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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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The FBI had set a press conference for 5pm EST yesterday afternoon but the event was cancelled hours after the photos were seen by millions of people online. The federal agency blamed the media for erroneous reporting, stating,“these stories often have unintended consequences.”
CNN also had to backtrack after they announced that a suspect had been arrested, a report that was subsequently denied by authorities. Reports of a “dark skinned man” being arrested were later mothballed.
According to terrorism expert Steve Emerson, 20-year-old Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, the Saudi national first suspected of being involved in Monday’s twin bomb attack, is being hastily deported. Alharbi was put under armed guard in hospital after the bombing, was visited by Saudi diplomat Azzam bin Abdel Karim, and later had his apartment raided by federal and state law enforcement agents.
“I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday, which is very unusual,” Emerson told Fox News last night.
The news follows an unscheduled meeting between President Obama and Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House yesterday afternoon.“The meeting was not on Obama’s public schedule,” reports Reuters.
As World Net Daily’s Joe Kovacs documents,“Saudi student Alharbi shares the same last name as a major Saudi clan that includes scores of al-Qaida operatives.”
The Alharbi clan has long been active in al-Qaida. Khaled bin Ouda bin Mohammed al-Harbi, for example, is a Saudi national who joined Osama bin Laden’s mujahadeen group in the 1980s. He reportedly became an al-Qaida member in the mid-1990s. He turned himself in to Saudi authorities in 2004 as part of an amnesty deal.
The BBC reported Khaled Alharbi was married to the daughter of al-Qaida’s number two, Ayman al-Zawahri. He reportedly appeared with bin Laden in a video praising the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Given the fact that the Obama administration has sent more than half a billion dollars and the CIA is shipping weapons to FSA rebels in Syria who pledged allegiance to and are led by Al-Qaeda militants, the notion that one of these militants would carry out an attack on U.S. soil would be extremely damaging to the White House.
Radio host Michael Savage floated the theory yesterday that the Boston police were told to cancel the press conference by the Obama administration and the FBI, because the Saudi Foreign Minister demanded that the suspect be allowed to leave the country.
The men are certainly not marathon runners and they are not involved in rescue efforts.
Should it emerge that the Obama administration is shielding accomplices in the Boston bombings for political reasons, the scandal would dwarf the Benghazi attacks and inevitably lead to impeachment proceedings.
Are you still laughing now, RETARD?
The above is all crap.

It is another example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers crazy.

It is entirely possible that a Saudi Arabian man who overstayed his visa will be deported, but there is no chance at all that so far there is evidence against this person and that they have not arrested him despite that fact (unless they are following him to find out whether he has accomplices).

When there is evidence, they will arrest someone---and that is regardless of what nationality she or he is.

The idea that the White House would have called the FBI (which is in charge of the operation) and told them to let someone go is completely nutty. One reason is that if the FBI were convinced that there was evidence against someone no matter what the White House said they would not let that person go.

Conspiracy theories should be at least a little rational. Just a tad. Just a little bit of rationality.

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See the name, this is what Topix and the SHEEPLE fear!
Truth Detector, yeah that is what they fear!
They don't fear the name, birfoon, they are disgusted with the filthy boorish profane sex-laden language. Not to mention you.
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Anyone ever heard of the FBI, ATF, DHS and LE from multiple counties showing up for an "alleged" home invasion? When the Feds got involved the media went silent! Not a word, not a peep. There's been absolutely no word on the missing young lady. Something reeks badly in this country and it's located in D.C. Oh, this occurred in TN!
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I smell a rat! Very strange behavior by the FBI,
The word to describe you is GULLIBLE. You believe an irrational story based on an unknown source.

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You poor SAP. Are you going to visit Mississippi in Louisiana anytime soon? LMAO!!! "More of your wet dreams"? That's what you wife says to you each morning! LMAO! squidink
Louisiana in Mississipi, eh? Well, at least it's the same country, and one next to the other.

How about your assertion, oft-repeated, that Canada is located in Europe, as a matter of fact, in France? Now there's a doozy.

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I smell a rat! Very strange behavior by the FBI,
Conpared to you, a rat smells Chanel Number 5.
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The above is all crap. It is another example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers crazy. It is entirely possible that a Saudi Arabian man who overstayed his visa will be deported, but there is no chance at all that there is evidence against this person. When there is evidence, they will arrest someone regardless of what nationality she or he is. The idea that the White House would have called the FBI (which is in charge of the operation) and told them to let someone go is completely nutty. One reason is that if the FBI were convinced that there was evidence against someone no matter what the White House said they would not let that person go.
Conspiracy theories should be at least a little rational.
Everyone knows that a beached whale is only good for a bunch of blubber. Or, in this case, blabber! LMAO! squidtoof Psst, Obumbler is a fake!

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Wonder why they shipped the Saudi out of here before one could spit? I smell a rat!
Frist things first. Ask GWB why he allowed those Saudi flights out of the USA shortly after 9/11 even though all non-military flights were prohibited. Oh, that happened shortly after a meeting with the Saudi Prince at the GWB Texas White House. Hmmm. I smell an LRS, LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Start with that, slug.
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They don't fear the name, birfoon, they are disgusted with the filthy boorish profane sex-laden language. Not to mention you.
Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Tsk Tsk. jakeleg is the King of Hatred! He breeds it and spreads it at will. He should be eliminated from the human race. He serves no purpose. Uncut filth!
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AK47^ You fire communist weapons^ Wow.
Sure can, they don't mind.
best election ever

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Wonder why they shipped the Saudi out of here before one could spit? I smell a rat!
wow tell Rush and Matt Drudge they will know what to do,
you are full of sh*t
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Everyone knows that a beached whale is only good for a bunch of blubber. Or, in this case, blabber! LMAO! squidtoof Psst, Obumbler is a fake!
Rational people will notice that the above statement does not discuss the facts.
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Only to IDIOT SHEEPLE like you who require no actual proof!
Somebody saying it is good enough for you, huh>
***News Flash***
Obama is NOT Black, a US Citizen, or Natural Born!
Wake up SHEEPLE, You are peeing your pants!
How was your trip to Boston? Explosive? A real pressure cooker? A pain in your heart? Pins and needle pain? Nailed it?
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Sicko. Dangerous. A massacre in-waiting.
Hahahaha!!! Look who is calling me a sicko.
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WE do NOT have reciprocal treaties with every country in the world. And yet, for your nutty theory to hold, we would have to. There would have to be treaties with Tonga and Zaire and Mongolia and Azerbaijan so that their citizens when visiting could be tried by US courts---because that is what "subject to the jurisdiction" means. But there are no such treaties, and yet the tourists from those countries are subject to US law, subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
This court ruling is right; you are wrong:
Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999)(children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):
“Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.”
This court ruling is right; you are wrong:
Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983)(child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):
“Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time.*** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.”
This court ruling is right; you are wrong:
Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974)(child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):
“The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”
This court ruling is right; you are wrong:
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:“Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency..."
This court ruling is right; you are wrong:
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling:“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
This Supreme Court court ruling is right; you are wrong:
"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established." (United States v. Wong Kim Ark). Notice EVERY child, and that the same rule applied in England, and in the colonies and in the early states AND UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
We have 12,000+ treaties. The remainder of your post has been answered many times over, but I do like to see you scamper for a rebuttal!!! LMAO!!!
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Louisiana in Mississipi, eh? Well, at least it's the same country, and one next to the other.
How about your assertion, oft-repeated, that Canada is located in Europe, as a matter of fact, in France? Now there's a doozy.
Glad you brought that up. Put that post up, will ya? LMAO!

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Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Tsk Tsk. jakeleg is the King of Hatred! He breeds it and spreads it at will. He should be eliminated from the human race. He serves no purpose. Uncut filth!
More death threats from the boorish paper tiger. "If you can't outsmart 'em, shoot 'em, kill 'em. "
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Re: "Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, just a fact you must live with! LMAO!!! "
Answer: No question at all. He was born a citizen of his father's nation AND he was born a citizen of the country in which he was born, the USA. And his citizenship in the USA is not affected by his dual citizenship. Not at all. We simply ignore dual citizenship. JUST A FACT THAT YOU MUST LIVE WITH.
Thank you! Since Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, this means he was born subject to a foreign power and not eligible to be subject to the jurisdiction of the Constitution.
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<quoted text>We have 12,000+ treaties. The remainder of your post has been answered many times over, but I do like to see you scamper for a rebuttal!!! LMAO!!!
We do not have reciprocal treaties with every country in the world.

Every child born in the USA is a natural born citizen. This court ruling is right, and you are wrong:

Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999)(children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):

“Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.”

And this court ruling is right, and you are wrong:

Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983)(child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):

“Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time.*** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.”

And ditto for this ruling:

Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974)(child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):

“The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”

And the same for this:

Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling:“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

And ditto for this:

Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling:“It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”

And this:

Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:“Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency..."

And here are the words of the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case:

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It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."

They are right, and you are wrong.
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Conpared to you, a rat smells Chanel Number 5.
You would know all about the stinch of a rat, wouldn't ya? LMAO! Better setup some traps in that dumpster of yours! You don't have a clue what Chanel #5 even smells like! Poor SAP. LMAO @ jackinawad

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