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#149974 Apr 9, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, South Dakota may get 16 inches of snow today? Ah, didn't winter end over two months ago?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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There is a difference between local local local and global global global, Rogue.
And, has the earth cooled or warmed or stayed put in the last 35 years? 6th request for a reply yet you keep coming up with local weather freaks.
OMG, he gets it!!! Dr. James Hansen NASA-GISS) has been using ONLY Urban Heat Island BIG CITIES and declaring that they are a sample of the Earth whereas and cope to the concludion that the Earth is still warming NASA-MSFC uses only satellite observations of the troposphere from all over the Earth and THEY conclude the WHOLE Earth has cooled one degree Centigrade so far this century!!!

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#149975 Apr 9, 2013
It is real easy for BIG CITIES (Urban Heat Islands) to continue to get hotter while the Earth is getting cooler. But what is rare is when a Big City sets a new all time LOW temp. like New Delhi set this winter!!!
That's right there chowder head. New Delhi set a new ALL TIME record LOW!!! The city is only about 85 years old and back then the population was like a village and now it is 1.8 million with all those cars, buses, trains, planes, air conditioners, heaters,etc. that make big cities hotter as the grow.
But to you, unless it comes from a George Soros approve site, it just did not happen!!!

Severe cold in North India, Delhi shivers at 2.4 degrees Celsius: Monday, January 07, 2013

Zeenews Bureau

New Delhi: Cold wave and harsh weather conditions continue to throw life out of gear in North India with the minimum temperature dipping to 2.4 degrees Celsius in the national capital on Monday.

Though the minimum temperature in Delhi improved partially from Sunday’s 1.9 degrees to 2.4 it still remains five degrees below normal. Making the mater worse, icy-winds forced people to stay inside their homes in Delhi.

Although visibility remained normal, the early morning fog disrupted rail and air traffic. At least 16 trains have been cancelled, 11 have been rescheduled and around 70 trains are running late.

Most of the affected trains are between the northern and the northern-eastern sector.

At the Indira Gandhi International Airport, seven international and nine domestic flights have been delayed due to fog with the runway visibility less than 100 metres.

However, the Metrological Department has announced that people will get some respite from cold winds which are expected to weaken soon and the temperature set to rise in Delhi and surrounding areas.

The cold weather conditions are likely to continue in Punjab, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Meanwhile, the temperature has also dropped to a record low in Poonch district in Jammu & Kashmir with mercury dipping well below the minus and water freezing at various places in the district. It was the coldest day of Poonch in the last 35 years.

On Sunday, life across the North India region was hit by bone-numbing cold and the toll climbed to well over 100 with at least 16 more people dying in Uttar Pradesh.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/severe-c...

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#149976 Apr 9, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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There is a difference between local local local and global global global, Rogue.
And, has the earth cooled or warmed or stayed put in the last 35 years? 6th request for a reply yet you keep coming up with local weather freaks.
Why does the press tout NASA-GISS but not NASA-MSFC? because GISS promotes Man Made Global Warming and the Progressive agenda.
Dr. James Hansen just retired from GISS last week. WHY??? He has become just a political hack and has been totally discredited by things like Climategate but the press ignore that little fact.
One the fact he has been arrested about six times over the past two years of which two arrests were in front of the White House. How can Dr. Hansen do subject scientific observations if he believes in man-made GW? HE CAN'T!!! But that will not stop you Libtards from gulping his red Kool Aide!

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#149977 Apr 9, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between local local local and global global global, Rogue.
And, has the earth cooled or warmed or stayed put in the last 35 years? 6th request for a reply yet you keep coming up with local weather freaks.
The Earth started to warm in the late 1950's and it was caused by Solar Cycle #19 which was the most active solar cycle ever recorded with 400 years of sunspot counting. It ended forty years later with Solar Cycle #23. Solar Cycle, the current solar cycle, is the coldest solar cycle in 100 years and Dr. Hathaway, NASA-MSFC (the real NASA) is forecasting that the solar cycles will be SUB-normal for 20-50 years!!!
So, to answer your "35 year" question, it warmed and is now cooling and it never had anything to do with anything mankind has been doing!

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#149978 Apr 9, 2013
Libtardian Logic dictates that anything found new, is 1) evil and 2) caused by mankind.
Twenty years ago they found frogs that were growing extra legs and the Libtards claimed that it was being caused by man-made pollution. It turned out to be a life cycle of a parasitic worm and had nothing to do with mankind.
In the late 1970's we sent up our first polar-orbit satellites and found there was holes in the Ionosphere over the North and South Poles. The Libtards promptly decided it was caused by .... man-made pollution (CFC's). After the winter of 1991-92 we had our largest recorded hole over our North pole and the Libtards demanded action so the passed a law in Congress banning CFC's and Bush-41, signed it into law fearing he would be labeled an anti-environmentalist!!!
The following winter the ozone hole over the North Pole returned to normal even though we continued to make CFC's for a few more years. Oh,,,,,, the cause of the ozone hole in 1991-92 was the .... Eruption of Mount Pinatubo in June 1991 and had nothing to do with CFC's!!!
Yep, to Libtards, mankind is evil. Yes, at the local level we can muck-up a local environment but on the global scale, mankind is insignificant.
Oh, if we are so powerful, why don't we just plug all of the volcanoes?!?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149979 Apr 9, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
The birth certificate has the raised seal on it. A White House Correspondent stated that she felt it, and it is clearly visible on the short-form birth certificate (which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their birth certificates every year).

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

(See the third photo from the top.)

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

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#149980 Apr 9, 2013
Another Idiotard ends up in ..... Cuba. This idiot, and his current wife, abduct his two kids and disappear on a small sailboat and of all the places they go, is to Cuba.
Most likely Cuba will return to two kids to the U.S. sooner than later but what about the guy and his wife? Will they be allowed to stay in Cuba? I am not sure but even if they are allowed to stay, they will not be treated as tourists.
I know you Libtards think Cuba is a great place to live but only if you have ..... money and they probably don't have much. And when they do return to the U.S., they will spend a long time in prison. His kids will probably be adulats before their day sees the light of day.

Kids abducted in Fla. custody case taken to Cuba
by Doug Stanglin on Apr. 09, 2013, under USA TODAY News

Source: USA TODAY

A Florida couple suspected of kidnapping their two sons from the woman’s parents in Tampa have fled by boat to Cuba, according to Florida authorities.

The boys had been living since last year with their maternal grandparents, who were granted permanent custody a week ago.

The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office alleges that Joshua Michael Hakken entered his mother-in-law’s house north of Tampa on Wednesday, tied her up and fled with his sons, 4-year-old Cole and 2-year-old Chase.

The Hillsborough Sheriff’s office has issued an arrest warrant for Hakken on charges of kidnapping and several other counts.

He lost custody of his sons last year after a drug possession arrest in Louisiana, and he later tried to take them from a foster home at gunpoint, authorities have said.

Authorities have previously characterized the Hakkens as “anti-government.”
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2013/...

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#149982 Apr 9, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Bush Republicans are antidemocratic with an attraction to authoritarianism.
Liberals are always trying to enfranchise citizens and Bush Republicans always try to block some citizens from voting.( BLACKS & Latinos )!
Liberals defend the Constitution and long standing institutions like Social Security and Medicare.
Bush Republicans want the USA to go back to the Gilded Age and privatize Social Security and undo “The New Deal”!
Most if not all Bush Republican supporters are not conservatives. They are Neo-Cons who are apologist for the wealthiest top 1% percentile.
They have been thoroughly bamboozled for the last 30 years of rightwing propaganda and corrupt corporate mainstream media filter, which they believe is liberal!
Sincerely,
Eric Arthur Blair
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TEXAS REPUBLICAN SENATOR PHIL GRAMM & ENRON MANIPULATING OIL PRICES./ Michael Greenberger, Former Director, Commodities Future Trading Commission 1997-1999.
Michael Greenberger discusses the role of unregulated oil speculators on the buying and selling of oil futures. He says legislation passed in 2000 created an environment where oil speculators influence the current day price of oil and other crude products.
WASHINGTON, DC: June 24, 2008
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/062408G...
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President Eisenhower once noted that a few Texas oil millionaires wanted to abolish social security
http://tinyurl.com/bp7h8 / Nov. 8, 1954
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp
Hummm, did you notice the reference to .... GEORGE SOROS on the top of page $? It should also be noted that Michael Greenberger is a loony-left Keynesian too!
It is obvious you hate Big Business in general and BIG OIL in particular and that you are a socialist!!!
By the way, if trading in oil is evil, than is trading in other commodities evil too? Commodities are liquidity to the markets.
But the biggest factor in Big Oil is the COUNTRIES that control 90% of all the oil on this entire Earth.
I bet you can not name just ONE of the ten largest petroleum companies on this Earth?!?

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#149983 Apr 9, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh good. Dufus Dale's play law is back for another run.
All these weeks in the basement and no new material? Poor pathetic Dale
Oooo, Learn to Read wrote a paragraph. Well, sort of. When you are unable to enter into an intellectually honest discussion, you attack you opponent!!! How sophomoric can you get!!!
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#149984 Apr 9, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The birth certificate has the raised seal on it.
Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149985 Apr 9, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!
Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Re: "Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!"

Answer: Just because Mitt Romney showed a web image of a photocopy of a short form BC from Michigan that claims that he was born in Michigan, does not make it true. And George Bush did not show anything to prove that he was really born in the USA, nor did Clinton or Bush41 or Carter or Ford or Nixon or LBJ or JFK, etc.

Obama's short form and long form birth certificates are more proof than any of them have shown, especially with the repeated confirmation of the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties, including the former Republican governor (a friend of Sarah Palin's) and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii, and, duh, the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from the nearest foreign country.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149987 Apr 9, 2013
Re: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"

The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

(See the third photo from the top.)
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149988 Apr 9, 2013
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country BOTH (1) the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH would ALL have to be lying (also the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley), AND (2) Obama’s relatives would have had to have had enough money (and Obama's American grandfather was only a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii from Kenya on free flights) and be willing to waste it sending their pregnant only daughter on a trip ALONE to a foreign country (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at high risk (the rate of stillbirths were high at the time)—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
Learn to Read

Shelbyville, IN

#149989 Apr 9, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Oooo, Learn to Read wrote a paragraph. Well, sort of. When you are unable to enter into an intellectually honest discussion, you attack you opponent!!! How sophomoric can you get!!!
Intellectually honest? Should I paste in volumes of rants about global warming or the St Louis pitching staff or blocking vs charging or any other of the multitude of available blather that has no pertinence to the Birfoon fable? Is that considered "intellectual" in Birfistan? Why don't you get a plane with a really big window, open it all the way and practice some aerobatics?
Learn to Read

Shelbyville, IN

#149990 Apr 9, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"

The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate, but it is visible on the short form birth certificate, and that is sufficient because, duh, the short form birth certificate is the OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

(See the third photo from the top.)
Tacky still fantasizes that no raised seal is visible on the COLB... You could show him 4,358 separate high resolution photos of the raised seal on the long form and he'd just rock back and forth faster and faster while chanting "there is no semi black President, there is no semi black President"
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149992 Apr 9, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>On page 26 of "Dreams from My Father(whoever that was)" Obama mentions having a copy his (Kenyan)Birth Certificate. He must have accidently shredded that one?
And how do you explain the certified copy of the original smuggled out of Kenya in 2008 by Lucas D. Smith?
Dr. Alan Schecter swearing he delivered the little turd in Mombassa?
Granny Sarah Obama stating repeatedly she was present for the birth? The timely death of Granny Dunham?
Killing OBL on the eve of Keyes v. Obama Citizenship?
Re: "On page 26 of "Dreams from My Father(whoever that was)" Obama mentions having a copy his (Kenyan)Birth Certificate. He must have accidently shredded that one?"

Answer: No. He lost it. Millions of people lose the birth certificates that were sent to their parents. That is why DOH's send copies. The DOH of Hawaii sent the short form to Obama in 2007 and the long form to Obama in 2011---and each time the officials of Hawaii confirmed that they did.

Re: "And how do you explain the certified copy of the original smuggled out of Kenya in 2008 by Lucas D. Smith?"

Answer: It is a forgery, done by a man who had previously been convicted of forgery, and who merely claimed to have gone to Kenya, and who has refused every single request for him to show proof that he had ever gone to Kenya.

Re: "Dr. Alan Schecter swearing he delivered the little turd in Mombassa?"

Answer: It is a birther LIE.

Re: "Granny Sarah Obama stating repeatedly she was present for the birth? "

Answer: She NEVER said that she was present for the birth. Birther sites simply cut off the tape just BEFORE she was asked "where was he born?" She answered that question by saying repeatedly "In Hawaii" but birther sites did not quote her. So that was another birther lie.

Re: "The timely death of Granny Dunham?"

Answer: She died at the age of 86 of cancer after a long battle against it. Who told you that it was "timely?" Why did you believe that claim?

Re: "Killing OBL on the eve of Keyes v. Obama Citizenship? "

Answer: If you are referring to Keyes v. Bowen, that was thrown out in 2009, and the California Supreme Court refused to review the case in 2011.

The "born in Kenya" story is still the nuttiest of the nutty birther stories. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and of them only seven were US citizens? And did you know that the government of Kenya said that it had checked and that Obama was not born there?

When the government of Kenya says that Obama was NOT born there and the government of Hawaii (officials of both parties) says that Obama WAS born there, and it would have cost $10,000 in 2013 dollars to get from Hawaii to Kenya and back in 1961 and Obama's relatives did not have that kind of money (and wouldn't have spent it on such a risky trip if they did), then what makes you believe a "birth certificate" from a former convicted forger that claims that Obama was born in Kenya?

What makes you believe birther sites that say that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that she was present at his birth in Kenya, when the transcript shows that she said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii? Do you like to be thought of as gullible?
Learn to Read

Shelbyville, IN

#149993 Apr 9, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you like to be thought of as gullible?
He's a Birfoon. The entire concept of thought is foreign to him
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#149994 Apr 9, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: "Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!"
Obama's short form and long form birth certificates are more proof
You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#149995 Apr 9, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!"
The raised seal is not visible on the long form birth certificate,
Finally you admit the truth, thanks.

You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!

Psst, just because a SHEEPLE said it doesn't mean it is true, especially when you can't see it with your own eyes!
Why don't you post a a link to a copy of the LFBC where your LYING EYES think you see it and tell us exactly where on the copy your delusional brain thinks it is located, HOLLA!

Too bad that your lie can't be proven with a fraudulent birth certificate that contains no raised seal of authentication and a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp.
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#149996 Apr 9, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so desperate and dumb!
I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!
...
The original has NEVER been produced in any court!
The fraud was born in Kenya, Poopoo stain!
Obama is not even American, much less Black or Natural Born.
Re: "I did not ask you anything about the short form because we all know if the long form birth certificate is fraudulent, and it is, SO IS THE SHORT FORM PIECE OF GARBAGE!"

Answer: Neither are fraudulent.

Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

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