BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151799 Apr 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you , Rogue. The poll was indeed flawed. It was not 92%, it was only 90%.Oh well.
A background check will take guns away and therefore violates your constitutiional rights? How so? How will it take guns away from their rightful and lawful owners? Explain that, please and then explain how NOT letting unqualified persons buy guns also violates anyone's constitutional rights? And please also explain the militia you belong to, Rogue, yes, the militia mentioned in the 2nd amendment you are forever referring to.
We already have background checks. Gee, I wonder why the percentage is so high? Hands off our guns! That is a warning.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151800 Apr 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Who can tell us what is wrong with the above story? This is a contest. Winner gets one free night with Rogue, 2nd place gets TWO free nights , 3rd place, you get the idea. Oh, you don't? 3rd prize gets 3 free nights with Rogue. Birthers all confused now. Oh well, LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
That Rogue has to put up with the Hindu in the first place? Just a guess.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151801 Apr 19, 2013
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you tell us something that we don't know already?
Sure:

First, some questions: What are the odds that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about Obama's birth certificate? Officials of BOTH parties, including the former Republican governor of Hawaii, have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and long form birth certificates to Hawaii and that the facts are accurate on them.

What are the odds that somehow Obama in 2007, when the short form birth certificate was sent to him, was able to convince a clerk in Hawaii to lie and send a birth certificate that said on it that he was born in Hawaii, when---according to birthers---there was nothing in Obama's file?

Obama did receive a short form birth certificate from Hawaii in 1987, and it says on it that Obama was born in Honolulu. Clerks only fill in the forms that generate birth certificates from the documents in the file. So there must be a document in the file and it must say "born in Hawaii"---or else Obama in 2007 (when he was only a junior senator from Illinois) got the clerk to lie.

How likely is that to happen? What are the odds against it happening? About a million to one--or more?

How likely was it that Obama's mother even traveled outside of Hawaii in 1961. There has never been any evidence shown that she even had a passport. And, Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country. And, Obama's American grandparents were certainly not rich (the grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was just a low-level employee in a bank at the time). And, WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama's father stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961----so, if Obama's mother had traveled outside of the USA, she would have had to have traveled ALONE. How likely is that? What are the odds against it. About a million to one---or more?

So, what are the odds against---a million times a million---about 10 billion against it happening.

Yet birthers insist that there is a realistic chance that it happened, that Obama was really born outside of the USA. Why? Because, the original claim was that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. But, it turns out that she didn't say that at all; birther sites simply made it up. The full transcript of the taped call is available for anyone who wants to see it. If you do, just ask, and I will post it.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151802 Apr 19, 2013
Continuing:

So Obama's Kenyan grandmother did not say that he was born in Kenya, and the Kenyan government says that it investigated and that Obama was certainly not born there, and only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and of them only one came by air (and if Obama's mother was that one, it would have had to have been by air because of the dates when she was attending college and when she had to start college again). So what are the odds that Obama was born in Kenya? About a million to one against?

Yes, Obama's publicist did make a mistake and say that Obama was born in Kenya. That's where the "born in Kenya" story comes from. But it was a mistake; it is not true; it cannot be true considering that the officials in Kenya say that he was not born there and the officials in Hawaii say that he was born there. So, how does the mistake affect the question of where Obama was born? Answer, it doesn't.

Still think there is a chance that Obama was born in a foreign country? Well, if so, then answer this: If he was, how did he get from that country to the USA? You know that children cannot just be carried into the country; they require travel documents---such as being entered on their mother's US passport. So, if Obama had been born in Kenya---or any other country---he would have had to have been entered on his mother's US passport at a US consulate or embassy in that country. And there would be multiple records of that happening. Not merely the passport file, but the record of applications for changes to the passport, and those file would still exist. And, if they existed, they would have been found back during the Bush Administration, which was in charge of all of those files when it was in charge of the US State Department.

And yet no such file has ever been made public. Why not? Well either the Bush Administration was in on the plot, or there is no such file, and the latter is vastly more likely, isn't it?

So, what are the odds that Obama's mother traveled outside of the USA when she was pregnant at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth (the incidence of which was high at the time)? What are the odds that somehow she was able to get Obama back from a foreign country without any record of an application to add him to her passport? What are the odds that if all that happened, she was able to get a birth certificate into the files in Hawaii that says on it that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, or that the officials of both parties (including the former Republican governor of Hawaii) are lying about all that today?

Perhaps all the officials in Hawaii ARE lying. But isn't it more likely that the birthers are lying? After all, they did lie when they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that Obama was born in Kenya. And they did lie when they said that the current governor of Hawaii, Abercrombie, said that he could not find Obama's birth certificate.(He never said any such thing.) And they were lying when Obama's lawyer "admitted" that his birth certificate was forged.(She never said any such thing either.) And they were lying when they said that Hawaii Registrar of Births Onaka "admitted" the birth certificate was forged.(He never said any such thing either.)

The bottom line is that the birth certificate of Hawaii says that he was born in Hawaii, and that is confirmed by the officials and the public Index Data file (want to see it? just ask) and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the newspapers). And there is not a shred of proof that Obama was born anywhere else than in Hawaii, and such a trip for his pregnant mother would have been HIGHLY unlikely.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151804 Apr 19, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>That Rogue has to put up with the Hindu in the first place? Just a guess.
Gee. Romper tosses out a bigoted comment - will the surprises never end?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#151805 Apr 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, Patriot ha ha warrior Un=American er hmm Pravda lady, ever thought of asking where the cop shooter got his gun? Ever crossed your mind how he was able to get his hands on that weapon? And ever thought of expressing your grief for that poor deceased police officer?
Ya know, instead of debating the issues, you attack the messenger. And what is sad is you think that just because you disagree with us, we are unpatriotic!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#151806 Apr 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
the above almost made me swallow my tongue. Pathetic, soooo pathetic. I've heard loving mothers speak less kindly of their babies than Rogue of his guns. His penis guns.
And you think I have a hang up about penises while I think you suffer from penis envy!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#151807 Apr 19, 2013
Oh wow, a poll posted by Looney-Lefty Huffington Post and done by Looney-Left CBS News and the NYT, why it must be true!!!

Gun Poll: Background Checks Supported By 92% Of Americans / The Huffington Post | By Ariel Edwards-Levy : 01/17/2013

Universal background checks on gun buyers are favored by 92 percent of Americans, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll released Thursday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gun-...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#151808 Apr 19, 2013
Tell us Jacques, just how will expanding background checks for buy guns prevent criminals and crazy people from obtaining guns?
Remember, it was LBJ and Jimmy Carter who left the crazy people out of the mental hospitals!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151809 Apr 19, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee. Romper tosses out a bigoted comment - will the surprises never end?
Everything is a surprise to you, grasshopper!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151810 Apr 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh wow, a poll posted by Looney-Lefty Huffington Post and done by Looney-Left CBS News and the NYT, why it must be true!!!

Gun Poll: Background Checks Supported By 92% Of Americans / The Huffington Post | By Ariel Edwards-Levy : 01/17/2013

Universal background checks on gun buyers are favored by 92 percent of Americans, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll released Thursday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gun-...
The FauxNews poll says it is only 85%. Much more credible

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#151811 Apr 19, 2013
Things the pollsters do not tell you about what is really going to happen. Tell us, do you understand ObamaCare?

UNTANGLING THE SPIN: POLLING ON BACKGROUND CHECKS HIGHLY MISLEADING / DAN HOLLER | APRIL 16, 2013

Throughout the ongoing gun control debate, polls citing overwhelming support for expanded background checks have been the norm. Today’s ABC News/Washington Post poll was no different:

With a vote on gun control measures pending, 86 percent support extending background checks to gun sales at gun shows and online.… Notably, though, even among gun owners and those who think guns make a home safer, 86 and 82 percent, respectively, support expanded background checks.

Sounds convincing, doesn’t it?

President Obama sure thinks so. Last week, he urged Americans to “find out where your member of Congress stands on this. If they’re not part of the 90 percent of Americans who agree on background checks, then ask them, why not?”

The real question is what do YOU mean by “background checks” Mr. President?

Are 90 percent of Americans really in favor of requiring a background check to borrow a friend’s hunting rifle? In the original Reid bill (which was the pending bill when Pres. Obama issued his call to action), borrowing a friend’s hunting rifle without a background check would be a felony.

Are 90 percent of Americans really in favor of requiring a background check to buy a firearm advertised on the local church bulletin board? The Schumer-Toomy-Manchin Amendment would require such a check.

Are 90 percent of Americans really in favor of requiring a background check if it cost law-abiding gun owners $125? According to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), the Schumer-Toomey-Manchin Amendment would “charge a $30 to $50 and up to a $125 fee, creating a new de facto tax on guns.”

Are 90 percent of Americans really in favor of expanded background checks if it weakens mental health privacy laws? According to Heritage, the Schumer-Toomey-Manchin Amendment “reduces existing privacy protection for mental health records relevant to background checks.”

These are the questions the polls do not ask, but these are the questions that matter to law-abiding Americans. And on the questions that matter, 90 percent isn’t 90 percent.
http://heritageaction.com/2013/04/untangling-...
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#151812 Apr 19, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
No substance. No attempt to defend your fable. What a worthless piece of trash.
My country has declared that Obama (and ALL children born here) are Natural Born Citizens
Your pathetic fables have no impact
Being a natural born American citizen doesn't make
them Americans if they are raised by foreigners
who teach them to hate.
An American is pure and Godly.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151814 Apr 19, 2013
Halt all immigration!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151817 Apr 19, 2013
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very clear that are one dumb person who is addicted to Obama ASS-CRACK, Poopoo stain.
Even rational people who do not like Obama accept the fact that he was born in Hawaii and that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#151820 Apr 19, 2013
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
That 90% figure is a Democrat and Obama delusion, Poopoo stain!
Hell, he couldn't get but 54% of a Democratically controlled Senate to vote for it!
Only 4% of those polled believed it was a top issue.
Your addiction to that Obama ASS-CRACK is apparent!
tell me in why 54% voting yes doesn't something pass in a truly democratic system

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#151821 Apr 19, 2013
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
That 90% figure is a Democrat and Obama delusion, Poopoo stain!
Hell, he couldn't get but 54% of a Democratically controlled Senate to vote for it!
Only 4% of those polled believed it was a top issue.
Your addiction to that Obama ASS-CRACK is apparent!
WASHINGTON -- Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association on Thursday, writing in a letter to NRA President David Keene, "I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable."

The resignation, first reported by KSDK, came a day after the Senate rejected a series of amendments to a gun control bill, including a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for gun sales. The NRA had vigorously opposed all those measures.

"The NRA I see today has undermined the values upon which it was established," wrote Busch. "Your current strategic focus clearly places priority on the needs of gun and ammunition manufacturers while disregarding the opinions of your 4 million individual members."

Reached for comment on Busch's resignation, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told The Huffington Post, "We disagree with his characterization, but we wish him all the best."

Busch joined the pro-gun organization in 1975 and has spoken before of his love of hunting. But the NRA has moved in a direction that Busch would not follow. "One only has to look at the makeup of the 75-member board of directors, dominated by manufacturing interests, to confirm my point. The NRA appears to have evolved into the lobby for gun and ammunition manufacturers rather than gun owners," he wrote.

Busch told Keene, "It disturbs me greatly to see this rigid new direction of the NRA." He singled out the gun lobby's reversal of its 1999 position in favor of universal background checks, as well as its opposition to an assault weapons ban and a ban on high-capacity magazines. "I am simply unable to comprehend how assault weapons and large capacity magazines have a role in your vision," he wrote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/adol...

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#151823 Apr 19, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
Lol the false flag Infowars idiots are here on topix making fools of themselves.
Alex Jones is a mental unbalanced whack job. He needs to be sent to a mental ward and any one who believes him also needs to be sent there also.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151827 Apr 19, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>Being a natural born American citizen doesn't make
them Americans if they are raised by foreigners
who teach them to hate.
An American is pure and Godly.
So you're saying Dufus Dale, Romper, and Tacky aren't Americans? I must respectfully disagree

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151831 Apr 19, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
That Rogue has to put up with the Hindu in the first place? Just a guess.
And you're a bigot and a racist. NOT guessing.

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