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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150166 Apr 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Islamic Hand Cutting : Shariah Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LKIUtBCyt50XX
Too horrible, barbaric, cruel, and real. I don't want to see it. But YOU do, oh, how you'd be in the front row watching, and ...orgasming when the hand comes off. Oh, and how you were born too late, how you would've have enjoyed those witch and heretics lynchings as they burned at the stake. For your pleasure and edification, I'm referring you to the following website, which I have not looked at but I'm sure you'll find it's right up you alley. If it doesn't work, as I seem to have no luck with links, you'll know where to go, just google, "burning of erectics and witches during the inqisition". Enjoy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_ear...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#150167 Apr 10, 2013
From Wong Kim Ark:

"The words ‘in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’ in the first sentence of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution, must be presumed to have been understood and intended by the congress which proposed the amendment, and by the legislatures which adopted it, in the same sense in which the like words had been used by Chief Justice Marshall….”

Now one can reasonably debate whether CJ Marshall's discussion would extend "subject to" to persons in the Country illegally, but there is NO DOUBT that his use of the term specifically and intentionally included those here willfully and legally

Hmmmm. CJ Marshall or Dufus Dale ... Hard call as to who's opinion would carry more weight

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150168 Apr 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Now here is a typical Libtardian response to an Islamic honor killing. The difference being is that the person(s) who dragged that guy to death were not acting for the government and they were punished.
And, what would happen if that gay person was caught in Iran today? Oh, I know, they do not have gay people in Iran (as they are killed just as soon as they are even suspected)
America is far from being perfect, by we are better than the vast majority of other countries.
Jerry Ballew said...
We read now and then that some gay person has been dragged to death behind a pickup then burned in Alabama or Texas among other southern states. Many other atrocities are committed nationally against gays practically every day. The perpetrators then hide behind the Bible which prescribes death for gays (he/she was only gay, so what?). Who's the biggest barbarian?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shru...
Why do you think you're better than Sweden, Norway, Finland, Dennmark, The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembour, The UK, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Poland, Czchek Republic, Slovakia, Slovania, Australia, Iceland, New Zealand, Japan, just to name a few? Who do you think you are? Don;t you know that sensible intelligent Americans don't go around saying they are better? No, they are secure, they don't have to.
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#150170 Apr 10, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are a lying birther.
Ooh, that hurts so bad, ha, ha, ha!

Yep, I'm SMellen1, SHEEPLE!

Savannah Guthrie is a lying Obot and there is no seal to be seen in that photo, SHEEPLE!
Where exactly do you think you see it at with your delusional brain?

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.

YOU are a lying SHEEPLE!
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#150171 Apr 10, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
Yep, I'm SMellen1, SHEEPLE!

Savannah Guthrie is a lying Obot and there is no seal to be seen in that photo, SHEEPLE!
Where exactly do you think you see it at with your delusional brain?

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#150172 Apr 10, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so charitable?
Why are you so QUEER?

Since: Apr 13

Minneapolis, MN

#150173 Apr 10, 2013
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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#150174 Apr 10, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Just be a QUEER and go suck a big one!
Here we go again. Allusions to "queers". Very Rush and LRS-like. Related by any chance? Getting crowded in that birther-filled closet? Imagine a bunch of right-wing closet gays armed to the teeth, all cleaning their loaded rifles at the same time, BANG, BANG BANG. Ha ha, LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#150176 Apr 10, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooh, that hurts so bad, ha, ha, ha!
Yep, I'm SMellen1, SHEEPLE!
Savannah Guthrie is a lying Obot and there is no seal to be seen in that photo, SHEEPLE!
Where exactly do you think you see it at with your delusional brain?
Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
YOU are a lying SHEEPLE!
You are a lying birther.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#150177 Apr 10, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, I'm SMellen1, SHEEPLE!
Savannah Guthrie is a lying Obot and there is no seal to be seen in that photo, SHEEPLE!
Where exactly do you think you see it at with your delusional brain?
Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
YOU are a lying birther.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#150178 Apr 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, the guy who was knifing people at the Lone Star Community College in Houston stopped when his knife broke! He should have bought a better knife!
<quoted text>
Suppose you are carving on a piece of wood with a knife and the blade breaks? You could be injured. I have a few knives and none are fancy but all are of high quality and are used for what they are intended. An example of improper use of a knife would be using a knife as a pry bar. Yet I have seen people do that and often the blade breaks.
Rogue Moron as usual misses the point and instead blabbers about whittling.

He wonders why no one takes his brilliance seriously.
Learn to Read

Franklin, IN

#150179 Apr 10, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>You are a lying birther.
Lying. Birther. Kind of redundant

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150180 Apr 10, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
PS : You know, Rogue, most of the mass killers of school children, theatre goers, workplace colleagues, university students and staff, most of those nuts pretty much describe you to a "T". Frustrated, unknowing ultra-right-wing blind followers, non-achieving envious loners, gun adorators, yes, gun adorators, that is the key. Were I living in your neighbouring, Rogue, I'd steer clear.
Ultra right? Try Looney-Lefties!!!
Next, they were all crazy? And some of the victims where college students. Why most of the shooters where college students!!!
Wrond, wrong and wrong. Three strikes, your out!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150181 Apr 10, 2013
Huuummmm, this is another Obama scheme which is intended to go after the rich people but will actually go after the average-Joes trying to get ahead.
Now, suppose Rush Limbaugh flies his business jet to Las Vegas and it costs him $10,000 for the trip. So now it is $10,010?!?
But let's say you are trying to get a commercial pilots licence and you rent a Cessna 152 at $75 an hour. And then you add another $100?!? Who do you think can easily pay the $100 per flight?
Or how about the person who likes in Alaska and there are no roads, to hike 100 miles through the snow may take over a week, but now a $100 flight in your Maule M-7 is now $200!!!
Obama has a brain the size of a Shitcago rat!

AOPA warns user fee proposal could cripple GA
Association pledges to work with Congress, GA community to oppose fees - By AOPA Communications staff

The White House on April 10 released a budget proposal that includes a $100-per-flight user fee—a charge AOPA warns could be disastrous for general aviation.
http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2013/13...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150182 Apr 10, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Care to tell us what happened between Feb 2008 and April 2009, Rogue? That little bottom falling out, called a recession, remember? How much of that budget increase did GWB himself account for by signing the first 500 billion dollar bailout WHILE STILL PRESIDENT in October-November 2008?
You think people are like you, that they don't read, that they don't get to the bottom of things, that their sole interests are guns and waffle houses, why, cultured extreme fighting and "wrassssling", why not?
The hard times came, Rogue, and they are still around and you can thank your idol GWB for 95% of it.
Yes, Bush signed it into law, so. Bill Clinton signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law, seven of the points of the Contract with America into law as well as the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law. Bush-41 also signed the law banning CFC into law. It does not mean he approved of the law, but he had little choice.
Now, you say GWB is responsible for 95% of it. Can you expand that a little? You know, like cause and effect. Ya know, like the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in June 1991 caused the larger than normal Ozone Hole over the North Pole!!!
No president can sign any law that is not first approved by ..... Congress!!!
If the Republicans had controlled Congress from 2007 until 2011, we would be far better off than we are now!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150183 Apr 10, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
American er hmm Lady : "In a Christian world this would NEVER have happened".
You mean the inquisition, just to mention one of a thousand horrors, would never have happened in a Christian world? Was that not a Christian world then? Do you know of Isabel la Catolica?
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
MY mistake.
I "thought" WE had grown MORE "civilized" since then!
Since there has been FREE education in America!
Jacques is anti-Christians. Muslims .... good, Christians .... badddd. I wonder if Jacques can figure out why there are no gays in Muslim countries? Why in Mali, if you even look gay, you get executed!!!

French Troops Save 2 Gay Mali Men From Execution
by Jason St. Amand / Staff Writer / Feb 6, 2013

Two men from Mali who were scheduled to be executed for allegedly having gay sex were saved by the French military, Gay Star News reports.

Islamist extremists took over northern territories .........
http://www.edgeboston.com/...

Eye nose, eye nose, Jacques will claim Mali is a Christian nation but the Muslims control the Northern territories!!!!
Justice Dale

United States

#150184 Apr 10, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Replying to "Justice Dale."
Re: "As you know Howard was the father of the citizenship clause and I would like for you to find me one indication that he used english common law for his framing.(ratified in 1868) "
Answer: Dream on about Howard being "the father of the citizenship clause. At most he was ONE of the fathers.
Over on the Senate side, the author of the citizenship clause was Senator Lyman Trumball.
And here is what Lyman Trumball said:
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born. I read from Paschale's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
Irrelevant! The law was put in place and ratified in 1868 and not one mention of English common law was indicated.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#150185 Apr 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
What happens if you have only one good hand? Military aircrews are issued automatic knives because of that very reason. And that is also why traditionally aircrews are armed with revolvers.
Ever try and charge an autoloading pistol with one hand? I know you haven't, but if you had ever handled, let's say a M1911A1, how would you manipulate the slide with only one good hand?
Can you show us anywhere in the Second Amendment that gives anyone the right to decide what arm you can or can not own/carry?
What does "shall not be infringed." mean to you? As far as I am concerned, most weapon laws passed after about 1920 are unconstitutional no matter what our Supreme Court has ruled.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The military is the military, Rogue. We are talking ordinary civilians here now. Infringed? Are you part of a militia?
What is this fascination with human-killing weapons? Ever tried reading a book, going to a concert, movie, theatre, watch an opera, a symphony orchestra, a rock or rap or folk or C&W show? A sporting event, the Marlins maybe or Dolphins or Heat? A bit of a change from your penis proxies, the guns.
Have you ever scene a one handed civilian before? And where does it say in our Second Amendment you must be in a militia to own any "arm"? And do you think a one-armed woman has a penis problem?
Justice Dale

United States

#150186 Apr 10, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
This PROVES that the Republican Conservative Supreme Court are Activist Jurist.
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No other future Supreme Court or any court is allowed to use Bush v Gore as precedent. Bush is truly an illegitimate President. http://tinyurl.com/2ps3e3
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/11/07/flanders...
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Has Bush v. Gore Become the Case That Must Not Be Named?
August 15, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/qbx2s
At a law school Supreme Court conference that I attended last fall, there was a panel on “The Rehnquist Court.” No one mentioned Bush v. Gore, the most historic case of William Rehnquist’s time as chief justice, and during the Q. and A. no one asked about it. When I asked a prominent law professor about this strange omission, he told me he had been invited to participate in another Rehnquist retrospective, and was told in advance that Bush v. Gore would not be discussed.
The ruling that stopped the Florida recount and handed the presidency to George W. Bush is disappearing down the legal world’s version of the memory hole, the slot where, in George Orwell’s “1984,” government workers disposed of politically inconvenient records. The Supreme Court has not cited it once since it was decided, and when Justice Antonin Scalia, who loves to hold forth on court precedents, was asked about it at a forum earlier this year, he snapped,“Come on, get over it.”
There is a legal argument for pushing Bush v. Gore aside. The majority opinion announced that the ruling was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent. But many legal scholars insisted at the time that this assertion was itself dictum — the part of a legal opinion that is nonbinding — and illegitimate, because under the doctrine of stare decisis, courts cannot make rulings whose reasoning applies only to a single case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/opinion/15t...
The USSC has been overstepping the boundaries of the US Constitution for over 114+ years, the latest one was when Roberts interpreted that a fine was a tax, this is not how the bill was written.
The USSC is conservative?

Since: May 10

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#150187 Apr 10, 2013
Oh, do you know who Jack Roosevelt "Jackie" Robinson was named after? No, not the DEMOCRAT FDR but the Republican Teddy Roosevelt!!!!

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