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#156189 May 18, 2013
Oh, what did evil mankind do to cause the Little Ice Age? What can we do to stop the next one? You should feel free to make as much CO2 as you want to!

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#156190 May 18, 2013
It should be noted that Boulder, Co's NCIDC has stopped recording Antarctic ice conditions in 2006. WHY? Because the Antarctic has been gaining ice mass and now has more ice mass than has EVER been document!!!

LITTLE ICE AGE: STARTED IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE?

Date: 07/09/12
That the Little Ice Age (LIA)– a cooling centred on the 17th Century – took place is beyond doubt. What is questioned however is its spatial extent and its cause. Reading the last document produced by the IPCC on the subject of the LIA one is left in no doubt that it thinks it was a mainly European event.

It states: Evidence from mountain glaciers does suggest increased glaciation in a number of widely spread regions outside Europe prior to the 20th century, including Alaska, New Zealand and Patagonia. However, the timing of maximum glacial advances in these regions differs considerably, suggesting that they may represent largely independent regional climate changes, not a globally-synchronous increased glaciation … hemispherically, the “Little Ice Age” can only be considered as a modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during this period of less than 1deg C relative to late 20th century levels.

I note that 1 deg C is a “modest cooling” in this context and that such a description is seldom used to describe the smaller amount of recent warming seen in the instrumental global temperature record. Also note that the most used reference of the strong regional variations in the timing, magnitude and character of the LIA is Jones and Mann 2004. So it is that the LIA is typically considered to be a Northern Hemisphere climate phenomenon characterised by alpine glacial advances and relatively cool temperatures observed between 15th to mid-19th centuries. There are signs however that the IPCC will have to reevaluate its stance on the extent of the LIA.

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#156191 May 18, 2013
The cause of the LIA has been the subject of much debate, with explanations ranging from increased volcanism, reduced solar irradiance and ocean circulation changes. Paleoclimate records suggest that the LIA is the most recent cooling event of a series that punctuated the Holocene. Such apparent oscillatory behavior in Holocene climate has led to speculation about what role the thermohaline circulation of the world’s oceans may have played in instigating or amplifying these climate changes. No consensus has been reached on this issue and a key concern is the spatial bias toward Northern Hemisphere proxy and meteorological records. An important tool to understand the LIA must therefore be the acquisition and interpretation of Southern Hemisphere paleoclimate records, but few are currently available.

Some years ago scientists compared studies of West Antarctic ice cores to the Greenland Ice Sheet Project suggesting a synchronous global Little Ice Age. An ocean sediment core from the Bransfield Basin in the Antarctic Peninsula displays centennial events that the researchers attributed to the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period (MWP) noting “other unexplained climatic events comparable in duration and amplitude to the LIA and MWP events also appear.” The Siple Dome in Antarctica also shows a climate episode whose start is coincident with that of the LIA in the North Atlantic. The Siple Dome ice core also contains its highest rate of melt layers between 1550 and 1700, due to it has been suggested to warm summers during the LIA.

An impressive new paper and Ph.D thesis by Rachael Rhodes formerly of the Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand looks at the Little Ice Age climate and oceanic conditions of the Ross Sea, Antarctica from a coastal ice core record.

Antarctic ice cores are valuable archives of past climate and only recently have been obtained with adequate temporal resolution to investigate any traces of the LIA in Antarctica. They are beginning to suggest that Antarctica did experience the LIA. If this is the case then the LIA cannot be due to fluctuations in the thermohaline circulation of the world’s oceans.

Rhodes at al 2012 obtained subannual glaciochemical records from a coastal ice core at a place called the Mount Erebus Saddle (MES) in the south-western Ross Sea. The portion of the LIA captured in the MES ice core (1446-1850 AD) shows enhanced lithophile (microorganisms that can live in tiny cracks and pores in rocks) element concentrations and a rapid decrease in lithophile element concentrations between 1848 and 1850 AD – the end of the LIA. The MES stable isotope record suggests that the Ross Sea region experienced 1.6 ± 1.4 deg C cooler average temperatures during the LIA in comparison to the last 150 yr.

The ice core record currently dates back to 1446 AD but curiously there is no sign that the onset of the LIA is captured. Rhodes points out that a frequently cited date for the onset of the LIA in the Northern Hemisphere is 1450 AD but estimates vary.

In addition recent research from the Antarctic Dry Valleys suggest that the onset of the LIA was actually earlier in the Southern Hemisphere. If verified such findings could stand our ideas about the LIA on its head.

Feedback: david.whitehouse@thegwpf.org

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156192 May 18, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, thank you for admitting that Dr. Hansen and Dr, Mann have not ruled out the Sun in Climate Change (cooling or warming)!
You do know that Solar Cycle #19, late 1950s through mid-1960s, was the hottest solar cycle ever recorded and that Solar Cycles #19-23, 1955-2000, where the hottest group ever recorded but, in your opinion had not affect in the Global Warming of the last-half of the 20th Century!!!
And you somehow think that because CO2 is now up to 0.0004% of our atmospheric gases that it is the ONLY cause of warming during that period. You do know that oxygen makes up almost 21% of our air and compared to CO2 there is over 5,000 times as much oxygen than there is CO2, don't you?!?
I'm sorry, but your declaration that NHC agrees with Bill Gray is not supported. Hansen or Mann, or whoever the F you want to go off on a tangent on, notwithstanding.

Capisce?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for admitting that the NHC has not stated that they believe in Bill Gray's contrarian and non-scientific opinions on global climate change.

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#156193 May 18, 2013
This from Down Under. AH, Dr. James Hansen said WHAT???

CLIMATE: Emissions debate heats up while experts warn of a coming ice age BY:GRAHAM LLOYD, ENVIRONMENT EDITOR From: The Australian May 04, 2013

ON the northern tip of Taiwan, scientists are monitoring the alarming rise in industrial emissions blowing across the narrow strait from mainland China.

It is not just carbon dioxide that matters: secondary aerosols like dust and sulphate play a big role in shaping global temperature - as well as ocean and human health.

Aerosol-cloud interaction remains one of the biggest unknowns but what is known is that not all aerosols warm the planet; some cool it, balancing the impact of carbon dioxide emissions, at least temporarily.

NASA scientist James Hansen says increased emissions from Chinese coal-fired power stations have been responsible for lower than predicted global warming over the past 10 years.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affa...

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#156194 May 18, 2013
Little Ice Age Coming in 2014 by ROBERT on MAY 18, 2013

Geophysicist says the mini ice age will start within a few years and will last 60-80 years.

7 March 2013 – The Little Ice Age should be the story of the century, yet it’s only being announced quietly by climate scientists and solar physicists. Not a word is being mentioned by the mainstream media, who had a hand in selling the Global Warming propaganda that has become irrelevant as we slide into colder climate.

US solar scientists have announced years ago that the sun appears to be headed into a lengthly spell of low activity, which means that the Earth is far from facing a Global Warming catastrophe and actually headed into a Little Ice Age.

According to geophysicist Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera at the University of Mexico, in about 5 years the “Earth will enter a “Little Ice Age” which will last from 60 to 80 years and may be caused by the decrease in solar activity.”

The geophysicist slammed the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), saying their stand on global warming “is incorrect because only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity”.

http://iceagenow.info/2013/05/ice-age-coming-...

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#156195 May 18, 2013
It seems Dr. Hansen has been giving a speech every days lately trying to defend his Global Warming theory. It sounds like he is getting worried!!!

UN scientists laughing at Hansen! UN IPCC Lead Author Dr. Richard Tol Mocks NASA’s retired James Hansen’s really bad spin:‘Global warming has not stalled, insists world’s best-known climate scientist —[It] has stalled, insist his data’

https://twitter.com/RichardTol/status/3353852...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156196 May 18, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, thank you for admitting that Dr. Hansen and Dr, Mann have not ruled out the Sun in Climate Change (cooling or warming)!
You do know that Solar Cycle #19, late 1950s through mid-1960s, was the hottest solar cycle ever recorded and that Solar Cycles #19-23, 1955-2000, where the hottest group ever recorded but, in your opinion had not affect in the Global Warming of the last-half of the 20th Century!!!
And you somehow think that because CO2 is now up to 0.0004% of our atmospheric gases that it is the ONLY cause of warming during that period. You do know that oxygen makes up almost 21% of our air and compared to CO2 there is over 5,000 times as much oxygen than there is CO2, don't you?!?
Bullshit Straw Man: "And you somehow think that because CO2 is now up to 0.0004% of our atmospheric gases that it is the ONLY cause of warming during that period."

Neither Dr. Hansen nor Dr, Mann, nor any another reputable climatologist has made such a statement. UR simply FOS.

If you wish to dispute the vast majority of climate scientists, you must dispute what they have said, not what you wish they said.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for admitting that the NHC has not stated that they believe in Bill Gray's contrarian and non-scientific opinions on global climate change.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156198 May 18, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummmm, and Conservatives are for MINIMAL government whereas Progressives are for GOVERNMENT Control of Government (Fascism).
Conservatives want free press even though they align themselves with the far left.
Yep, and socialists hate personal freedoms and rights and identify people who enjoy freedom to be enemies of the state.
Nazis where National Socialism as was the Fascist who are also Socialists. And Conservatives are not sexist but socialists in Nazi Germany put gays and religious dissidents in concentration camps.
Yep, and Soviet Russia, Communist China and North Vietnam, etc. are all military nationalists.
Conservatives do not want government to tell people how to worship whereas socialists want to tell religions how to teach their people.
Conservatives want minimal government control of business whereas socialists want to control all aspects of business and communists want to own all businesses!
And socialist want to control labor too through wage and price controls.
And Conservatives do not have disdain for the arts or intellectuals. Just people who think they have the right how to think and what art they should pay for!
And - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections: Obama, Obama and Obama!!!
For some reason Libtards think that Fascists (to include Nazis) are not socialists which is blatantly untrue. Fascists believe they have the right to tell businesses and people what to do where as communists want to own everything.
Yes, Virginia, Fascists are progressives/socialists!!!~
Your lack of understanding is second to none, well maybe on an equal plane with Communist Lady, LRS, Frank, Justice ha ha Dale. Fascists/Nazis, with "socialist" in their title, were no more socialist than The Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is democratic and for the people. You have a skewed and ignorant perception of the word "socialist" . GWB's greatest ally was Tony Blair, socialist. Helmut Schmidt, very successful chancellor of Germany, was Socialist, as was Willie Brandt. David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir were socialists. Indira Gandhi was socialist. Hit some serious reading now and then, Rogue, nothing to lose.

You see, you repeat the following phrase in front of intelligent people : "Yes, Virginia, Fascists are progressives/socialists!!!~ " and you'll either be laughed out of the room or institutionalized.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156199 May 18, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
It should be noted that Boulder, Co's NCIDC has stopped recording Antarctic ice conditions in 2006. WHY? Because the Antarctic has been gaining ice mass and now has more ice mass than has EVER been document!!!
How would you know?

Boulder NSIDC is the only organization recording Antarctic ice conditions?

Grow up!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156200 May 18, 2013
Rogue Bullshitter wrote:
It should be noted that Boulder, Co's NCIDC has stopped recording Antarctic ice conditions in 2006. WHY? Because the Antarctic has been gaining ice mass and now has more ice mass than has EVER been document!!!
UR full of it.

http://nsidc.org/research/projects.html

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156201 May 18, 2013
No expert on climate change am I, so I rely on the experts to keep me posted. These three links are for the Arctic alone. I'll get the Antarctic ones later. If the links don't "click", well, you have the titles and a summary. Should be easy to find.


Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with ...

nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/&#8206 ;

May 2, 2013 – Read scientific analysis on Arctic sea ice conditions.... 2012 to 2013 is shown in blue, 2011 to 2012 in green, 2010 to 2011 in pink, 2009 to ...
Charctic Interactive Sea Ice ...- Map of the Arctic Ocean - Analysis - About the data

Arctic sea ice near record lows - National Snow and Ice Data Center

nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2011/09/arctic-sea... ;

Sep 6, 2011 – Arctic sea ice extent averaged for August 2011 reached the second ... dots shows 2011, and other colors show ice conditions in different years.

Annual maximum ice extent reached | Arctic Sea Ice News and ...

nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2011/03/annual-max... ;

Mar 23, 2011 –—Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center High-resolution image. Overview of conditions. On March 7, 2011, Arctic sea ice likely reached its ...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#156202 May 18, 2013
Ye, very embarrassing. I don't get it. Help.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156203 May 18, 2013
The Antarctic Glaciological Data Center: Continued Data Collection and Management for Antarctic Glaciology

http://nsidc.org/research/projects/Scambos_AG...

Rouge lives in a dream world.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#156205 May 18, 2013
Terry Anderson was a Los Angeles based radio host who liked to tell the people if you're not mad, you're not paying attention! Sadly this is one of those good voices of telling it like it is that we lost too early, Terry passed away in 2010. The one thing that I will remember him for is his "not exactly" list that was put out in 2008 exposing all of Obama's lies. He was a voice of truth! If you have never read this list, I have attached the link where you can read Terry's 39 things that he found to be inaccurate claims from the then senator Obama. Once a liar always a liar!-MD
http://rense.com/general83/lah.htm

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#156206 May 18, 2013
Clintons Knew Obama Ineligible & DNC Primary Fraud - Claims Hollywood Producer


I've always believed this. The Clintons may be corrupt but they are not fools.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#156207 May 18, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Clintons Knew Obama Ineligible & DNC Primary Fraud - Claims Hollywood Producer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KWGCuxQIZjsXX
I've always believed this. The Clintons may be corrupt but they are not fools.
Who cares what you believe?

"Hollywood producer"!! Oh My!

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#156208 May 18, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
Wake Up And Smell The Coffee.
Forthwith.
Agree, care if I use this?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#156209 May 18, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The cause of the LIA has been the subject of much debate, with explanations ranging from increased volcanism, reduced solar irradiance and ocean circulation changes. Paleoclimate records suggest that the LIA is the most recent cooling event of a series that punctuated the Holocene. Such apparent oscillatory behavior in Holocene climate has led to speculation about what role the thermohaline circulation of the world’s oceans may have played in instigating or amplifying these climate changes. No consensus has been reached on this issue and a key concern is the spatial bias toward Northern Hemisphere proxy and meteorological records. An important tool to understand the LIA must therefore be the acquisition and interpretation of Southern Hemisphere paleoclimate records, but few are currently available.
Some years ago scientists compared studies of West Antarctic ice cores to the Greenland Ice Sheet Project suggesting a synchronous global Little Ice Age. An ocean sediment core from the Bransfield Basin in the Antarctic Peninsula displays centennial events that the researchers attributed to the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period (MWP) noting “other unexplained climatic events comparable in duration and amplitude to the LIA and MWP events also appear.” The Siple Dome in Antarctica also shows a climate episode whose start is coincident with that of the LIA in the North Atlantic. The Siple Dome ice core also contains its highest rate of melt layers between 1550 and 1700, due to it has been suggested to warm summers during the LIA.
An impressive new paper and Ph.D thesis by Rachael Rhodes formerly of the Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand looks at the Little Ice Age climate and oceanic conditions of the Ross Sea, Antarctica from a coastal ice core record.
Antarctic ice cores are valuable archives of past climate and only recently have been obtained with adequate temporal resolution to investigate any traces of the LIA in Antarctica. They are beginning to suggest that Antarctica did experience the LIA. If this is the case then the LIA cannot be due to fluctuations in the thermohaline circulation of the world’s oceans.
Rhodes at al 2012 obtained subannual glaciochemical records from a coastal ice core at a place called the Mount Erebus Saddle (MES) in the south-western Ross Sea. The portion of the LIA captured in the MES ice core (1446-1850 AD) shows enhanced lithophile (microorganisms that can live in tiny cracks and pores in rocks) element concentrations and a rapid decrease in lithophile element concentrations between 1848 and 1850 AD – the end of the LIA. The MES stable isotope record suggests that the Ross Sea region experienced 1.6 ± 1.4 deg C cooler average temperatures during the LIA in comparison to the last 150 yr.
The ice core record currently dates back to 1446 AD but curiously there is no sign that the onset of the LIA is captured. Rhodes points out that a frequently cited date for the onset of the LIA in the Northern Hemisphere is 1450 AD but estimates vary.
In addition recent research from the Antarctic Dry Valleys suggest that the onset of the LIA was actually earlier in the Southern Hemisphere. If verified such findings could stand our ideas about the LIA on its head.
Feedback: david.whitehouse@thegwpf.org
What's your point, genius?

"If this is the case then the LIA cannot be due to fluctuations in the thermohaline circulation of the world’s oceans."

If this is the case then your hero Gray is FOS.

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#156210 May 18, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The birther quoted the personal opinion of Bingham, and then I showed that he had changed that opinion, and I added another opinion.
As for a Supreme Court ruling, well, that ALSO shows that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth. Here is the key ruling, the ruling in the Wong Kim Ark case (which, btw, was AFTER Minor v. Happersett):
Wong was ruled to be a "Citizen" nothing more.

"The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States."- United States v. Wong Kim Ark

"Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.""- The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

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