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Learn to Read

Camby, IN

#150309 Apr 11, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You are so confused, Dorthy was the one that clicked her heals together!!
Looks like your credibility has diminished, since you didn't know about Dorthy and her red slippers. How do we know you are right about anything? Hell, the Constitution has proven you wrong, with every post you write.
Blather on Alice. And keep clicking those heels.
John

Idabel, OK

#150310 Apr 11, 2013
Where can you get a fake Id? Passport?

badddawg@rocketmail. com
IDs -$140
Passport -$200
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Learn to Read

Camby, IN

#150312 Apr 11, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law, and it refers to the place of birth.

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

"Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration....St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.(1803)

"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed.(1829)

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:“Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency,

Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling:“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling:“It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”

Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling:“However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States.‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion."
You forget. Dufus Fale has declared all Court decisions, legislation or testimony that runs afoul of his delusion to be null and void. And since he clicked his slippers together as he repeated this claim, we know it must be true
American Lady

Danville, KY

#150314 Apr 11, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law, and it refers to the place of birth.
What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
"Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration....St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.(1803)
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed.(1829)
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagans attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:Those born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency,
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 Appellate Court) ruling:Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are natural born Citizens for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling:It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling:However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that [e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States.Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion."
The below IS just an opinion dipstick!
NOT law! This was during a 'hearing' to change the law!
Didn't HAPPEN!

What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
American Lady

Danville, KY

#150315 Apr 11, 2013
A "natural born citizen
IS
from TWO parent citizens!

That simple ...

NO OTHER WAY!
Learn to Read

Camby, IN

#150317 Apr 11, 2013
American Lady wrote:
A "natural born citizen
IS
from TWO parent citizens!

That simple ...

NO OTHER WAY!
Talk about "just an opinion dipstick"
Learn to Read

Camby, IN

#150318 Apr 11, 2013
American Lady wrote:
A "natural born citizen
IS
from TWO parent citizens!

That simple ...

NO OTHER WAY!
BTW - Dufus Dale has declared your opinion to be invalid.

Sorry to break the news
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150319 Apr 11, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law, and it refers to the place of birth.
What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
"Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration....St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.(1803)
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed.(1829)
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagans attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:Those born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency,
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 Appellate Court) ruling:Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are natural born Citizens for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling:It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling:However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that [e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States.Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion."
You can't show me where English common law was used by Howard, while framing the Citizenship Clause, can you! But, I can show you where he didn't.
Yes, all people born in the US are Natural Born Citizens, but there is a stipulation, they must be "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", meaning not "subject to any foreign power".
The only truth to come out of the WKA v. US, pertaining to citizenship was in para 34, something like, "it is the right for all nations to decide for themselves who they will give citizenship to" and we did just that.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150320 Apr 11, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You are so confused, Dorthy was the one that clicked her heals together!!
Looks like your credibility has diminished, since you didn't know about Dorthy and her red slippers. How do we know you are right about anything? Hell, the Constitution has proven you wrong, with every post you write.
Justice ha ha Dale has just confirmed his thorough knowledge of...fairy tales. Jury believes it best Justice ha ha Dale stick to fairy tales and let go of things constitutional.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150321 Apr 11, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>FOX is owned and controlled by the exact same evil cabal(Freemasons/Illuminati) which also owns C-Span, BBC, NPR, PBS, NBC, the DNC, the GOP, CIA, IMF, CFR, Skull&Bones, etc.
It is? All the above are Murdoch-owned? Care to show some proof of that? BBC is British-state-owned by the way. NBC, is that not GE? Publicly-owned PBS is Murdoch-owned? Cable-channel-owned Cspan is same owner as foxcrap.com , namely Smutty Murdoch? As for the rest- well, I agree, what with his probable contribtions to the GOP,Murdoch probably does own it. And it shows.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150322 Apr 11, 2013
American Lady

Danville, KY

#150323 Apr 11, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Talk about "just an opinion dipstick"
Rule~

It is in the United States of America Constitution!
The natural born part!

Too bad they have taken down all the sites of law that explain that!

Justia-gate! DID just that!
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American Lady

Danville, KY

#150324 Apr 11, 2013
obama scandal justia gate

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Jamestown org

West Sayville, NY

#150325 Apr 11, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
*Hummm, can you name just one state that has ever gone bankrupt?
*You do know that the United Nations does not remove countries from the Human Right Commision. Each year new members are voted in. Now tell us, is the United States currently in the Human Rights Commision? WHY NOT?
*Same goes for the "elections monitoring board"!
Well Tootzie, you stuck out three for three. YOU LOSE!
You seem to like Dumbya Bush, so why do you hate Obama who is continuing 90% of all Bush/Cheney policies including Obamacare/Romneycare and the Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drugs, which all Americans are still paying the highest medicine prices in the world.

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Business as usual
Bush's strong support of the Dubai ports deal isn't so surprising in light of his family's many financial ties to Arab sheikdoms.
/ Feb. 24, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/h9yah
The president's shift in tone is as remarkable as his threat to use his first veto in five years to protect the Dubai deal in the face of bipartisan congressional opposition.

But Bush's passionate defense of the United Arab Emirates and the ports deal inevitably raises questions -- not only about the due diligence of his administration in this instance but about his and his family's long-standing ties to the Persian Gulf sheikdoms, and specifically to the UAE's rulers. His insinuation that skepticism is equivalent to bigotry cannot deflect such concerns, which first arose in the months after the 9/11 attacks.

By now, everyone paying attention to the furor over the Dubai ports deal should be aware of the UAE's mixed record with regard to terror and global security. The Emirates' ruling families formerly maintained close relationships with the Taliban and Osama bin Laden, whose hunting camps in Afghanistan they frequented; two of the 20 hijackers in the 9/11 plot were UAE nationals who used safe houses and banks in Dubai; and the A.Q. Khan nuclear smuggling network also used facilities there to mask its operations. Since 9/11, however, the Emirates have cooperated with U.S. operations against al-Qaida, and their state-owned corporations have eagerly participated in American attempts to improve transportation security.

What seems worrisome even to some who might ultimately accept the Dubai ports deal is the "casual attitude" of the Bush administration in vetting the company, as Sen. Carl Levin put it. Considering the history of Bush entanglement with the oil despots of the Gulf, that lax indulgence was bad policy and worse politics.
Jamestown org

West Sayville, NY

#150326 Apr 11, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that Bush is no longer in office, don't you? But for some reason you are very upset by him. Do you want to talk about it?
Excerpt from "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft, Time (2 March 1998):
While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.

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James Baker: Don't go it alone with Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/9xxb8 /August 26, 2002
CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN)-- Former Secretary of State James Baker Sunday warned President Bush not to "go it alone" against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/2...

Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterrorism efforts
BY GENERAL BRENT SCOWCROFT
August 15, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/44u2d
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/featu...

Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b


General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150327 Apr 11, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, according to Rogue Moron's Rules of Birfirstani Proof, no link, IT'S TOTALLY FAKE.
Sorry, you failed miserably again.
Not a failure. I jerked your chain and you are jumping up and down like a money.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150329 Apr 11, 2013
Jamestown org wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to like Dumbya Bush, so why do you hate Obama who is continuing 90% of all Bush/Cheney policies including Obamacare/Romneycare and the Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drugs, which all Americans are still paying the highest medicine prices in the world.
----------
Business as usual
Bush's strong support of the Dubai ports deal isn't so surprising in light of his family's many financial ties to Arab sheikdoms.
/ Feb. 24, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/h9yah
The president's shift in tone is as remarkable as his threat to use his first veto in five years to protect the Dubai deal in the face of bipartisan congressional opposition.
But Bush's passionate defense of the United Arab Emirates and the ports deal inevitably raises questions -- not only about the due diligence of his administration in this instance but about his and his family's long-standing ties to the Persian Gulf sheikdoms, and specifically to the UAE's rulers. His insinuation that skepticism is equivalent to bigotry cannot deflect such concerns, which first arose in the months after the 9/11 attacks.
By now, everyone paying attention to the furor over the Dubai ports deal should be aware of the UAE's mixed record with regard to terror and global security. The Emirates' ruling families formerly maintained close relationships with the Taliban and Osama bin Laden, whose hunting camps in Afghanistan they frequented; two of the 20 hijackers in the 9/11 plot were UAE nationals who used safe houses and banks in Dubai; and the A.Q. Khan nuclear smuggling network also used facilities there to mask its operations. Since 9/11, however, the Emirates have cooperated with U.S. operations against al-Qaida, and their state-owned corporations have eagerly participated in American attempts to improve transportation security.
What seems worrisome even to some who might ultimately accept the Dubai ports deal is the "casual attitude" of the Bush administration in vetting the company, as Sen. Carl Levin put it. Considering the history of Bush entanglement with the oil despots of the Gulf, that lax indulgence was bad policy and worse politics.
And Obama is right now as I write, support al Qaeda in Syria!!! Oh, we have to deal with OPEC because you environmental whackos won't let us develop our resources.
Tell us, do you support fracking?!? We have been doing it for over forty years now.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150330 Apr 11, 2013
American Lady wrote:
obama scandal justia gate
About 404,000 results (0.18 seconds)
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I have noticed that some sites have changed the wording to the Civil Rights Act of 1866, they leaveout "not subject to a foreign power".
What next, will they burn the Congressional Globe and blame it on the Republicans?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#150334 Apr 11, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a failure. I jerked your chain and you are jumping up and down like a money.
Lol, another of Rogue Bumpkin's Greatest Hits: The Make a Fool Out of Yourself and Then Pretend You Were Trolling Waltz.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150335 Apr 11, 2013
Damn, just got an email from a black friend of mine. Hannity had a show a few days ago and all the audience members were black conservatives and he was there.
I usually do not watch Hannity as he is to predictable but I would have liked to have seen that one.

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