BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Ellen1

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For Obama to have been born in a foreign country BOTH (1) the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH would ALL have to be lying (also the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley), AND (2) Obama’s relatives would have had to have had enough money (and Obama's American grandfather was only a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii from Kenya on free flights) and be willing to waste it sending their pregnant only daughter on a trip ALONE to a foreign country (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at high risk (the rate of stillbirths were high at the time)—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Oooo, Learn to Read wrote a paragraph. Well, sort of. When you are unable to enter into an intellectually honest discussion, you attack you opponent!!! How sophomoric can you get!!!
Intellectually honest? Should I paste in volumes of rants about global warming or the St Louis pitching staff or blocking vs charging or any other of the multitude of available blather that has no pertinence to the Birfoon fable? Is that considered "intellectual" in Birfistan? Why don't you get a plane with a really big window, open it all the way and practice some aerobatics?
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Re: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"

The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

(See the third photo from the top.)
Tacky still fantasizes that no raised seal is visible on the COLB... You could show him 4,358 separate high resolution photos of the raised seal on the long form and he'd just rock back and forth faster and faster while chanting "there is no semi black President, there is no semi black President"
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<quoted text>On page 26 of "Dreams from My Father(whoever that was)" Obama mentions having a copy his (Kenyan)Birth Certificate. He must have accidently shredded that one?
And how do you explain the certified copy of the original smuggled out of Kenya in 2008 by Lucas D. Smith?
Dr. Alan Schecter swearing he delivered the little turd in Mombassa?
Granny Sarah Obama stating repeatedly she was present for the birth? The timely death of Granny Dunham?
Killing OBL on the eve of Keyes v. Obama Citizenship?
Re: "On page 26 of "Dreams from My Father(whoever that was)" Obama mentions having a copy his (Kenyan)Birth Certificate. He must have accidently shredded that one?"

Answer: No. He lost it. Millions of people lose the birth certificates that were sent to their parents. That is why DOH's send copies. The DOH of Hawaii sent the short form to Obama in 2007 and the long form to Obama in 2011---and each time the officials of Hawaii confirmed that they did.

Re: "And how do you explain the certified copy of the original smuggled out of Kenya in 2008 by Lucas D. Smith?"

Answer: It is a forgery, done by a man who had previously been convicted of forgery, and who merely claimed to have gone to Kenya, and who has refused every single request for him to show proof that he had ever gone to Kenya.

Re: "Dr. Alan Schecter swearing he delivered the little turd in Mombassa?"

Answer: It is a birther LIE.

Re: "Granny Sarah Obama stating repeatedly she was present for the birth? "

Answer: She NEVER said that she was present for the birth. Birther sites simply cut off the tape just BEFORE she was asked "where was he born?" She answered that question by saying repeatedly "In Hawaii" but birther sites did not quote her. So that was another birther lie.

Re: "The timely death of Granny Dunham?"

Answer: She died at the age of 86 of cancer after a long battle against it. Who told you that it was "timely?" Why did you believe that claim?

Re: "Killing OBL on the eve of Keyes v. Obama Citizenship? "

Answer: If you are referring to Keyes v. Bowen, that was thrown out in 2009, and the California Supreme Court refused to review the case in 2011.

The "born in Kenya" story is still the nuttiest of the nutty birther stories. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and of them only seven were US citizens? And did you know that the government of Kenya said that it had checked and that Obama was not born there?

When the government of Kenya says that Obama was NOT born there and the government of Hawaii (officials of both parties) says that Obama WAS born there, and it would have cost $10,000 in 2013 dollars to get from Hawaii to Kenya and back in 1961 and Obama's relatives did not have that kind of money (and wouldn't have spent it on such a risky trip if they did), then what makes you believe a "birth certificate" from a former convicted forger that claims that Obama was born in Kenya?

What makes you believe birther sites that say that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that she was present at his birth in Kenya, when the transcript shows that she said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii? Do you like to be thought of as gullible?
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<quoted text>Do you like to be thought of as gullible?
He's a Birfoon. The entire concept of thought is foreign to him
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Re: "Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!"
Obama's short form and long form birth certificates are more proof
You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
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Re: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate,
Finally you admit the truth, thanks.

You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
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Grand Birther wrote:
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You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!
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The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Re: "I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!"

Answer: Neither are fraudulent.

Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
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Tacky still fantasizes that no raised seal is visible on the COLB..."there is no fake black pRresident,
You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
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Re: "The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!"

The "born in Kenya" story is still the nuttiest of the nutty birther stories. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and of them only seven were US citizens? And did you know that the government of Kenya said that it had checked and that Obama was not born there?

When the government of Kenya says that Obama was NOT born there and the government of Hawaii (officials of both parties) says that Obama WAS born there, and it would have cost $10,000 in 2013 dollars to get from Hawaii to Kenya and back in 1961 and Obama's relatives did not have that kind of money (and wouldn't have spent it on such a risky trip if they did), then what makes you think that Obama was born in Kenya?
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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"

The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...

(See the third photo from the top.)
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Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Repaste the same pathetic rant much Tacky?

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Hummmm, Mitch McConnell's office bugged?!? And the tapes given to Mother Jones!!! Nixonian!!!!!
Hummm, and a Liberal says we should not come to conclusions but should find out who did it. Well, it is a 99% chance that the bugging was done by a Libtard!!!

Mitch McConnell's Campaign Fundraises Off Secret Audio
—By Tim Murphy| Tue Apr. 9, 2013

Sen. Mitch McConnell's first response to Mother Jones' report on a closed-door campaign meeting about prospective challenger Ashley Judd: Call the FBI. His second response: Asking for money.

On Tuesday morning, McConnell's campaign twitter account blasted out a link to a new splash page (" teammitch.com/wiretap" ;) asking supporters to "stand with Senator McConnell" by signing up for his mailing list—and donating to his campaign. The campaign specifically charges the "liberal media," which in this case is apparently Mother Jones, with "illegal and underhanded tactics":
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/mitch...

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Hummmm, the Lone Star Community College, near Houston, TX is back in the news. In January it involved a shooting involving blacks who knew each other but today it involves a white student who knifed 14 students apparently at random. Hummm!

Texas College Shooting: Trey Foster, second shooting suspect, arrested in college attack January 25, 2013
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575658...

14 People Stabbed at Lone Star Community College in Texas By RUSSELL GOLDMAN - April 9, 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/US/14-people-stabbed-lo...

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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...
(See the third photo from the top.)
Page not found. Just like Obama!!!
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Page not found. Just like Obama!!!
Sorry, my fault:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

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Repeating the answer to: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the -...
(See the third photo from the top.)
But I got it a different way.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
But there is a problem. The top picture does not show either the seal nor the signature. And the lower pictures do NOT show the rest of the document. So how do we know if pictures two and three are from picture ONE??? We don't except for FactCheck'ss word which is not worth two sense.
And you Libtards question the Shroud of Turin too and there is far more evidence that it is indeed real!

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Repaste the same pathetic rant much Tacky?
It looks like you are pasting your troll remarks!

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The Iron Lady
http://netrightdaily.com/2013/04/the-iron-lad...

Oh, you do know who gave her the name "The Iron Lady", don't you? I wonder what they call Barrack Obama? "Komrad"?
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But I got it a different way.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
But there is a problem. The top picture does not show either the seal nor the signature. And the lower pictures do NOT show the rest of the document. So how do we know if pictures two and three are from picture ONE??? We don't except for FactCheck'ss word which is not worth two sense.
And you Libtards question the Shroud of Turin too and there is far more evidence that it is indeed real!
Because they SAID IT.

How do we know that Obama has received the short form and long form birth certificates from Hawaii? Because the officials in Hawaii said that they sent it. How do we know that the facts on the long form and short form birth certificates are exactly the same as on the documents that Hawaii sent to Obama? Because the officials said it.

Factcheck says that the seal that is photographed is on the short form birth certificate. Journalist Savannah Gutherie said that she felt the seal on the long form birth certificate.

For Obama not to have a birth certificate from Hawaii, both the officials in Hawaii (of both parties) and FactCheck and Savannah Gutherie would all have to be lying.

Furthermore, there is the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961, and only the DOH could send those notices to that section of the paper-----which was called the "Health Bureau Statistics" section-----and it only did so for births in Hawaii.

And it continues to be loony to believe that Obama's relatives were rich enough (his American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his American grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to spend any money at all on a long, risky (the incidence of stillbirths were high) trip to Kenya or to any foreign country for their pregnant daughter-----when there were perfectly fine hospitals in Hawaii.

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