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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151428 Apr 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, under Obama, Eric Holder will not prosecute any black person for any hate crime against a white person. You Libtards know that by siding with one racial groups against another, makes you a RACIST!!!
WE need RID of eric holder!

Ten Reasons to Impeach Eric Holder
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/frontpagemag-com...

Just FOUND this:
A Petition to FIRE eric holder!

Dear Fellow American:

I've just returned from the border between the United States and Mexico and I've never witnessed anything like the stinking, rotten level of murder, corruption, cover-up, and conspiracy confronting us today.

This conspiracy ignited two years ago when U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that your Second Amendment rights are to blame for the drug crimes and killings in Mexico.

Holder and other top-level Obama Administration figures -- even the President himself -- claimed that 90% of the guns used by violent drug cartels were coming from American gun dealers.

In short, they blamed our Second Amendment rights for the violence of the Mexican drug cartels.

But leaked U.S. State Department cables have exposed this as a bald-faced LIE.

These Obama Administration cables proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what the Mexican government already knew: That the drug cartels were getting guns -- along with fully-automatic weapons, grenade launchers, anti-personnel mines and other military hardware -- through Central America, NOT THE U.S.

https://www.nra.org/fireholder/Background.asp...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151429 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>All aliens are here under reciprocal agreements (treaties) between their countries and the US government, as to how they will be treated, but they are never subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.
This is what it takes to be subject to the Constitution, try getting an alien to comply.
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.[1]
Re: "All aliens are here under reciprocal agreements (treaties) between their countries and the US government, as to how they will be treated, but they are never subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution."

BALONEY. Complete and total baloney. We do not have reciprocal treaties with all of the 200 or so countries in the word, and yet every single citizen of those countries who visits the USA is subject to the laws of the USA. THAT is what "subject to the jurisdiction" means. Only foreign diplomats are not subject to our laws and hence are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA.

The oath of allegiance is only for foreigners who become US citizens by being naturalized. A child born on US soil does not have take the oath because, duh, she or he is NOT a foreigner but instead is a Natural Born US Citizen.

Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999)(children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):

“Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.”

Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983)(child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):

“Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time.*** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.”

Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974)(child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):

“The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”

Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:“Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency..."

THAT is what the courts have ruled, not your crazy definition of "jurisdiction."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151430 Apr 17, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
The only candidate they’ve ever had an interest in knowing anything about is Obama and ironically he’s the only one they know the most about, made up or otherwise. So obviously it’s not transparency they seek but confirmation of their delusion. Problem is they don’t know the difference.
EXCELLENT point.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151431 Apr 17, 2013
Re: "No, to be a citizen of the US you must be subject to the US Constitution and if you are born here and a citizen of another nation at the time of your birth, you do not receive citizenship of the US.
The US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship. "

No to be a citizen of the USA you simply have to be born on US soil and NOT be the child of a foreign diplomat. In some cases that creates dual citizenship, but as you say the US Constitution does not recognize dual citizenship so in terms of US law the citizenship in a foreign country is totally irrelevant. ONLY the US citizenship is recognized under US law.

EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is born subject to the USA and hence is a Natural Born US Citizen. THAT is what the courts have ruled in scores of cases; they do not believe your nutty theory.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151432 Apr 17, 2013
eric holder ...
America ...
DOWNHILL since he's been anywhere near DC!

*Was appointed U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia by President Bill Clinton

* Vetted the Clinton administration’s 176 last-minute pardons in January 2001

* Was deeply involved in Clinton's pardons of Marc Rich and the Puerto Rican FALN terrorists

* Condemned the Guantanamo Bay detention center as an “international embarrassment”

* Was appointed U.S. Attorney General by President Barack Obama

* Strong opponent of gun rights

* Sought to try islamic terrorists in civilian courts rather than in military tribunals

* Filed suit against several states that had passed laws designed to stem the flow of illegal immigration

* Opposes efforts to purge voter rolls of ineligible names, or to enact voter-ID laws

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individual...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151433 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
In blow to gun control backers, background check compromise falls 6 votes short
By Carrie Dann, Kelly O'Donnell and Kasie Hunt, NBC News
Despite an impassioned push by President Barack Obama and an emotional lobbying effort by the families of mass shooting victims, proponents of a compromise measure to expand gun background checks on Wednesday fell six votes short of passage in the Senate.
LOL!!!
So it is your contention, Justice ha ha Dale,that "families of mass shooting victims," are nothing but LOL!!!.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151434 Apr 17, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks JD!:)
I'm gonna "spread it around" ...
IF you haven't!
And you too, freedom-loving communists er hmm lady, think that "families of mass shooting victims," deserve a LoL. Bravo.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151435 Apr 17, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>STFU Queer!
Tacky, is that you?

LMAO

Btw. Saw that the envelope terrorist seems to be a Mississippi redneck So sorry for you - not a Mooslim ( strike one) AND your kin.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151436 Apr 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually enjoy these troll comments from you Libtards because it shows how worried you really are. Tell me, if someone is not worried, why would they bother to comment?
Thank you disgusted, you have validated my time on this forum.
People bother to comnment on sports, Homer Simpson, wrestling and yet none of that worries them.

Worried about what after 4 and a half years? It's Supreme court 9 to 0, courts 198 to 0, 535 congress to 0, all , ALL senior republicans to 0. You're even too lame to feel defeated.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151437 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>As I have stated before, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, then their children will be citizens of N. Korea, even if born in the US.

"Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship."
(Wong Kim Ark v. US, para 34)

Do I really have to get into the fact that Obama was born a citizen of his father's country of origin?
Duck and cover Dufus. Duck and cover. Your fable does not limit Korea to only children of Korean parents

Do I really have to get into the fact that Obama was born a citizen of the US?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#151438 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Ignored, nothing of substance.
You never have any substance - no need to announce it now
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151439 Apr 17, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "No, to be a citizen of the US you must be subject to the US Constitution and if you are born here and a citizen of another nation at the time of your birth, you do not receive citizenship of the US.
The US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship. "
No to be a citizen of the USA you simply have to be born on US soil and NOT be the child of a foreign diplomat. In some cases that creates dual citizenship, but as you say the US Constitution does not recognize dual citizenship so in terms of US law the citizenship in a foreign country is totally irrelevant. ONLY the US citizenship is recognized under US law.
EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is born subject to the USA and hence is a Natural Born US Citizen. THAT is what the courts have ruled in scores of cases; they do not believe your nutty theory.
Your lack of understanding of what you read is jaw-dropping! LMAO!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151440 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>This ranks right up there with Romney winning the election.
Have a gunshow this weekend, think I will buy some 30 round clips, great trading items.
Justice ha ha dale wrote : "This ranks right up there with Romney winning the election."

LMAO (LRS tm reg'd), I had a suspicion you really believed he won. Quickly, tell Rogue to put on his dancing shoes and start dancing in the streets, it's not too late. Oh, and remind crud LRS that "you can hear him coming". What a bunch of losers, make-believe ladies, idiots, oh how it must suck to be a birfoon buffoon birther .
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151441 Apr 17, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Tacky, is that you?
LMAO
Btw. Saw that the envelope terrorist seems to be a Mississippi redneck So sorry for you - not a Mooslim ( strike one) AND your kin.
So Cain't Learn Shyt, you think Shreveport, La. is in Mississippi? Why am I not surprised? LMAO!(LTR=Lunch Time Regurgitation) Now, go brush your tooth. Another poor SAP! squidfart

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151442 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>This ranks right up there with Romney winning the election.
Have a gunshow this weekend, think I will buy some 30 round clips, great trading items.
gunshow? Poor loser. Never heard of a rock concert, a good movie, theatre, a symphony, a baseball or basketball or hockey game, or soccer, or an opera, or Irish dances, or a conference or or...

Guns, eh? Ignoramus.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#151443 Apr 17, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Your lack of understanding of what you read is jaw-dropping! LMAO!
NO, it is you who has made a mistake on the meaning of the law. The courts have ALL ruled that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen.

For example: "Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling:“In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court.[Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009).… The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.… This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”

That was the case that the US Supreme Court turned down birther appeals on, meaning that the ruling of that court---and the other nine courts---stands. And, as you can see, that ruling said that children born within the United States are natural born citizens regardless of the citizenship of their parents.

YOU disagree. But you are not the authority on the law, the courts, and in particular the US Supreme Court, are the authorities, and they all have ruled that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.

THAT is the law. Your theory on what "subject to the jurisdiction" means is NOT the law.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151444 Apr 17, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>This ranks right up there with Romney winning the election.
Have a gunshow this weekend, think I will buy some 30 round clips, great trading items
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
More "power" to ya!:)
And all hail the Chief, President Romey. Justice ha ha Dale is now famous not just for make-believe law, but for make-believe president.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#151445 Apr 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Justice ha ha dale wrote : "This ranks right up there with Romney winning the election."
LMAO (LRS tm reg'd), I had a suspicion you really believed he won. Quickly, tell Rogue to put on his dancing shoes and start dancing in the streets, it's not too late. Oh, and remind crud LRS that "you can hear him coming". What a bunch of losers, make-believe ladies, idiots, oh how it must suck to be a birfoon buffoon birther .
Hiya Sparkles! Ya know if I had only two choices, turn into you or take a bullet in head, I'd gladly take the bullet! It would be the most honorable thing to do. LMAO! You poor SAP! squidboy

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151447 Apr 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, notice the sign is in French and the aircraft number starts with "C"! Yep, another drunken French pilot!
Drunk Helicopter Pilot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bAYrcu5_PkoXX
Oh, the helicopter is a Hughes/Sikorsky 300CB.
Yes, Howard Hughes helped design it!!!
And I have about 2,000 flight hours in they. They are excellent training aircraft.
Fool. This is the "Juste pour rire"(Just for laughs)Quebec comedy and a successor to "Candid Camera". It's world famous, and once a year, in Montreal, this festival attracts stand-ups and pranks from all over the world. My god...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#151448 Apr 17, 2013
American Lady wrote:
"I see this as just Round One," Obama said in his Rose Garden remarks.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17...
How DAMN many "rounds" they gonna have ...???
Where I come FROM:
When you "lose" ... you LOSE!
Game OVER!
They did NOT call it a 2 out of 3 ...
OR
3 out of 5 ...!!!
This isn't a GAME!
This is OUR "safety" they are talking about!
A "Second Amendment" RIGHT!
FROM: The United States Constitution ...!!!
Well, he's only had one. You've had 198, haven't even come close to winning a single one. Let him have the second winning one after he wins a good majority in both houses in 2014.

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