BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!
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The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Re: "I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!"

Answer: Neither are fraudulent.

Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
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Tacky still fantasizes that no raised seal is visible on the COLB..."there is no fake black pRresident,
You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
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Re: "The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!"

The "born in Kenya" story is still the nuttiest of the nutty birther stories. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and of them only seven were US citizens? And did you know that the government of Kenya said that it had checked and that Obama was not born there?

When the government of Kenya says that Obama was NOT born there and the government of Hawaii (officials of both parties) says that Obama WAS born there, and it would have cost $10,000 in 2013 dollars to get from Hawaii to Kenya and back in 1961 and Obama's relatives did not have that kind of money (and wouldn't have spent it on such a risky trip if they did), then what makes you think that Obama was born in Kenya?
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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"

The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...

(See the third photo from the top.)
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Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Repaste the same pathetic rant much Tacky?

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Hummmm, Mitch McConnell's office bugged?!? And the tapes given to Mother Jones!!! Nixonian!!!!!
Hummm, and a Liberal says we should not come to conclusions but should find out who did it. Well, it is a 99% chance that the bugging was done by a Libtard!!!

Mitch McConnell's Campaign Fundraises Off Secret Audio
—By Tim Murphy| Tue Apr. 9, 2013

Sen. Mitch McConnell's first response to Mother Jones' report on a closed-door campaign meeting about prospective challenger Ashley Judd: Call the FBI. His second response: Asking for money.

On Tuesday morning, McConnell's campaign twitter account blasted out a link to a new splash page (" teammitch.com/wiretap" ;) asking supporters to "stand with Senator McConnell" by signing up for his mailing list—and donating to his campaign. The campaign specifically charges the "liberal media," which in this case is apparently Mother Jones, with "illegal and underhanded tactics":
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/mitch...

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Hummmm, the Lone Star Community College, near Houston, TX is back in the news. In January it involved a shooting involving blacks who knew each other but today it involves a white student who knifed 14 students apparently at random. Hummm!

Texas College Shooting: Trey Foster, second shooting suspect, arrested in college attack January 25, 2013
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575658...

14 People Stabbed at Lone Star Community College in Texas By RUSSELL GOLDMAN - April 9, 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/US/14-people-stabbed-lo...

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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...
(See the third photo from the top.)
Page not found. Just like Obama!!!
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Page not found. Just like Obama!!!
Sorry, my fault:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...
(See the third photo from the top.)
But I got it a different way.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
But there is a problem. The top picture does not show either the seal nor the signature. And the lower pictures do NOT show the rest of the document. So how do we know if pictures two and three are from picture ONE??? We don't except for FactCheck'ss word which is not worth two sense.
And you Libtards question the Shroud of Turin too and there is far more evidence that it is indeed real!

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Repaste the same pathetic rant much Tacky?
It looks like you are pasting your troll remarks!

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The Iron Lady
http://netrightdaily.com/2013/04/the-iron-lad...

Oh, you do know who gave her the name "The Iron Lady", don't you? I wonder what they call Barrack Obama? "Komrad"?
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But I got it a different way.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
But there is a problem. The top picture does not show either the seal nor the signature. And the lower pictures do NOT show the rest of the document. So how do we know if pictures two and three are from picture ONE??? We don't except for FactCheck'ss word which is not worth two sense.
And you Libtards question the Shroud of Turin too and there is far more evidence that it is indeed real!
Because they SAID IT.

How do we know that Obama has received the short form and long form birth certificates from Hawaii? Because the officials in Hawaii said that they sent it. How do we know that the facts on the long form and short form birth certificates are exactly the same as on the documents that Hawaii sent to Obama? Because the officials said it.

Factcheck says that the seal that is photographed is on the short form birth certificate. Journalist Savannah Gutherie said that she felt the seal on the long form birth certificate.

For Obama not to have a birth certificate from Hawaii, both the officials in Hawaii (of both parties) and FactCheck and Savannah Gutherie would all have to be lying.

Furthermore, there is the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961, and only the DOH could send those notices to that section of the paper-----which was called the "Health Bureau Statistics" section-----and it only did so for births in Hawaii.

And it continues to be loony to believe that Obama's relatives were rich enough (his American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his American grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to spend any money at all on a long, risky (the incidence of stillbirths were high) trip to Kenya or to any foreign country for their pregnant daughter-----when there were perfectly fine hospitals in Hawaii.
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But I got it a different way.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
But there is a problem. The top picture does not show either the seal nor the signature. And the lower pictures do NOT show the rest of the document. So how do we know if pictures two and three are from picture ONE??? We don't except for FactCheck'ss word which is not worth two sense.
And you Libtards question the Shroud of Turin too and there is far more evidence that it is indeed real!
Further to the above:

Here is the web image of Mitt Romney's birth certificate:

https://www.google.com/search...

Do you see any embossed seal at all?
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Remember when George W. Bush called for strong background check regimes during the 2000 and 2004 campaigns and cons were all for it.

Lololololol

Sudden onset amnesia.

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WITH this many folks Commenting on this thread Subject.. YA think..WE WOULD HAVE FOUND PROOF BY NOW!!!

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Intellectually honest? Should I paste in volumes of rants about global warming or the St Louis pitching staff or blocking vs charging or any other of the multitude of available blather that has no pertinence to the Birfoon fable? Is that considered "intellectual" in Birfistan? Why don't you get a plane with a really big window, open it all the way and practice some aerobatics?
Sorry, I am not a sports nut. Oh, all of the aircraft I have flown have big windows that open. And I have flown more than a few with the doors removed!
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STILL further to the raised seal question.

Here is the Savannah Gutherie photo, and if you look very closely just below the Aug 8, and just above the Apr 25, you can see that the raised seal comes through.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other...

It is not visible on the White House scan into PDF, but it is faintly visible in this jpg image.

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In Hawaii I tried a few times to fly within about 500 feet of humpback whales. They are impressive flying over them at about 500 feet. Get any closer and they sound!

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WITH this many folks Commenting on this thread Subject.. YA think..WE WOULD HAVE FOUND PROOF BY NOW!!!
We have. Both his CoLB and his BC posted on the internet are fraudulent. But this one has not been debunked yet and it says he was born in ... Kenya!!!
http://alohareporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2...

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