BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Now, just because someone says he is something, does not mean he is. An example is Mayor Michael Bloomberg who was a Democrat, ran as a Republican for mayor, and then switched to Independent.
But whatever party he claims to be apart of, he is a blooming idiot!
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I assume you were talking about Winston Churchill, Yes, Wiki does say that he was in the Conservative Party fro 1900 until 1904, then in the Liberal Party until 1924 and then back in the Conservative Party until 1964 but I dare say his politics were Conservative.
Just like JFK who was a Democrat but a moderate-Conservative and Nixon who was as Progressive as they came.
Our former Governor Charlie Christ was a Loony-lefty Republican, then ran for the Senate as an Independent and is now a Liberal Democrat.
But the fact is, the more Liberal you are, the more criminal you are because you can rationalize anything. Just look at Nixon. Other than being a Republican, you guys should have seen him as a progressive hero!
You assumed correctly, three cheers. DOH. Who else?

You, YOU render a political judgement on Churchill?

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Ah, just found this from 2011. See Jacques, I can be fair and balanced. Sooo, is he a Republican or is he a Democrat?
Voters select six new officeholders during election January 5, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 2:51 pm, Wed Sep 26, 2012.
Loyd Cook
In Precinct 1, Eric Williams added another Republican to the slate of county officials, defeating longtime justice of the peace Johnny Perry, a Democrat, in the November general election.
Williams defeated the incumbent Democrat by a 2,274-1,523 final total.
http://www.kaufmanherald.com/news/article_f14 ...
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Thats right, who cares, who cares, YOU care if it is a TEA Partier or a Birther!!!
Why did ABC label the shooter at Aurora a TEA Partier without doing do diligence? Come on now, why did ABC jump to that conclusion!!! Hypocrite!!!
I wouldn't know, I don't work for ABC.

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Tell me Jacques, should these parents aborted this baby?
Father & Musical Son
I guarantee that this phenomenal young man will put you in a better frame of mind today!
And - what a father!
www.youtube.com/watch_popup...
You're a fool and a flaming hypocrite . I told you again the other day that except in extreme danger to the mother's life, or incestuous pregnancy or rape (being of the same pot, you would oot know what I mean) I am anti-abortion. But, the difference with you is I don't pretend to know, in that case, who is right and wrong and therefore respect other people's opinions.

Having said that, you question is, as usual , stupid. What about we show you videos of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot as babies in their mothers' arms? Would Ibe justified to ask if it would not have been better to abort them? Answer that one

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Yep, I'm SMEllen1, SHEEPLE!
Please explain.
The Saudi National was,
In close proximity to the explosion as evidenced by,
1. the shrapnel wounds on his body,
2. and burns from the explosion on his body,
3. and emanating the sulfur smell on gunpowder from his body,
4. and no valid reason for being where the explosion occurred.
Holla SHEEPLE!
Well, he could be an innocent bystander. The two suspects seemed to have gotten away without being injured.
Oh, most gunpowers do not contain sulfur as it is a corrosive. Black power, a Class B Explosive, is high in sulfur but is much harder to get than smokeless gunpowders which are Class C Explosives.
The reason why they used a pressure cooker is that Class C Explosive do not explode unless that are in a very tight container.
I have watched artillerymen burn unused gunpowder. There can be several hundred pounds of the stuff and then just line the bags in a long row, set them on fire. Now you don't want to be standing twenty feet away as it is like the sun. Twenty feet of gunpowder will burn in twenty seconds!!!
Now, if you dig a hole, but that same couple of hundred pound of bags of gunpowder in and then set the top on fire, you will need to get back a hundred yards!
This is what a flash fire of 270 pounds of gunpowder looks like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Oh, the tubes are loaded when the are horizontal and they are not raised until the breech is locked.

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Why is he being deported for reason of National Security and why the unscheduled meeting of Obama with the Saudi Foreign Minister?
Where'd you hear or read that? Sources please and make sure it's not WND.com
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First, you did not answer the question. How come the writers at the time and the US Supreme Court all say that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth when, according to your theory, it refers to parents. How come?
Then, the US Constitution NEVER says that two citizen parents are required. In fact, it does not say that even one citizen parent is required. It simply requires a Natural Born US Citizen, and the meaning of Natural Born came from the common law (not from Vattel) and referred to the place of birth.(If you claim that it comes from Vattel, then you have to give proof---and there isn't any. Yes, the writers of the Constitution did read Vattel, but they read a lot of other things too.)
The Constitution has the final say, and it DOES NOT say that two citizen parents are required. Nor does it say that the meaning of "jurisdiction" excludes foreigners or dual citizens. Yes the Constitution is short, but if it does not say something, we have to assume that it does NOT mean that thing, and it never says that the US born child of foreigners is a lower class of citizen or not eligible to become president. IF the writers of the US Constitution had wanted that to be the case, they would certainly have told us, and they didn't.
So, the courts and the US Supreme Court are right, and you are simply WRONG.
It refers to place of birth and being subject to the jurisdiction, thereof, the Constitution. It has been well established that to be subject to the jurisdiction, thereof, one can't be subject to any foreign power, just take the naturalized citizen, they do not get US Citizenship until they swear off their allegiance and citizenship to a foreign power/nation of which they were citizens.
At the minimal the father must be a US citizen, the head of the family, if no father then the mother.
The Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship, it will take an amendment for recognition.
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Answer: That was Howard's opinion, but it was not Bigham's opinion or Trumbull's opinion, and the final decision on whether the amendment followed Howard's opinion or that of Trumbull and many others was made in a six-to-two decision by the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case, and it ruled that EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US citizen.
Yes it was his opinion, he wrote the Citizenship Clause, which was accepted it in its entirety and became law in 1868 and not one mention of English common law was used in his writings.
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An almost carbon copy of LRS's looney tooney post. And yes, GWB did sneak out hundreds of Saudis in a no-fly US sky. Go figure.
LMAO! Wrong again jakeleg. I didn't post that. That memory issue is getting worse, isn't it?
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Fortunately, we have the highest possible authority on record to answer this question of how the term "jurisdiction" was to be interpreted and applied, the author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob M. Howard (MI) to tell us exactly what it means and its intended scope as he introduced it to the United States Senate in 1866:
Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127.
The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof (US Constitution), are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already (Civil Rights Act of 1866), that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction (US Constitution), is by virtue of natural law (Law of Nations) and national law (Civil Right Act of 1866) a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens(,) who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country (when the states made the citizens and had it all screwed up).
The above was ratified in 1868 and became Law of the Land.
They hate it when you point out the "comma"!
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That one is trademarked, Lol!
SMEllen1 one is being Clown-Stomped today!
Please send me a bill. That one is just too good not to use! LOL Smellen clownstomps herself.

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STFU QUEER!
Look it up yourself.
Start here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I didn't say, I asked. And you come up with FoxNews.com as a source? C"mon, give me a real source. I googled it, ALL crappy conservative anti and hating Obama sites. Not one single reliable source.
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Why is he being deported for reason of National Security and why the unscheduled meeting of Obama with the Saudi Foreign Minister?
Guess he had better connections than his buds!
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They hate it when you point out the "comma"!
Yep, I have been called every name in the book over that comma! LMAO!!!
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Someone is going home rather quickly it seems! I smell a rat.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-covering-up-sau...

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Someone is going home rather quickly it seems! I smell a rat.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-covering-up-sau...
This from Infowars.com . LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Just said I went to Google, the same you went to now. All conservative right-of-Hitler Obama/dem-hating sources. I said a reliable source. Is this the same source as the firebombing of the JFK library? Still waiting for a source on that.

Any minute, now, the fertilizer plant sad disaster will be a terrorist attack, with you , Rogue and KFC GB poining the finger at some Moslem who happened to be in West, Texas, a mile from the explosion. Any minute now.

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You assumed correctly, three cheers. DOH. Who else?
You, YOU render a political judgement on Churchill?
Sure, he f-ed up at Gallipoli!

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Fed now controls 1/3rd of Federal Budget???
Welfare Programs Now One-Sixth Of Federal Budget, same as Healthcare.
Federal welfare programs now account for one-sixth of the federal budget ($588 billion), a figure that does not even include unemployment benefits, Social Security, and Medicare, reports Bill Frezza of Forbes.
Since Obama entered the White House, family income has dropped 7%. But when corrected for inflation, it is ... about 14%. Isn't a drop of more than 10% a DEPRESSION?

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Our Labor Participation Rate is at it's lowest level since ..... Jimmy Carter was president. There are about SEVEN million more Americans who are unemployed than when Obama entered the White House and you Libtards think he has done a great job? Compared to whom? Herbert Hoover?!?
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This from Infowars.com . LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Just said I went to Google, the same you went to now. All conservative right-of-Hitler Obama/dem-hating sources. I said a reliable source. Is this the same source as the firebombing of the JFK library? Still waiting for a source on that.
Any minute, now, the fertilizer plant sad disaster will be a terrorist attack, with you , Rogue and KFC GB poining the finger at some Moslem who happened to be in West, Texas, a mile from the explosion. Any minute now.
Psst, I really don't care what you want. It is happening whether you choose to open your lids or not. squid

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I didn't say, I asked. And you come up with FoxNews.com as a source? C"mon, give me a real source. I googled it, ALL crappy conservative anti and hating Obama sites. Not one single reliable source.
Your so stupid you do not know why the chicken crossed the road. But I do. The chicken crossed the road to prove to the possums and raccoons it could be done safely!!!

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