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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#156415 May 21, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Great work. 100% in agreement. And your sources are undeniable.
Of course, your post will receive very bad reviews from birthers and tea partyers. Having no decent or intelligent reply, expect abuse, name-calling and profanity. Such is the nature of the birther beast.
I am very aware of the crazies on this thread.

LOL
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#156416 May 21, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
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Generals Powell and Petraeus are both left-wing political hacks. All generals are political appointees, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. As a result, some generals lean left and some right depending on who appointed them.
For an example, in 1989 Reagan appointed Powell to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. WHY? Well, Reagan knew the Democrat controlled Senate would approve it and Reagan knew that the Chairman JofS was a dead end job.
In the end that proved to be a correct appointment as Colon was stuck i D.D. while Gen. Schwarzkopf was combate field commander in the Persian Gulf!!! If Powell had been the field commander, the war probably would not turned out very well for us.
I do give Daddy Bush credit for Iraq war One.

90% of the cost was paid by the Arabs, Germans, Japanese, and Daddy Bush had most of the whole world with the USA.

Dumbya Junior Bush did the exact opposite of his father.

Bush and Cheney stuck the American taxpayer with the WAR BILL.

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Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b


General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
http://tinyurl.com/ymngms
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#156417 May 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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LMAO!!!!!
O'Connor questions court's decision to take Bush v. Gore

April 27, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/c9sy69e

Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor hasn't given much thought to which was the most important case she helped decide during her 25 years on the bench. But she has no doubt which was the most controversial.

It was Bush v. Gore, which ended the Florida recount and decided the 2000 presidential election.

Looking back, O'Connor said, she isn't sure the high court should have taken the case.

"It took the case and decided it at a time when it was still a big election issue," O'Connor said during a talk Friday with the Tribune editorial board. "Maybe the court should have said,'We're not going to take it, goodbye.'"

The case, she said, "stirred up the public" and "gave the court a less-than-perfect reputation."

"Obviously the court did reach a decision and thought it had to reach a decision," she said. "It turned out the election authorities in Florida hadn't done a real good job there and kind of messed it up. And probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-m...
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#156418 May 21, 2013
No other future Supreme Court or any court is allowed to use Bush v Gore as precedent. Bush is truly an illegitimate President. http://tinyurl.com/2ps3e3
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/11/07/flanders...

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Has Bush v. Gore Become the Case That Must Not Be Named?
August 15, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/qbx2s
At a law school Supreme Court conference that I attended last fall, there was a panel on “The Rehnquist Court.” No one mentioned Bush v. Gore, the most historic case of William Rehnquist’s time as chief justice, and during the Q. and A. no one asked about it. When I asked a prominent law professor about this strange omission, he told me he had been invited to participate in another Rehnquist retrospective, and was told in advance that Bush v. Gore would not be discussed.
The ruling that stopped the Florida recount and handed the presidency to George W. Bush is disappearing down the legal world’s version of the memory hole, the slot where, in George Orwell’s “1984,” government workers disposed of politically inconvenient records. The Supreme Court has not cited it once since it was decided, and when Justice Antonin Scalia, who loves to hold forth on court precedents, was asked about it at a forum earlier this year, he snapped,“Come on, get over it.”
There is a legal argument for pushing Bush v. Gore aside. The majority opinion announced that the ruling was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent. But many legal scholars insisted at the time that this assertion was itself dictum — the part of a legal opinion that is nonbinding — and illegitimate, because under the doctrine of stare decisis, courts cannot make rulings whose reasoning applies only to a single case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/opinion/15t...
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#156419 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
chuck wrote:
IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT OBAMA ,WAS INDEED BORN IN KENYA. AND TRUE TO FORM THE UNITED STATES GOV'T. HAS ALWAYS LIED. WHY ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO WILLING TO SIT BACK AND ACCEPT WHAT IS CONSTITUTIONALLY AND ETHICALLY WRONG. THEY TRIED TO CRUCIFY BILL CLINTON FOR GETTING A LITTLE IN THE CLOSET OF THE OVAL OFFICE. YET CONGRATULATE A MUSLIM ,ALIEN AND VOLATE THE LAWS OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND NOT ONLY LET HIM RUN BUT ALLOW HIM TO BECOME THE MOST DISGRACEFUL PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. ANY BODY AWAKE
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
neighbor

Rome, NY

#156420 May 21, 2013
Bull larky

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#156421 May 21, 2013
Jacques,
Bill Clinton's tawdry extra-marital affairs were a devastating side-effect for Al Gore's election bid.
And Gore's inability to speak in anything other than choppy sentences was not an asset to him or the country either. He couldn't even carry Tennessee.
He's nearly as stiff as John Kerry.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156422 May 21, 2013
OMG, you can not believe this sh*t. My good old friend, Dr. James Hansen, use to not only believe in Global Cooling some 35 odd years ago but he believed we were entering another Little Ice Age.
But not only that, he thought the New Little Ice Age would mean more TORNADOES!!!
Thank you God, thank you God, for exposing Dr. James Hansen as the idiot I knew he was!!!
Oh, make sure you go to the link and read the newspaper release from 1975!!!

Oklahoma’s Tornadoes Caused by Global Cooling — 1975 Theory Written by Gary North on May 21, 2013

There is a simple explanation for the tornadoes in Oklahoma: global cooling. That was hot stuff in 1975.

James Hansen, an up-and-coming climate scientist with NASA in 1971, laid the groundwork with his computer model that showed that a new ice age was coming. Hard to believe? Click here. Today, he is the most famous of the global warmers — sorry,“climate change” scientists.
As for tornadoes in Oklahoma, the ever-alert Real Science blog posted this clipping.

Read more: http://teapartyeconomist.com/2013/05/21/oklah...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156423 May 21, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Bill Clinton's tawdry extra-marital affairs were a devastating side-effect for Al Gore's election bid.
And Gore's inability to speak in anything other than choppy sentences was not an asset to him or the country either. He couldn't even carry Tennessee.
He's nearly as stiff as John Kerry.
Yep, if good old Owl Gore had won his home state, he would not have needed FLORIDA!!!
Why in 1984 Walter Mondale won his home state which was the ONLY state (+ D.C.) he won!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156425 May 21, 2013
Global Warming Petition Project
http://www.petitionproject.org/

Signers by state;
http://www.petitionproject.org/signers_by_sta...

And I thought you Libtards said that 97% of all Scientists agreed that manmade Global Warming was real?!?!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156426 May 21, 2013
neighbor wrote:
Bull larky
Sheeple larky!!! LOL

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156427 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
No other future Supreme Court or any court is allowed to use Bush v Gore as precedent. Bush is truly an illegitimate President. http://tinyurl.com/2ps3e3
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/11/07/flanders...
---------
Has Bush v. Gore Become the Case That Must Not Be Named?
August 15, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/qbx2s
At a law school Supreme Court conference that I attended last fall, there was a panel on “The Rehnquist Court.” No one mentioned Bush v. Gore, the most historic case of William Rehnquist’s time as chief justice, and during the Q. and A. no one asked about it. When I asked a prominent law professor about this strange omission, he told me he had been invited to participate in another Rehnquist retrospective, and was told in advance that Bush v. Gore would not be discussed.
The ruling that stopped the Florida recount and handed the presidency to George W. Bush is disappearing down the legal world’s version of the memory hole, the slot where, in George Orwell’s “1984,” government workers disposed of politically inconvenient records. The Supreme Court has not cited it once since it was decided, and when Justice Antonin Scalia, who loves to hold forth on court precedents, was asked about it at a forum earlier this year, he snapped,“Come on, get over it.”
There is a legal argument for pushing Bush v. Gore aside. The majority opinion announced that the ruling was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent. But many legal scholars insisted at the time that this assertion was itself dictum — the part of a legal opinion that is nonbinding — and illegitimate, because under the doctrine of stare decisis, courts cannot make rulings whose reasoning applies only to a single case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/opinion/15t...
Yep, still whining after 23 years. You need to get a life!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156428 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
O'Connor questions court's decision to take Bush v. Gore
April 27, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/c9sy69e
Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor hasn't given much thought to which was the most important case she helped decide ..........
of messed it up. And probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-m...
Ah Tootzie, how long did it take for the IRS to approve YOUR tax exempt status?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156429 May 21, 2013
I talked to a friend last night and he mentioned that the Army depot in Pennsylvania has not overhauled a M109 Paladin self-propelled field gun in three years!!! When they return from the Mideast, they are just lined up and sit!!!
Apparently the same thing is happening to M1 Abrams tanks and M2/3 Bradleys.
Most of the cost of these vehicles is the hull which almost never wear out and you ran refurbish and update these for a fraction of their real cost. Case in point is the M109 which served in Vietnam and is still economically repairable and updateable.
But the real concern is, what if we have another war and these vehicles will need six month plus to get back in the supply line. Obama is doing the same thing Carter did and that is to gut the military which only endangers our men and women in uniform!

Editorial: M1 tanks? No thanks Sunday, May 5, 2013

The addiction to pork in Washington is coming in 70-ton servings — the M1 Abrams tanks the U.S. Army says it can't stomach but Congress keeps serving. This is bipartisan spending run amok to preserve jobs back home, and it reflects what is wrong with a Congress that talks tough on reducing the fiscal deficit but wastes taxpayer money on military equipment the Army doesn't even want.

The Army wants to stop the ongoing refurbishing of Abrams tanks, which would largely idle a General Dynamics plant in Ohio until 2017 and save roughly $3 billion. After the Pentagon first announced its plan two years ago, the company estimated more than 500 subcontractors employing up to 18,000 people could be affected.

The predictable pushback from Congress came amid aggressive lobbying and campaign contributions from General Dynamics' employees and political action committees, according to the Center for Public Integrity. As the donations rolled in, Congress reauthorized the tank spending in fiscal year 2012, and last year 173 Democratic and Republican House members signed a letter urging the Defense Department to continue tank production to "preserve the industrial base.''

The Army has 2,300 of the M1 Abrams tanks deployed and 3,000 more sitting idle at a military base in California. The Army has said its needs for a 2,384-tank fleet can be met by the end of this year, but Congress wants to spend $436 million to keep refurbishing additional tanks despite the military's objections. Never mind that the Pentagon must absorb $42 billion in sequester cuts by September and cut $487 billion over the next decade. This is another waste of public money just when the pressure to cut spending is increasing.

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/ed...
denise

Jamesville, NY

#156430 May 21, 2013
Rude ppl

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#156432 May 21, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
I do give Daddy Bush credit for Iraq war One.
90% of the cost was paid by the Arabs, Germans, Japanese, and Daddy Bush had most of the whole world with the USA.
Dumbya Junior Bush did the exact opposite of his father.
Bush and Cheney stuck the American taxpayer with the WAR BILL.
==========
Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6BEsZMvrq-IXX
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
http://tinyurl.com/ymngms
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Well, how much war debt has Obama wrung up in the past four years? He did promise to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and close GITMO within ONE YEAR, did he not?!?
How much money has Obama wasted on "Green" energy?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156433 May 21, 2013
Looks like Rogue's and Communist Lady's prayers paid off. Death toll revised to 24 instead of close to 80 previously announced. Thanks to these prayers, over 50 have come back to life.

Seriously, now, this is a tragedy, even if there was only one death. 24 is horrible. And where, oh where are those poor families whose homes have been levelled going to live now and in the immediate future? But to have right-wing holier-than-thou religious hypocrites like Rogue and Commie Lady offer their prayers to those poor people is like offering pork to a practicing Jew or Moslem.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156434 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
My father use to say that you could tell who were the real Christians as they left the church and drove out of the parking lot! But I believe anyone who keeps his faith, whether a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc., would respect all. And would take only what he needed,,,,,, not all that he wanted!
Your father could judge church-going parishioners by the way they drove out of the parking lot? Do you have any other idiocies to post here today, Rogue?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156435 May 21, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Bill Clinton's tawdry extra-marital affairs were a devastating side-effect for Al Gore's election bid.
And Gore's inability to speak in anything other than choppy sentences was not an asset to him or the country either. He couldn't even carry Tennessee.
He's nearly as stiff as John Kerry.
As usual, and except for Gore not carrying Tenn, you're wrong on every count.

Gore made the huge mistake of not using Clinton in his campaign because he feared the after-effects of the Lewinski affair. Gore failed to realise that Clinton was still hugely popular among the electorate and, hey, would've been re-elected in a landslide had he been entitled to a 3rd term. Gore did use Clinton in the last days of the campaign and I assume, had he not, the Supreme court would hot have had to rule in GWB's favour, he would've won it outright. Gore's mistake.

As to Gore's choppy sentences, I agree, not the greatest speaker, which is why he needed to used Clinton's oratorical skills, as Obama shrewdly did -- twice. But, what gall you have criticizing Gore's "choppy sentences" and saying nothing on GWB's speaking abilities? History will have a hard time determining whom of those two was the worst speaker, but one thing for sure, it'll have no problem deciding who was the most knowledgeable and smartest.

Oh, please comment on both Romney and Ryan, pres and vice-pres candidates. who did not carry their own states. Why, vote was not even close, specially in Romney's home state of Mass where he was supposedly so loved. Even Gore was not that slaughtered.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156436 May 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, still whining after 23 years. You need to get a life!
You are whining about Carter after 33 years. Even blamed the mortgage meltdown of 30 years later on him.

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