with the Republicans.

They are work for Wall Street and talk a good game, both sides.

Unions sold out to corporate Democrats and the Tea Bags sold out to corporate Republicans.

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Government Bailouts: A U.S. Tradition Dating to Hamilton
SEPTEMBER 20, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/ygk788s
The bubble pops. Lenders freeze. Depositors lose faith. Panic spreads. And the government steps in because nobody else will.
Today it is Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke putting together the rescue package for a financial system rocked by falling home prices and a wave of defaults on subprime mortgages.

But a short walk through U.S. history demonstrates the point made by Alex J. Pollock of the American Enterprise Institute: "If you would like an empirical law of government behavior, it is that in a panic or threatened financial collapse, governments intervene -- every government, every party, every country, every time."
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-------The Tea Party sold out to Wall Street
GOP freshmen, big-bucks donors hobnob at resort
March 16, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/85yw3o9
Sandy Adams (Fla.), Quico Canseco (Texas), Rick Crawford (Ark.), Bob Dold (Ill.), Sean Duffy (Wis.), Stephen Fincher (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Daniel Webster (Fla.), Mike Grimm (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), Jim Renacci (Ohio) and Cory Gardner (Col).
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The Real Boston Tea Party was an Anti-Corporate Revolt
CNBC Correspondent Rick Santelli called for a "Chicago Tea Party" on Feb 19th in protesting President Obama's plan to help homeowners in trouble. Santelli's call was answered by the right-wing group FreedomWorks, which funds campaigns promoting big business interests, and is the opposite of what the real Boston Tea Party was. FreedomWorks was funded in 2004 by Dick Armey (former Republican House Majority leader & lobbyist); consolidated Citizens for a Sound Economy, funded by the Koch family; and Empower America, a lobbying firm, that had fought against healthcare and minimum-wage efforts while hailing deregulation.

Anti-tax "tea party" organizers are delivering one million tea bags to a Washington, D.C., park Wednesday morning - to promote protests across the country by people they say are fed up with high taxes and excess spending.

The real Boston Tea Party was a protest against huge corporate tax cuts for the British East India Company, the largest trans-national corporation then in existence. This corporate tax cut threatened to decimate small Colonial businesses by helping the BEIC pull a Wal-Mart against small entrepreneurial tea shops, and individuals began a revolt that kicked-off a series of events that ended in the creation of The United States of America. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/04/15-1...
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Ah chowderhead, The Geneva Accords do not address "illegal combatants" except to say that they are not covered under the Geneva Accords. To be covered by the Geneva Accords you first must be a "Legal Combatant" which means you 1) must represent a country and 2) be in an identifiable military uniform with rank!
Everyone of the Taliban and al Qaeda do not represent any country and they do not wear any uniform! Ergo, they are not protected by the Geneva Accords in any shape manner or form.
In other words, that guys at Harvard must have flunked out of the Geneva Accords class!
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Hey Tootzie, Just how does that rebut even one of my points? Comparing apples to oranges again.
My point was the Geneva Accords does not address "illegal combatants" except define who is, and how is not, a legal combatant!!! And if you are not a legal combatant, or a noncombatant, you are NOT protected by the Geneva Accords.
Read the Army Manuel I provided for you.

General Powell & General Petraeus understand the issues better than you.
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No, they all spin the news. In fact they often do NOT report the news as shown in the Dr. Goswell story.
Oh, and the NYT ceased being a newspaper decades ago and has been, like MSNBC, just talking points for the Progressive movement!
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Okay, if the NYT is a real newspaper, what did they report about the Dr. Goswell trial .... before he was convicted?
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Lol, Rogue Moron is of course wrong again. Just like his fantasy that the so-called mainstream media was not covering the case, the NYT has coverage going back years. Yet another Rogue Moron fantasy comes to naught.
Here's an article from January 19, 2011.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/us/20doctor...
Reading comprehension problem?!? I said "trial" and that article was about the indictment!!!
As Bill Clinton told Monica, "No cigar"!
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So does this mean you're ready to defend your fable? Somehow I doubt it. Fale on Dufus. Fale on
Kerplunk!
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Read the Army Manuel I provided for you.
General Powell & General Petraeus understand the issues better than you.
Generals Powell and Petraeus are both left-wing political hacks. All generals are political appointees, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. As a result, some generals lean left and some right depending on who appointed them.
For an example, in 1989 Reagan appointed Powell to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. WHY? Well, Reagan knew the Democrat controlled Senate would approve it and Reagan knew that the Chairman JofS was a dead end job.
In the end that proved to be a correct appointment as Colon was stuck i D.D. while Gen. Schwarzkopf was combate field commander in the Persian Gulf!!! If Powell had been the field commander, the war probably would not turned out very well for us.
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While FDR was president, he did not like Gen MacArthur soooo he gave him the Civilian Conservation Corps to run. It was a dead end job and after a while MacArthur retired.
From Wiki:[Gen. MacArthur] retired from the U.S. Army in 1937 to become Military Advisor to the Commonwealth Government of the Philippines.

MacArthur was recalled to active duty in 1941 as commander of United States Army Forces in the Far East.
MacArthur was only recalled by FDR as FDR was in big trouble as he finally realized that war was inevitable and that Gen. Geo. Marshall wanted him.
Oh, Gen Geo. Marshall was also left of center but no so much as that he did not know who a good field commander was.
There was a lot of shuffling in 1941 and early 1942 when more CONSERVATIVE generals and admirals were advanced.
Oh, and Ike, well he too was a left of center generals and would not have been a very good combate field commanders like Patton and Bradley were. But Ike was a great logistical and planner and he was smart enough on who he picked to actually made the combat decisions.
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Justice ha ha Dale. What a misnomer. To be a Justice, one has to have a modicum of intelligence. You are below modicum, as you've so aptly proven time and time again.
Indeed, in this latest one, you just didn't "get" the gist of Obama's message to these college students, to wit, and take one example only, that when you are black, you start life with 2 strikes and therefore efforts have to be redoubled.
I suggest you alter your moniker to read "Dumb Dale". That should do it for now until we find something lower than "dumb". Suggestions : LRS, AkNotApilot, KFC GB, Rogue, Frank, American Pravda Lady, Rush, for starters. Oh,I believe you'd have to obtain their permission. If you do, you could, for starters, name yourself "LRS clone" which will tell you apart from the original slithering slug.
jack ha ha fish! What a fool. To be a Justice, you first must be an American (in this discussion) which you're not even close to being. Not on any level. Think of it this way, you're simply not American material! LMAO!

And looky who is talking about changing monikers! LMAO! You are the puppetmaster, jackfish. I see you're still making your racist views known to everyone. Nice. Very nice. I bet you believe every word that comes out of Obumbler's mouth, don't you? Isn't it amazing how Obumbler has all the answers, that is, until he is asked a direct and simple question! What a fool your parents had. squidboy
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Your small Republican Government is a MYTH:
12 years of Reagan/Bush and 8 years of Bush/Cheney increased the size of government with the largest deficits in history.
Enclosed is the Proof:
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President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $100 Billion in one year!
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $200 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $300 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $400 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $500 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion AGAIN! Almost hits $600 Billion!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a THIRD time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FOURTH time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FIFTH time!
"Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!" / http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
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BUSH REPUBLICANS DESTROYED USA with the help of some Blue Dog Corporate Democrats!
Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'
February 28, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/2r8b3k
THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.
Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.
Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.
The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.
The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit.
"The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system," he said.
That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said.
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During WWII a reporter asked Prime Minister Churchill who his best general was and Churchill replied, "Adolf Hitler"!
And I wonder if you Libtards 'get it'?

Arrogance is Obama’s Worst Enemy

By Rick Manning
The Obama Administration felt the backlash from liberal media sources this past week and appears to be reeling from a sudden realization that they aren’t in Kansas anymore.
First it was Jon Stewart, whose Comedy Central “news” broadcast is must see tv for many of Obama’s under 30 voter base. While dismissing Benghazi, Stewart goes apoplectic on Obama over the IRS and then breaking Associated Press investigations scandals.
Next,“the don’t blame me” defense fell flat with an unlikely source — MSNBC host Chris Matthews.
Matthews, who served in the Carter Administration and for six years as a top staffer for former House Speaker Tip O’Neill, reminded viewers and perhaps Obama himself that,“He does run the IRS. He runs the Treasury Department. He runs the United States government, and he is accountable for it, and this is nonsensical.”
No solace for the Obama spin machine in that normally reliable, if little watched, outpost of the far left.
The week ended with venerable liberal old line CBS journalist Bob Schieffer stunning the White House by demanding to know,“why are you here?” of White House advisor Dan Pfeiffer who was making the Sunday show rounds, Susan Rice-style, giving the designated talking points.
Schieffer, who has covered his share of White House scandals expressed frustration and a bit of pent up outrage that Pfeiffer was replaying the role Susan Rice played in the wake of Benghazi where he reminded viewers,“The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.”
In one week, Obama’s scandal defense got sideswiped by every component of the liberal media spin machine: the primary voice to the low information young voters, bad information far left voters, and a respected messenger to the too-lazy-to-change-the-channel -for-the-past-twenty-years baby boomer and senior voters.
Quite a trifecta, and the problem Obama faces is that they have no idea how to deal with a now semi-hostile media.
Their experience has been to isolate talk radio and Fox News by demonizing them, and relying on the rest of the media to carry their water.
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The past week of hard questions and outright disgust over Obama’s blatant overreaching tactics of dealing with his political enemies has left the liberal media at sea.
Obama was their guy. It was inconceivable that he could actually be lying.
Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the newly awakened media will be tested as the Administration is attempting to make the CIA the scapegoat in the Benghazi scandal, and the Obama IRS claim that it was isolated to low-level employees at the Cincinnati office gets severely tested.
On Benghazi, it is almost impossible to believe that Obama really wants to take on the CIA, especially since their director at the time is a venerated war hero who had to resign his post for actions that Democrats excused from Bill Clinton.
What are the chances that General Petraeus sets the record straight on what happened during those fateful hours when the apparent inaction of our military led to at least two additional American deaths in Benghazi?
On the IRS front, the revelation that the person responsible for overseeing the targeting of conservative groups is now in charge of the newly minted IRS Obamacare division threatens to become elected Democrats worst nightmare.
An already unpopular Obamacare now has a face. The face of a bureaucrat who saw nothing wrong with implementing obvious politically motivated targeting.
The IRS issue goes to the heart of the basic trust that government depends upon. An abiding faith by the American people that regardless of political differences government policies will be implemented equally and fairly.
Now, the Obama Administration has thrown away this trust, and every decision made by the IRS, every deployment of their massive new set of agents and every complaint about unfair treatment will be treated with new legitimacy.
Compounding these two issues is the AP wiretapping. Nothing gets the media upset like finding out they were being spied on. This turned cynicism into absolute outrage against Obama as well as fear that Obama was using his hardball tactics against them.
No one expects Jon Stewart, Chris Matthews and Bob Schieffer to have a Damascus Road-like conversion and suddenly run blistering pieces about Obama every night. But Obama has clearly lost the moral high ground forever. A high ground that allowed these three and others like them to avert their eyes from actions that did not fit the liberal narrative.
It is this breached relationship with his media allies that is the greatest threat to Obama’s presidency and legacy, and it is likely that in Obama’s arrogance, he doesn’t even know it.
Rick Manning (@rmanning957) is the Vice President of Public Policy & Communications for Americans for Limited Government.

Read more at NetRightDaily.com : http://netrightdaily.com/2013/05/arrogance-is...

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Obama addresses Morehouse graduating student, stating they must work twice as hard as whites to achieve their goals!!! Is Obama telling these student they are not as smart as whites, I call this a slap in the face of every student at that University.
I guess this is telling the white population to slow down, if you out class the black college students it will probably be racism!!!
What a nice guy Obama is!!!! Not only does he tell the blacks of this nation that they are slow, he tell the whites to slack-off!!!
It is really too bad I didn't get that info four years ago, I might-not have retired!
Yep, "Money for nothing and my chicks for free"!<quoted text>
Again you attack the messenger and ignore the message. But I will make a minor correction. Obama did NOT say they had to work "twice as hard" but he did say others had said that and that is not quite the same thing. But it does imply that that is his opinion too!
Check it out on this video, picking it up at about 8:40.
President Obama's Morehouse College Commencement Speech - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
But I also feel that his speech is full of racial overtones. Did Obama forget that not all of the student are BLACK? When he said that THEY looked just like HIM, was he referring to the WHITE students? Obama needs to get off the race bus and get on the people bus!!!
YOU POST THIS PIECE OF CRAP :

HOW THE BLACK FOLK BUILT THIS COUNTRY
THIS IS FOR ALL YOU RACISTS OUT THERE.
HOW THE BLACK FOLK HAS HELPED THE ECONOMY
What people don’t realize is how the black folk grew our economy higher than it could ever have grown without them.

Example:

When blacks moved into the white areas in the 60’s they acted like fools with their jiving and jacking around and the whites didn’t want to live around that shit, so they worked two jobs and sold their houses and moved away to the suburbs and built new houses and the forest and lumber industries grew and the hardware stores grew and millions of dollars surged into the economy building roads so the whites could get to and from work.

Then the blacks started robbing and stealing because they were unqualified for jobs because they jived around at school instead of learning and the whites had to buy replacement stuff and the economy grew even stronger.

Since the blacks were unemployed they started hanging around and drinking malt liquor and the malt liquor makers had to expand and add more workers so the economy grew stronger again.

The blacks started shooting people and the hospitals grew and new ones were built and more cops, nurses and doctors were required. People had to buy guard dogs and security alarm companies grew stronger.

Pet stores then sprung up everywhere to sell stuff for the guard dogs. Then the blacks were thrown into jail and new jails had to be built and more guards were hired and the economy grew even stronger than before.

Then the blacks went on welfare and the whites had to work harder to support them and the economy grew stronger.

Then the blacks bought fancy cars and the auto industry grew and TV makers were thrilled and whites bought guns and ammunition to keep the blacks out of their stuff so gun manufacturing jobs grew.

So you see, we owe a lot to the black folk, so stop being so prejudiced!

AND NOW, SEE ABOVE, YOU POST THIS : "Obama needs to get off the race bus and get on the people bus!!!"

Flaming racist hypocrite
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Your small Republican Government is a MYTH:
12 years of Reagan/Bush and 8 years of Bush/Cheney increased the size of government with the largest deficits in history.
Enclosed is the Proof:
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President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $100 Billion in one year!
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $200 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $300 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $400 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $500 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion AGAIN! Almost hits $600 Billion!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a THIRD time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FOURTH time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FIFTH time!
"Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!" / http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
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BUSH REPUBLICANS DESTROYED USA with the help of some Blue Dog Corporate Democrats!
Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'
February 28, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/2r8b3k
THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.
Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.
Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.
The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.
The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit.
"The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system," he said.
That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said.
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LMAO!!!!!
But what she does not seem to comprehend is that under Reagan the the 98th and 99th Congresses, the Republicans controlled the Senate and that coincides with the debt trend going down between 1986 and 1989 and then when Bush-41 the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and the trend went UP!!!
And under Clinton in 1994 BOTH Houses of Congress where controlled not only by the Republicans, but CONSERVATIVE Republicans under Newt Gingrich and that was when the trend started down.
But under Bush-43 both Houses were controlled by Country Club RINOs until the PROGRESSIVES under San Fran Nan Pelosi and Dirty Hairy Reid took over for Bush's last two years in office and that is why FY2008 took off like a skyrocket!!!

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Is God an abortionist?
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Does God help a shoot pull the trigger? What if the shooter is an atheists, did God still help him murder someone?
I believe in divine guidance in that we all have free will and I think God is more interested in our immortal soul than our mortal bodies.
I have no idea when God puts his finger out and says that is human life and I have no idea whom He will allow into Heaven. But for some reason people like Jacques, who is an atheist, seems to think he knows what God thinks!!!
Again, you are so full of it, Rogue. I do not know what God thinks, but what I do know is you never think before opening your mouth or posting on Topix. It is accepted in Christian faith that God knows you you before you are born, knows what you will do or not do on earth and knows exactly whether you will end up in heaven or hell. There is no denying that, such is the Christian faith. My question still stands : If He knows someone will be damned even before that someone is born, why does He allow this birth in the first place? One question I've asked you several times, Rogue : your daughter is a free person, right? Can do as she pleases, right? She is free as all humanity is because that's what God decreed. Well, one morning, she tells you she's going to jump off a 50-storey building at 6PM and she means it. You gonna let her go ahead? Do you get it now?
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Yep, Libtards forget the the budgetary process is controlled by the Speaker of the House and that is why he is second in line for succession to the presidency behind the Veep!
The president can only sign into law what bills Congress passes!!!

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Democracynow org wrote:
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Gen. Petraeus Warns Against Using Torture
May 11, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2gbsso
The top U.S. commander in Iraq admonished his troops regarding the results of an Army survey that found that many U.S military personnel there are willing to tolerate some torture of suspects and unwilling to report abuse by comrades.
"This fight depends on securing the population, which must understand that we -- not our enemies -- occupy the moral high ground," Army Gen. David H. Petraeus wrote in an open letter dated May 10 and posted on a military Web site.
He rejected the argument that torture is sometimes needed to quickly obtain crucial information. "Beyond the basic fact that such actions are illegal, history shows that they also are frequently neither useful nor necessary," he stated.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Army Field Manual 2-22.3 Human Intelligence Collector Operations
http://tinyurl.com/cfdvnt
http://www.enlisted.info/field-manuals/fm-2-2...
FM 2-22.3 (FM 34-52) HUMAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTOR OPERATIONS
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm2-22-3.p...
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Torture did not yield significant leads, officials say
Not a single significant plot was foiled as a result of Abu Zubaydah's tortured confessions, according to former senior government officials who closely followed the interrogations./ http://tinyurl.com/dec7np / March 29, 2009
WASHINGTON — When CIA officials subjected their first high-value captive, Abu Zubaydah, to waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods, they were convinced they had in their custody an al-Qaida leader who knew details of operations yet to be unleashed, and they were facing increasing pressure from the White House to get those secrets out of him.
The methods succeeded in breaking him, and the stories he told of al-Qaida terrorism plots sent CIA officers around the globe chasing leads.
In the end, not a single significant plot was foiled as a result of Zubaydah's tortured confessions, according to former senior government officials who closely followed the interrogations. Nearly all of the leads attained through the harsh measures quickly evaporated, while most of the useful information from Zubaydah — chiefly names of al-Qaida members and associates — was obtained before waterboarding was introduced, they said. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationw...
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Torture doesn't work
It erodes national security and democracy.
November 14, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/d48yoc
A morally bankrupt foreign policy. A degeneration of democratic checks and balances.
Those are just a few of the disturbing facets of the state of the US government revealed by the debates over the confirmation of Attorney General Michael Mukasey and his views on whether waterboarding constitutes torture.
But the deepest irony of the Bush administration's ambivalent stance on such medieval tactics – practiced in the name of defending national security – is that torture is not only wrong, it's also a stupid strategy that undermines the defense of democratic societies against terror.
US leaders must correct their profoundly mistaken analysis and ignorance of the lessons of history about torture. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1114/p09s01-coo...
Great work. 100% in agreement. And your sources are undeniable.

Of course, your post will receive very bad reviews from birthers and tea partyers. Having no decent or intelligent reply, expect abuse, name-calling and profanity. Such is the nature of the birther beast.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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That's funny is that Reagan and Bush-41 had Democrat controlled Congresses and they had inherited Jimmy Carters recession.
Oh wow, did you notice that Obama increased the national debt in less than four years that G.W. Bush did in eight whole years?!?
Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'
Good ole Rogue. It was not those Republican presidents' fault that deficits ballooned and gov't workforce increased like never before under their watch. No, it was those darned Democratic congresses (who knew that federal employment hiring was controlled by Congress?). So those deficits and increased civil servants were the Congresses' faults, hot the Repub presidents'. Of course, we now, still have deficits. The House is Republican. But hey , this is different, opines Rogue. This time, it's the president's fault.

Go figure.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Again you attack the messenger and ignore the message. But I will make a minor correction. Obama did NOT say they had to work "twice as hard" but he did say others had said that and that is not quite the same thing. But it does imply that that is his opinion too!
Check it out on this video, picking it up at about 8:40.
President Obama's Morehouse College Commencement Speech - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
But I also feel that his speech is full of racial overtones. Did Obama forget that not all of the student are BLACK? When he said that THEY looked just like HIM, was he referring to the WHITE students? Obama needs to get off the race bus and get on the people bus!!!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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YOU POST THIS PIECE OF CRAP :
HOW THE BLACK FOLK BUILT THIS COUNTRY
THIS IS FOR ALL YOU RACISTS OUT THERE.
HOW THE BLACK FOLK HAS HELPED THE ECONOMY
What people don’t realize is how the black folk grew our economy higher than it could ever have grown without them.
Example:
When blacks moved into the white areas in the 60’s they acted like fools with their jiving and jacking around and the whites didn’t want to live around that shit, so they worked two jobs and sold their houses and moved away to the suburbs and built new houses and the forest and lumber industries grew and the hardware stores grew and millions of dollars surged into the economy building roads so the whites could get to and from work.
Then the blacks started robbing and stealing because they were unqualified for jobs because they jived around at school instead of learning and the whites had to buy replacement stuff and the economy grew even stronger.
Since the blacks were unemployed they started hanging around and drinking malt liquor and the malt liquor makers had to expand and add more workers so the economy grew stronger again.
The blacks started shooting people and the hospitals grew and new ones were built and more cops, nurses and doctors were required. People had to buy guard dogs and security alarm companies grew stronger.
Pet stores then sprung up everywhere to sell stuff for the guard dogs. Then the blacks were thrown into jail and new jails had to be built and more guards were hired and the economy grew even stronger than before.
Then the blacks went on welfare and the whites had to work harder to support them and the economy grew stronger.
Then the blacks bought fancy cars and the auto industry grew and TV makers were thrilled and whites bought guns and ammunition to keep the blacks out of their stuff so gun manufacturing jobs grew.
So you see, we owe a lot to the black folk, so stop being so prejudiced!
AND NOW, SEE ABOVE, YOU POST THIS : "Obama needs to get off the race bus and get on the people bus!!!"
Flaming racist hypocrite
Can you f-ing read??? My post was about Obama's speech yesterday at Morehouse College!!!
But since you brought those points up, all people of welfare drag our country down and a disproportionate number are BLACKS!!! Blacks make up about 13% of our population but contribute less than ten percent to our overall economy!!!
We need to start promoting the family UNIT and everyone will be far better off!!!
Poor people do not need air conditioning, hot and cold running water, soft drinks, color TV or for that matter cable TV, Obama phones, a car much less two or three cars, etc. Only in America would they even be remotely considered to be poor. Why in Africa they would be in the top ten percent by wealth!
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Fox News flash, DoJ has also obtained phone records and emails of Fox News reporters.
DOJ's Targeting Of Fox News Reporter James Rosen Met With Outrage - The Huffington Post | By Jack Mirkinson: Posted: 05/20/2013
A new article about how the Obama administration tracked the movements and correspondence of a Fox News reporter led to a fresh round of condemnation by journalists on Monday.
The Washington Post published an explosive story about the Justice Department's monitoring of James Rosen, a Fox News reporter based in Washington. Rosen allegedly spoke to Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a State Department contractor, for a story about North Korea's nuclear program. The Justice Department charged Kim with violating the Espionage Act for his contact with Rosen.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/jame...
Oh oh, now it is up to THREE Fox News reporters who have been under DoJ investigations. WHY? Well, the Fox News reporters were investigating Fast and Furious!!!!
Since when is it a crime to report on a corrupt Federal program!!!
Yep, you Libtards have criminalized politics. If you don't tote the Libtard agenda, they will hound you!!!

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Justice LRS wrote:
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LMAO!!!!!
Democracy submitted two very impressive posts, amongst others. I don't always agree with him, but hell, he does advance excellent opinions, often accompanied by supporting material. He deserves well thought-out and intelligent responses.

So far today, you, Justice ha ha LRS, have replied ;

1. kerplunk (please explain the meaning of "kerplunk");
2. LMAO

That's it? Whatever you've stated, your being American does NOT make you a justice. But you are a fool. Happily for you, that does not require American citizenship.

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