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OMG, Obama submits a line-item budget to Congress. Only 4 years and two months late.
Eye nose, eye nose you Libtards claim he did submit budgets but he only submitted budget summaries that were only a few pages long. An actual budget is thousands of pages with each page containing dozens of line numbers.

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In February 2008 Pres. Bush submitted the last previous budget for FY2009. The total request was for a budget of ....$2.7 Trillion but Speaker San Fran Nan Pelosi threw it in the trash can. And it was not until April 11, 2009 for .....$3.7 Trillion. But the Libtards claim it was Bush's budget .... but it was NOT!
San Fran Nan added $860 Billion for bailouts and another $140 Billion for Obama's slush fund. Now, after the GM and Chrysler bailouts, why did they not drop the budget back to $2.7 Trillion? What have they been spending that extra trillion dollars on??? We don't know as Obama is not telling.
But we do know that Obama closed the Space Shuttle down, put the USS Enterprise, and it's dozen support ships, into mouth ball three years early and he has cut, cut, cut our military to the bone. So, what is Obama done with all that money he has "saved" from the closing of those programs? WE DON'T KNOW!!!
A trillion dollars is being added to our national debt each year and for what? I think I have a right to know!!!
Oh, Obama's White House transportation is two and a half times more expensive that Bush's eight year average!!! You would think he would cut back just a tad from his Gulliver's Travels.
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his mother was white, father was black. he is multi racial, not white, not black.
yes he was born in Kenya.
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Agreed, he is multiracial.


The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
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Further to the "born in Kenya" myth:

Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama's mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely---such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?

That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document.(Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother's US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.

That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn't.

So, for the "born in Kenya" story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii, now running for the US Senate. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.

And, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama's parents had that kind of money or would spend it on a trip while Obama's mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.

The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama's mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama's relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn't any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
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his mother was white, father was black. he is multi racial, not white, not black.
yes he was born in Kenya.
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Agreed. He is multiracial:

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

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Yep, just what you'd expect in Loony-lefty Michigan.

Michigan Man Fights For Right To Display Anti-Obama Signs
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Now the Libtards want to ban Automatic Knives!!!
Smith and Wesson Automatic Switchblade Knife
The H.R.T. SW80B
Have the fundamental tactical ability of a switchblade automatic knife; provided by an icon of American weapons manufacturers.
The H.R.T. series is all about simplicity, speed and ruggedness.
The firing system operates smoothly and fast featuring a prominant firing button that easy to 'feel' without looking for,
The comfortable ergonomically designed handle, along with generally slightly curved shape also makes this automatic knife, a very comfortable cutting and slicing device for regular field chores.
Comes with safety lock.
A solid, well-affixed clip makes it easy to carry.
The bottom line: a very good, reliable and practical companion for professionals agents and those that defend us from the bad guys whoever and wherever they might be.
http://www.menseffects.com/ProductDetails.asp...
Er, Rogue, beside killing human beings and little aninals, care to tell us what the original purpose of the "Smith and Wesson Automatic Switchblade Knife
The H.R.T. SW80B" is?

And if it is for "field chores", why does it have to deploy in a nano-second?

You're a sick sick man, Rogue, eulogizing and pushing killing instruments. Now it's automatic knives, to be paired by automatic assault weapons with 60-shell magazines. Who's going to surpass the Newtown 26, Rogue? You? Hey, are grenades also legal, and not require a background check if purchased? Well, darn it, they should be legal, you never know. Add Howitzers to the list of "must-have" hardware.

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Please note, our Second Amendment does not mention knives. Nor does it mention sword, bows and arrows or even guns. But they are all "arms"!!!
And "arm" is any personal weapon. Think of it as an extension of one's arm! It is not a tank, fighter plane, bazooka, etc.
What horsesh*t. Are you okay? Drooling by any chance?

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Oh, the guy who was knifing people at the Lone Star Community College in Houston stopped when his knife broke! He should have bought a better knife!
Better than that, he should have had an assault rifle or gun, imagine how much more effective that would've been!
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Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Kentucky Klown Kar is still unable to discern the internet from real life. Sorry, but only valid hard copy documents are accepted. No need to trifle with meaningless internet images.

Speaking of meaningless, the non-law enforcement, unofficial cold cut pansies refused hard copy documents from Hawaii DOH and instead choose to fool around with meaningless internet images.

LOLOLOLOL Another bad day for birfoons.
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OMG, Obama submits a line-item budget to Congress. Only 4 years and two months late.
Eye nose, eye nose you Libtards claim he did submit budgets but he only submitted budget summaries that were only a few pages long. An actual budget is thousands of pages with each page containing dozens of line numbers.
LOL, another of Rogue Moron's Greatest Hits.

The Ol' Pretend I Can't Google This Information on My Own Shuffle.

If Rogue Moron simply buries his head in the sand, he can deny objective reality for decades.

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YOU are a lying birther.
Why are you so charitable?

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In February 2008 Pres. Bush submitted the last previous budget for FY2009. The total request was for a budget of ....$2.7 Trillion but Speaker San Fran Nan Pelosi threw it in the trash can. And it was not until April 11, 2009 for .....$3.7 Trillion. But the Libtards claim it was Bush's budget .... but it was NOT!
San Fran Nan added $860 Billion for bailouts and another $140 Billion for Obama's slush fund. Now, after the GM and Chrysler bailouts, why did they not drop the budget back to $2.7 Trillion? What have they been spending that extra trillion dollars on??? We don't know as Obama is not telling.
But we do know that Obama closed the Space Shuttle down, put the USS Enterprise, and it's dozen support ships, into mouth ball three years early and he has cut, cut, cut our military to the bone. So, what is Obama done with all that money he has "saved" from the closing of those programs? WE DON'T KNOW!!!
A trillion dollars is being added to our national debt each year and for what? I think I have a right to know!!!
Oh, Obama's White House transportation is two and a half times more expensive that Bush's eight year average!!! You would think he would cut back just a tad from his Gulliver's Travels.
Care to tell us what happened between Feb 2008 and April 2009, Rogue? That little bottom falling out, called a recession, remember? How much of that budget increase did GWB himself account for by signing the first 500 billion dollar bailout WHILE STILL PRESIDENT in October-November 2008?

You think people are like you, that they don't read, that they don't get to the bottom of things, that their sole interests are guns and waffle houses, why, cultured extreme fighting and "wrassssling", why not?

The hard times came, Rogue, and they are still around and you can thank your idol GWB for 95% of it.
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Oh, the guy who was knifing people at the Lone Star Community College in Houston stopped when his knife broke! He should have bought a better knife!
Here is Rogue Moron voicing his support for the efficient killings.

Good job, Rogue Moron. Making the country and your family proud.
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THIS is what "the LEFT & their ilk" believe in.
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Gosnell Worker: Baby Screamed During Live-Birth “Abortion”

Today’s testimony during the murder trial of abortion practitioner Kermit Gosnell was no less shocking than previous days. Today, a former employee described how she heard a baby scream during a live-birth abortion.

Abortion clinic employee Sherry West described an incident which “really freaked (her) out” and related to the jury how she heard a child who was born alive following an abortion scream.

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/08/gosnell-wo...
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Court going on now.
Plus; take the Arias trial.
Time & money being wasted on the human dregs of society. Money WE do not have.
libTARDS! doing what THEY do best!

In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened. It IS because we took God out of our schools, courthouses, etc.
No God fearing people, NO knowledge!

imo

No God no peace.
Know God Know peace.

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THIS is what "the LEFT & their ilk" believe in.
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Gosnell Worker: Baby Screamed During Live-Birth “Abortion”
Today’s testimony during the murder trial of abortion practitioner Kermit Gosnell was no less shocking than previous days. Today, a former employee described how she heard a baby scream during a live-birth abortion.
Abortion clinic employee Sherry West described an incident which “really freaked (her) out” and related to the jury how she heard a child who was born alive following an abortion scream.
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/08/gosnell-wo...
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Court going on now.
Plus; take the Arias trial.
Time & money being wasted on the human dregs of society. Money WE do not have.
libTARDS! doing what THEY do best!
In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened. It IS because we took God out of our schools, courthouses, etc.
No God fearing people, NO knowledge!
imo
No God no peace.
Know God Know peace.
American er hmm Lady : "In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened".

You mean the inquisition, just to mention one of a thousand horrors, would never have happened in a Christian world? Was that not a Christian world then? Do you know of Isabel la Catolica?

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Er, Rogue, beside killing human beings and little aninals, care to tell us what the original purpose of the "Smith and Wesson Automatic Switchblade Knife
The H.R.T. SW80B" is?
And if it is for "field chores", why does it have to deploy in a nano-second?
You're a sick sick man, Rogue, eulogizing and pushing killing instruments. Now it's automatic knives, to be paired by automatic assault weapons with 60-shell magazines. Who's going to surpass the Newtown 26, Rogue? You? Hey, are grenades also legal, and not require a background check if purchased? Well, darn it, they should be legal, you never know. Add Howitzers to the list of "must-have" hardware.
What happens if you have only one good hand? Military aircrews are issued automatic knives because of that very reason. And that is also why traditionally aircrews are armed with revolvers.
Ever try and charge an autoloading pistol with one hand? I know you haven't, but if you had ever handled, let's say a M1911A1, how would you manipulate the slide with only one good hand?
Can you show us anywhere in the Second Amendment that gives anyone the right to decide what arm you can or can not own/carry?
What does "shall not be infringed." mean to you? As far as I am concerned, most weapon laws passed after about 1920 are unconstitutional no matter what our Supreme Court has ruled.
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American er hmm Lady : "In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened".
You mean the inquisition, just to mention one of a thousand horrors, would never have happened in a Christian world? Was that not a Christian world then? Do you know of Isabel la Catolica?
MY mistake.
I "thought" WE had grown MORE "civilized" since then!

Since there has been FREE education in America!

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, the guy who was knifing people at the Lone Star Community College in Houston stopped when his knife broke! He should have bought a better knife!
Grand Birther wrote:
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Here is Rogue Moron voicing his support for the efficient killings.
Good job, Rogue Moron. Making the country and your family proud.
Suppose you are carving on a piece of wood with a knife and the blade breaks? You could be injured. I have a few knives and none are fancy but all are of high quality and are used for what they are intended. An example of improper use of a knife would be using a knife as a pry bar. Yet I have seen people do that and often the blade breaks.

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American er hmm Lady : "In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened".
You mean the inquisition, just to mention one of a thousand horrors, would never have happened in a Christian world? Was that not a Christian world then? Do you know of Isabel la Catolica?
As if there were no Muslim atrocities way back then.
How often does this happen in Christians countries today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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