BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150426 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Ipso facto citizenship to the US does not exist, there are stipulations, one must be "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof" (US Constitution), meaning not a citizen of a foreign country.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, which would preclude him from being a citizen of the US.
More insight from Dufus Fale. Sucks to be related to Dale
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150429 Apr 12, 2013
I can see it now. North Korea enacts a law declaring that "all children born in the State of Kansas during the month of May, 2013 shall be citizens of North Korea at the moment of their birth".

Dufus Dale: "sorry folks, your kids aren't US citizens. Under Korean law they were born as Korean citizens and therefore they're not junket to US jurisdiction"
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150430 Apr 12, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>Obama spending 4 Trillion in one year makes Obama, a God?
Spoken like the true SHEEPLE IDIOT that you are!
Yeah - that's exactly what I said
Sucks to be Tacky the illiterate fool
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150431 Apr 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Yes - like all true patriots Dufus Dale bows down to every tin horn dictator you can think of
LMAO!!! You can't belittle the message, so try the messenger!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#150432 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>
"Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." Wong Kim Ark v. US, para 34
Yes, Obama was a subject of the UK at the time of his birth. British Nationality Act of 1948
Re: ""Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." Wong Kim Ark v. US, para 34."

Answer: According to US law, which is the law that counts, Obama---and every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats---is a US citizen. The US Constitution and the US laws say that EVERY child born in the USA is a US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150433 Apr 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
I can see it now. North Korea enacts a law declaring that "all children born in the State of Kansas during the month of May, 2013 shall be citizens of North Korea at the moment of their birth".
Dufus Dale: "sorry folks, your kids aren't US citizens. Under Korean law they were born as Korean citizens and therefore they're not junket to US jurisdiction"
The law is already there, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, yes the child will be a citizen of N. Korea.

Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship. WKA v. US, para 34
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150435 Apr 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
More insight from Dufus Fale. Sucks to be related to Dale
LMAO!!! Don't you wish you were as smart as I, you can be just learn to read and pull you head out of your ass!!! Hahahaha!!!!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150436 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You can't belittle the message, so try the messenger!!
You can't be an littler
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150438 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The law is already there, if the parents are citizens of N. Korea, yes the child will be a citizen of N. Korea.
Who's law?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150439 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Don't you wish you were as smart as I, you can be just learn to read and pull you head out of your ass!!! Hahahaha!!!!
If I were as pathetic as you I certainly wouldn't advertise it
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150440 Apr 12, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: ""Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." Wong Kim Ark v. US, para 34."
Answer: According to US law, which is the law that counts, Obama---and every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats---is a US citizen. The US Constitution and the US laws say that EVERY child born in the USA is a US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.
Sorry, the first sentence in the 14th plainly tells you, to be a citizen of the US you must be subject to the Constitution!
When you are born in this country and subject to a foreing power, you are not subject to the jurisdiction of the Constitution, this is reserved only for citizens of the US.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150441 Apr 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
If I were as pathetic as you I certainly wouldn't advertise it
Pathetic seem to be your constant state of mind! You can't rebut my post, so you try to degrade me personally!! Guess what, it ain't working.
LMAO!!!
Jamestown org

West Sayville, NY

#150442 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Obastard could have been born in the Oval Office, it still wouldn't have given him citizenship to the US, he was born subject to a foreign power (UK).
The Guns, The Gays, The Citizenship, Abortion, are all wedge issues to divide and conquer our ignorant and uninformed masses.

Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.
Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#150443 Apr 12, 2013
Grand Loser wrote:
<quoted text>
Great idea, FAKE Birther, but you responded so it must be having the desired effect on you.
Carry on with your SHEEPLENESS.
The fraud was born in Kenya!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Some things that show Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.
Fraudulent long form birth certificate.
Fraudulent Selective Service card.
Connecticut SSN.
His own bio given to his Literary Agent.
Grow a brain!
LOL, another ineffective spam reply.

When will Kentucky Klown Kar learn that spamming topix does not = petitioning the courts and/or his congressional representatives?
Jamestown org

West Sayville, NY

#150444 Apr 12, 2013
What everyone should be concerned about is the two corporate hacks for 2016.

Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton.

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Wake Up America!
We need a third party forthwith!

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No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates / http://tinyurl.com/4q5vf8 / October 2, 2008
The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed, secret contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. We speak to Open Debates founder and executive director George Farah.
Whats missing however is any concern about the fairness of the very structure of the debate. The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. But the contract remains secret and the Commission on Presidential Debates, a private corporation created by the two major parties, has refused to release the contract to the public.
Open Debates is a non-profit committed to democratizing the presidential debate process. Last month Open Debates and nine other pro-democracy groups called on the Commission to make the contract public.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/2/no_deba...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150445 Apr 12, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Pathetic seem to be your constant state of mind! You can't rebut my post, so you try to degrade me personally!! Guess what, it ain't working.
LMAO!!!
So if N Korea declares a child to be a Citizen of N Korea you just smile and waive because they're not "subject to" Dufus Dale's double secret constitution?

You degrade yourself more than I could ever hope to
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150446 Apr 12, 2013
Jamestown org wrote:
<quoted text>
The Guns, The Gays, The Citizenship, Abortion, are all wedge issues to divide and conquer our ignorant and uninformed masses.
Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.
Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.
This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important, when it is gone we will be under a dictatorship.
Yesterday, Missouri sent to Washington 140,000 names of people with Conseal Carry permits, this was under the guise of medicare!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#150447 Apr 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
So if N Korea declares a child to be a Citizen of N Korea you just smile and waive because they're not "subject to" Dufus Dale's double secret constitution?
You degrade yourself more than I could ever hope to
Hey dumb ass, this was answered in post 150433, but I guess you are too fuching stupid to read! LMAO, at you!!!!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150448 Apr 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Most people know that the Navy's Blue Angels and the Air Force's Thunderbirds are grounded but do you know about this?
Obama does not give a damn about National Security and just like Jimmy Carter's military cutbacks in the 1970's affect their response during the Iranian Hostage crisis, this training cutbacks may affect some unforeseen military crisis.
And Obama, just like Cater, will blame the military!
April 10, 2013 in Nation/World
Air Force grounds combat planes
Cuts to funding lessen readiness, military says
Brock Vergakis Associated Press
NORFOLK, Va.– A third of the U.S. Air Force’s active-duty force of combat planes including fighters and bombers will be grounded due to federal budget cuts, and only the units preparing to deploy to major operations, such as the war in Afghanistan, will remain mission-ready, a top general said Tuesday.
Other units would stand down on a rotating basis, said Gen. Mike Hostage, commander of Air Combat Command at Joint Base Langley-Eustis in Virginia.
“The current situation means we’re accepting the risk that combat airpower may not be ready to respond immediately to new contingencies as they occur,” Hostage said in a statement.
The Air Force didn’t immediately release a list of the specific units and bases that would be affected, but it said it would cover some fighters like F-16 Fighting Falcons and F-22 Raptors, and some airborne warning and control aircraft in the U.S., Europe and the Pacific.
The Air Force says, on average, aircrews “lose currency’ to fly combat commissions within 90 to 120 days of not flying. It generally takes 60 to 90 days to train the crews to mission-ready status.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/apr/10/...
Foolish man. So you think There would not have been an Iranian hostage-taking if Carter had not cut back on the military? More B1s would've solved the crisis? Are you nuts? What other wars could Carter not fight because of his "diminished" forces? Name it. Unless it's Iraq or Aghanistan. Oh, you think with more arms , the US could've gone into Afghanistan and fought the Russians AND the Taliban?

As to today, what war do you want to get into. Are Afghanistan and Iraq not enough for you right now? Obama said he is keeping the necessary forces in a state of preparadness, no?

You want to fight wars to the last American except you. Your warmomgering is "passé", Rogue. Put your sword back in its sheath. we are in 2013 now.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150449 Apr 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
More hatred for The Iron Lady. She has been out of politics for over twenty years now so what does she have to do with the current economy? Maybe the environmentalists have done this town in?
But the loony-lefties will never blame themselves to they have to find a bogeywoman!
In mining ruins left by Thatcher, new economy struggles - By Paul Sandle | Reuters –
By Paul Sandle
GRIMETHORPE, England (Reuters)- In an old-fashioned social club near what was once one of Britain's richest coal seams, former miners played cards and toasted the death of their hated old foe, Margaret Thatcher.
The past looks down solemnly from the walls: a framed list of the names of men who died underground hangs near a flag of the shuttered colliery that once employed 6,000.
Thatcher, the most polarizing prime minister in modern British history, is nowhere more thoroughly despised than here, in northern England's coal belt, where her crackdown against striking miners is blamed for wiping out an entire industry that had sustained a community for generations.
"She should have lived another 180 years and suffered every day of them, like she made the country suffer," said Gary Smith, who worked at the coal mine in the Yorkshire village of Grimethorpe for over 20 years.
http://news.yahoo.com/mining-ruins-left-thatc...
Stay out of politics, Rogue, way out. Specially foreign politics. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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