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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important, when it is gone we will be under a dictatorship.
Yesterday, Missouri sent to Washington 140,000 names of people with Conseal Carry permits, this was under the guise of medicare!
OR, DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say
http://tinyurl.com/n882x
June 30 (Bloomberg)-- The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court.
The allegation is part of a court filing adding AT&T, the nation's largest telephone company, as a defendant in a breach of privacy case filed earlier this month on behalf of Verizon Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp. customers. The suit alleges that the three carriers, the NSA and President George W. Bush violated the Telecommunications Act of 1934 and the U.S. Constitution, and seeks money damages.
``The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,'' plaintiff's lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview.``This undermines that assertion.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news... #

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President Obama’s Christmas Gift to AT&T (and Comcast and Verizon)
http://tinyurl.com/2cne5wf / Dec 21, 2010
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/president...

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Dr. Katherine Albrecht
http://tinyurl.com/5bphz4
http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/

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Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://www.eff.org/

VERIZON & AT&T SPY ON ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS
Telecom Whistleblower Discovers Circuit that Allows Access to All Systems on Wireless Carrier—Phone Calls, Text Messages, Emails and More / April 10, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/4u8nla
Babak Pasdar is a computer security expert who was hired in 2003 to help restructure the tech infrastructure at a major wireless telecommunications company. What he found shocked him. The company had set up a system that gave a third party, presumably a governmental entity, access to every communication coming through that company’s infrastructure. This means every email, internet use, document transmission, video, text message, as well as the ability to listen to and record any phone call.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/10/telecom...
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I can see it now. North Korea enacts a law declaring that "all children born in the State of Kansas during the month of May, 2013 shall be citizens of North Korea at the moment of their birth".

Dufus Dale: "sorry folks, your kids aren't US citizens. Under Korean law they were born as Korean citizens and therefore they're not junket to US jurisdiction"

Care to dodge again coward?
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Re: "Sorry, the first sentence in the 14th plainly tells you, to be a citizen of the US you must be subject to the Constitution!"
Answer: The words "subject to the Constitution" do not appear in the 14th Amendment. Do not make up things.
When you are born in this country, unless you are the child of a foreign diplomat, you are NOT subject to a foreign power.
Being "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", means the US Constitution.
Those that are subject to a foreign power are aliens, foreigners and diplomats, none of the above lose their citizenship or allegiance to their country of origin, while here, so if their children are born here they automatically receive the citizenship of their father's country, making then ineligible for citizenship in the US.
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DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen / 23 July 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/2cc7af
The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America,(owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.
Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/...
Obama's Socialism will be no different than Hitler's, it is following the same ideas.
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<quoted text>Obama's Socialism will be no different than Hitler's, it is following the same ideas.
Hitler was rightwing fascism.

Socialist in name only.

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Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,

The tone is familiar. Is it Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?

Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?

No. It is from Hitler’s 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.
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So if N Korea declares a child to be a Citizen of N Korea you just smile and waive because they're not "subject to" Dufus Dale's double secret constitution?
You degrade yourself more than I could ever hope to
Well since you are to stupid and lazy, I will re-post for you!

The law is already there, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, yes the child will be a citizen of N. Korea.

Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship. WKA v. US, para 34

Since aliens in this country do not lose their citizenship or allegiance to their country of origin, their children born here automatically become citizens of their father's country of origin, to become a citizen of the US they must be naturalized.
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OR, DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say
http://tinyurl.com/n882x
June 30 (Bloomberg)-- The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court.
The allegation is part of a court filing adding AT&T, the nation's largest telephone company, as a defendant in a breach of privacy case filed earlier this month on behalf of Verizon Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp. customers. The suit alleges that the three carriers, the NSA and President George W. Bush violated the Telecommunications Act of 1934 and the U.S. Constitution, and seeks money damages.
``The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,'' plaintiff's lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview.``This undermines that assertion.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news... #
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President Obama’s Christmas Gift to AT&T (and Comcast and Verizon)
http://tinyurl.com/2cne5wf / Dec 21, 2010
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/president...
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Dr. Katherine Albrecht
http://tinyurl.com/5bphz4
http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/
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Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://www.eff.org/
VERIZON & AT&T SPY ON ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS
Telecom Whistleblower Discovers Circuit that Allows Access to All Systems on Wireless Carrier—Phone Calls, Text Messages, Emails and More / April 10, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/4u8nla
Babak Pasdar is a computer security expert who was hired in 2003 to help restructure the tech infrastructure at a major wireless telecommunications company. What he found shocked him. The company had set up a system that gave a third party, presumably a governmental entity, access to every communication coming through that company’s infrastructure. This means every email, internet use, document transmission, video, text message, as well as the ability to listen to and record any phone call.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/10/telecom...
Yes, Bush did fuchup, plainly violated the Constitution.
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Hitler was rightwing fascism.
Socialist in name only.
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Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,
The tone is familiar. Is it Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?
Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?
No. It is from Hitler’s 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.
National Socialist Party!!! You can't get any plainer than that, can you.
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<quoted text>Yes, Bush did fuchup, plainly violated the Constitution.
Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.

If they did, they would have impeached:

LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.

Nixon for Watergate.

Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.

Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Well since you are to stupid and lazy, I will re-post for you!

The law is already there, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, yes the child will be a citizen of N. Korea.

Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship. WKA v. US, para 34

Since aliens in this country do not lose their citizenship or allegiance to their country of origin, their children born here automatically become citizens of their father's country of origin, to become a citizen of the US they must be naturalized.
So you won't defend your own fable? Or does your play law also provide you with jurisdiction to tell North Korea that that they can't declare all children born in Kansas in May to be citizens?
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<quoted text>Obama's Socialism will be no different than Hitler's, it is following the same ideas.
The Black Elite and the Legacy of Martin Luther King
Glen Ford: Black upper class took advantage of legal victories won by MLK and the Civil Rights Movement and then helped to undermine the movement
Jan. 21, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/asmhb3o
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php...

The Radicalization of Martin Luther King
Anthony Monteiro: Obama's presidency has nothing to do with the legacy of King, it's actually the opposite / Jan. 20. 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/armyjoc
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php...

Don’t You Dare Conflate MLK and Obama
01/16/2013 / http://tinyurl.com/bg78byt
“Had King survived, his break with Obama would have come early.”
Back in 1964, under prodding from a BBC interviewer, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. predicted that a Black person might be elected president [8]“in 25 years or less.” Four years later, shortly before his assassination, King confided [9] to actor/activist Harry Belafonte that he had “come to believe we're integrating into a burning house." We now see that the two notions are not at all contradictory. At least some African Americans have achieved deep penetration of the very pinnacles of white power structures – integrating the White House, itself – while conditions of life for masses of Black folks deteriorate and the society as a whole falls into deep decay.
The fires lit by the “giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism” that Dr. King identified in his 1967 “Beyond Vietnam: Breaking the Silence [10]” speech are consuming the world, now stoked by a Black arsonist-in-chief. Domestic poverty hovers only a fraction of a percentage below the levels of 1965 [11], with “extreme poverty” the highest on record. Black household wealth has collapsed to one-twentieth that of whites. Today, more Black men are under the control of the criminal justice system than were slaves in the decade before the Civil War, according to Michelle Alexander, author of The New Jim Crow.
http://blackagendareport.com/print/content/do...

America’s Poor Left Out of Fiscal cliff Negotiations
http://tinyurl.com/bhlrpex /
With less than three weeks to go, politicians on both sides of the aisle seem as far apart as ever over how to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. In the midst of their considerations, there’s a lot of talk about how would going over the cliff help or hurt the middle class and the wealthiest Americas. But one group that is not getting a lot of attention in the conversation is the very poor.
“Poor people are being rendered more and more invisible everyday,” says television and radio host Tavis Smiley.“Millions of Americans have already gone over the fiscal cliff. It’s not about going over a ‘cliff.’ It’s about austerity masquerading as a conversation about a so-called fiscal cliff.”
http://www.tavistalks.com/visionforanewameric...
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<quoted text>National Socialist Party!!! You can't get any plainer than that, can you.
Hitler was a rightwing fascist, socialist in name only.

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ATTENTION BIRFOONS: The White House has posted Barack HUSSEIN Obama's most recent tax return.

QUICK TO THE BIRFOON MOBILE

LIGHT UP THE BIRFOON SIGNAL

(12 angry and confused senior citizens board a bus)

"We must get his new social security number! I heard from a guy on the internet calling himself cancer on the pResidency that Obumbbler has a whole new social security this year!!"

Jesus wept.
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Hitler was rightwing fascism.
Socialist in name only.
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Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,
The tone is familiar. Is it Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?
Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?
No. It is from Hitler’s 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.
There isn't anything right-wing about a socialist party, right-wingers are somewhere between conservatives and anarchy.

“zero nuclear weapons”

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Grand Birther wrote:
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I can see why you do not complain about Obama.
You must fear being sent back to Africa by Obama if you do, huh?
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Some things that show Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.
Fraudulent long form birth certificate.
Fraudulent Selective Service card.
Connecticut SSN.
His own bio given to his Literary Agent.
Grow a brain, Poopoo stain!
So I guess Obama spending 4 Trillion in one year is OK with you, huh?
If Bush was unpatriotic for spending 5 Trillion in 8 years, what does this make Obama, a God?
It is nimros like you don't get it President Obama was born in Hawaii.
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Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
Yes, most do not believe in the Constitution, if they did Obama would never been POTUS the first time, much less the second time.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Well since you are to stupid and lazy, I will re-post for you!
The law is already there, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, yes the child will be a citizen of N. Korea.
Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship. WKA v. US, para 34
Since aliens in this country do not lose their citizenship or allegiance to their country of origin, their children born here automatically become citizens of their father's country of origin, to become a citizen of the US they must be naturalized.
NO child born in the USA is a citizen of North Korea or any other country, regardless of the citizenship of their parents---so long as they are not foreign diplomats. EVERY child born in the USA is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.
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Justice Dale wrote:
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"Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." Wong Kim Ark v. US, para 34
Yes, Obama was a subject of the UK at the time of his birth. British Nationality Act of 1948
Re: "it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship."

That means that it is the inherent right of the USA (an independent nation) to determine for itself whether children born in its territory are citizens of that country, and the USA has done so. Our rule is that EVERY child born in the USA is a citizen (and in fact a Natural Born Citizen) regardless of the citizenship of her or his parents-----except for the children of foreign diplomats.

EVERY child.
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Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>NO child born in the USA is a citizen of North Korea or any other country, regardless of the citizenship of their parents---so long as they are not foreign diplomats. EVERY child born in the USA is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.
Well sure - that may be the law according to the US - but in play law land they are all citizens of North Korea unless Dufus Fale baptizes them
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>There isn't anything right-wing about a socialist party, right-wingers are somewhere between conservatives and anarchy.
You are just talking about labels my friend.

I'm talking about the Hitler policy.

14 Points of Fascism
http://tinyurl.com/2dfewwu
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4.) Supremacy of the Military - 5.) Rampant Sexism - 6.) Controlled Mass Media
7.) Obsession with National Security - 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined - 9.) Corporate Power is Protected:- 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed:- 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/antifascism...

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