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#149914 Apr 8, 2013
Now on this fact check article just addresses Obama's travels for 2010 and does not compare it to any year in which Bush was in the White House.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/the-travelin...
I have a friend that travels from Jacksonville to LA four times a year with his wife. They leave on a Friday and stop in ... Las Vegas and then Monday morning continue of to LA. By that afternoon they have finished their business in LA and fly back to Jacksonville. And all their travel expenses between her and there are ... tax deductible.
Obama does much the same thing. He makes one political speech and that justifies his whole trip$$$$

Since: May 10

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#149915 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
Bush Republicans are not conservative and Clinton Democrats are not liberal!
They all work for Wall Street and K-Street not Main Street!
Ron Paul Authentic Conservative
http://tinyurl.com/3ldue3
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
Ralph Nader Authentic Liberal
http://tinyurl.com/2powf
http://www.votenader.org
Oil & Gas: Money to Congress
http://tinyurl.com/67oymj
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary...
You are right in that Bush Republicans are Country Club RINOs but Clinton Democrats are Blue Dog moderate Liberals (not socialist/Progressives.
Ran and Ron Paul are not Conservatives but Libertarians which are ultra-Liberal of social and Religious issues.
The rest of you points are jiberish.

Since: May 10

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#149916 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
You are much smarter than that Jacques.
Talk is cheap and both parties talk a great game but always vote in the interest of Wall Street and against main street.
The Gays and Abortion are only wedge issues.
Follow the money and it almost always leads to the truth.
I do believe the Democrats are the lesser of two evils BUT STILL EVIL.
http://www.opensecrets.org/
Have you noticed where Democrats get their money from? And you think Big Oil and Wall Street are evil but also that the AFL&CIO, ACORN, New Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. are good?!?
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#149917 Apr 8, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you noticed where Democrats get their money from? And you think Big Oil and Wall Street are evil but also that the AFL&CIO, ACORN, New Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. are good?!?
The only people who are against UNIONS AFL/CIO are the un-American CEOs who outsource American jobs.

Yes Acorn is good and was set up by a couple of corporate rightwing assassins.

Once a politician leaves office they are allowed to tell the truth.

==========

They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze

Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#149918 Apr 8, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right in that Bush Republicans are Country Club RINOs but Clinton Democrats are Blue Dog moderate Liberals (not socialist/Progressives.
Ran and Ron Paul are not Conservatives but Libertarians which are ultra-Liberal of social and Religious issues.
The rest of you points are jiberish.
Absolutely wrong on this one.

Clinton Democrats are corporate centrist and NOT Left of Center.

Republicans are WAY WAY FAR FAR Right.
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#149919 Apr 8, 2013
This song was published in 1983 when Reagan and Bush were in charge.

---------

Union Sundown
Well, my shoes, they come from Singapore,
My flashlight's from Taiwan,
My tablecloth's from Malaysia,
My belt buckle's from the Amazon.
You know, this shirt I wear comes from the Philippines
And the car I drive is a Chevrolet,
It was put together down in Argentina
By a guy makin' thirty cents a day.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, this silk dress is from Hong Kong
And the pearls are from Japan.
Well, the dog collar's from India
And the flower pot's from Pakistan.
All the furniture, it says "Made in Brazil"
Where a woman, she slaved for sure
Bringin' home thirty cents a day to a family of twelve,
You know, that's a lot of money to her.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work.
I say, "Why you say that for
When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?"
They don't make nothin' here no more,
You know, capitalism is above the law.
It say, "It don't count 'less it sells."
When it costs too much to build it at home
You just build it cheaper someplace else.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, the job that you used to have,
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador.
The unions are big business, friend,
And they're goin' out like a dinosaur.
They used to grow food in Kansas
Now they want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw.
I can see the day coming when even your home garden
Is gonna be against the law.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Democracy don't rule the world,
You'd better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that's better left unsaid.
From Broadway to the Milky Way,
That's a lot of territory indeed
And a man's gonna do what he has to do
When he's got a hungry mouth to feed.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Copyright ©1983
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/union-sundown

American Lady

Danville, KY

#149920 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
This song was published in 1983 when Reagan and Bush were in charge.
---------
Union Sundown
Well, my shoes, they come from Singapore,
My flashlight's from Taiwan,
My tablecloth's from Malaysia,
My belt buckle's from the Amazon.
You know, this shirt I wear comes from the Philippines
And the car I drive is a Chevrolet,
It was put together down in Argentina
By a guy makin' thirty cents a day.
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
Well, this silk dress is from Hong Kong
And the pearls are from Japan.
Well, the dog collar's from India
And the flower pot's from Pakistan.
All the furniture, it says "Made in Brazil"
Where a woman, she slaved for sure
Bringin' home thirty cents a day to a family of twelve,
You know, that's a lot of money to her.
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work.
I say, "Why you say that for
When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?"
They don't make nothin' here no more,
You know, capitalism is above the law.
It say, "It don't count 'less it sells."
When it costs too much to build it at home
You just build it cheaper someplace else.
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
Well, the job that you used to have,
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador.
The unions are big business, friend,
And they're goin' out like a dinosaur.
They used to grow food in Kansas
Now they want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw.
I can see the day coming when even your home garden
Is gonna be against the law.
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
Democracy don't rule the world,
You'd better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that's better left unsaid.
From Broadway to the Milky Way,
That's a lot of territory indeed
And a man's gonna do what he has to do
When he's got a hungry mouth to feed.
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
Copyright ©1983
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/union-sundown
TRUE about the unions

Good post WITHOUT the presidents named!
WHY did ya have to DO that?

They were going by CONGRESS ... dumchit!
Aren't WE past those administrations!

Reagan's WAS great!
BOOMING 80's PROVE THAT!
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#149921 Apr 8, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
TRUE about the unions
Good post WITHOUT the presidents named!
WHY did ya have to DO that?
They were going by CONGRESS ... dumchit!
Aren't WE past those administrations!
Reagan's WAS great!
BOOMING 80's PROVE THAT!
Reagan started the degradation by weakening our American Unions so the average family has to work harder and longer.

==========

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American Lady

Danville, KY

#149922 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Reagan started the degradation by weakening our American Unions so the average family has to work harder and longer.
==========
Can You Afford To Retire? Video / http://tinyurl.com/h8xdx
The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/retir...
American Lady
Danville, KY
1 min ago

Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The Unions priced the US worker out of the labor market.

AL said:
Exactly ... "thugs" ARE they ...!!!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#149923 Apr 8, 2013
Call me Crazy wrote:
It’s almost an insult to our intelligence, to ask us to believe that Obama is a US citizen. He has a schizophrenic timeline of unexplained foreign travel, a list of aliases, and uncomfortable friendships with communists and hostile governments.
We can drop this debate over his birth certificate because we have something even more valuable. We have his mother’s passport files.
Stanley Ann Dunham’s passport files were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and then posted online.(Strunk v. US Department of State)
When Obama was young, children traveled as an addition to their parents’ passports.
Passport regulations required a photo of parent and child together, as well as a certified copy of a hospital birth certificate. State-issued IDs came much later.
If Obama was born in the United States, as everybody says, then there should be a photo of little Barack Obama with his mother, as well as a certified copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate in her file.
Great moniker, but the fact is we’re well aware of State Dept records concerning young Barack and we also know the State Dept was well aware of young Barack’s POB. And yes this memo means the State Dept in fact had young Obama’s BC. You know, the old black one with the white print.

Memorandum to file
A 14 128 294
Sept. 14, 1967
Pursuant to general inquiry from Central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouses’ child by a former marriage.
THE PERSON IN QUESTION IS A UNITED STATES CITIZEN BY VIRTUE OF HIS BIRTH IN HONOLULU, HAWAII ON AUG. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He [redacted with xxxx's] is considered the applicants stepchild, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to child’s mother on March 15, 1965.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35192432/Allen-v-US...

Oh yeah, you’ll find that on page 37
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#149924 Apr 8, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
American Lady
Danville, KY
1 min ago
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The Unions priced the US worker out of the labor market.
AL said:
Exactly ... "thugs" ARE they ...!!!
AL, Only people like Ebenezer Scrooge are against the Unions.

==========

Back to the 1880s
This is not the first time that America has looked as if it was about to succumb to what might be termed the British temptation. America witnessed a similar widening of the income gap in the Gilded Age. It also witnessed the formation of a British-style ruling class. The robber barons of the late 19th century sent their children to private boarding schools and made sure that they married the daughters of the old elite, preferably from across the Atlantic. Politics fell into the hands of the members of a limited circle—so much so that the Senate was known as the millionaires' club.
Yet the late 19th and early 20th centuries saw a concerted attempt to prevent America from degenerating into a class-based society. Progressive politicians improved state education. Philanthropists—many of them the robber barons reborn in new guise—tried to provide ladders to help the lads-o'-parts (Andrew Carnegie poured millions into free libraries). Such reforms were motivated partly out of a desire to do good works and partly out of a real fear of the implications of class-based society. Teddy Roosevelt advocated an inheritance tax because he thought that huge inherited fortunes would ruin the character of the republic. James Conant, the president of Harvard in 1933-53, advocated radical educational reform—particularly the transformation of his own university into a meritocracy—in order to prevent America from producing an aristocracy.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#149925 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
AL, Only people like Ebenezer Scrooge are against the Unions.
==========
Back to the 1880s
This is not the first time that America has looked as if it was about to succumb to what might be termed the British temptation. America witnessed a similar widening of the income gap in the Gilded Age. It also witnessed the formation of a British-style ruling class. The robber barons of the late 19th century sent their children to private boarding schools and made sure that they married the daughters of the old elite, preferably from across the Atlantic. Politics fell into the hands of the members of a limited circle—so much so that the Senate was known as the millionaires' club.
Yet the late 19th and early 20th centuries saw a concerted attempt to prevent America from degenerating into a class-based society. Progressive politicians improved state education. Philanthropists—many of them the robber barons reborn in new guise—tried to provide ladders to help the lads-o'-parts (Andrew Carnegie poured millions into free libraries). Such reforms were motivated partly out of a desire to do good works and partly out of a real fear of the implications of class-based society. Teddy Roosevelt advocated an inheritance tax because he thought that huge inherited fortunes would ruin the character of the republic. James Conant, the president of Harvard in 1933-53, advocated radical educational reform—particularly the transformation of his own university into a meritocracy—in order to prevent America from producing an aristocracy.
Ask Michigan THAT!
AND Wisconsin!:)

***Look at Illinois unions ...

The Michigan right-to-work battle, explained
Posted by Sean Sullivan on December 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

The latest front in the battle between Republicans and organized labor is Michigan, where activists in Lansing recently began protests against a measure that would make the state the 24th in the nation to adopt a right-to-work law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...

***Laying blame – union bosses also culpable for pension crisis
ArticleSource Mar 21, 2013 –

The Stockton crystal ball: what a pension guarantee will do to Illinois ... But in terms of looking out for state employees, union leaders have failed miserably.... They should have been insisting all along that the state catch up as quickly ... of pensions that are underfunded by more than $200 billion under new ...

http://illinoispolicy.org/blog/blog.asp...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#149926 Apr 8, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
The only people who are against UNIONS AFL/CIO are the un-American CEOs who outsource American jobs.
Yes Acorn is good and was set up by a couple of corporate rightwing assassins.
Once a politician leaves office they are allowed to tell the truth.
==========
They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze
Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6
Well, when unions demand compensation higher than the companies can afford, they move to Right to Work states, not overseas.
The reasonS why companies are moving overseas is we have the highest business taxes in the whole world and the EPA and OSHA have over regulated.
And profits are not evil. If there is not profit, why should a company exist? Should a farmer sell his crops at the cost and the he would have no money for his family. Why don't athletes play for free?
By the way, just look at inside the US. Jobs are moving from none-right-to-work states to right-to-work states and that is all?
Oh, do you know why two years ago Alabama's unemployment numbers were one percent ABOVE the national average but today they are one percent BELOW the national average??? No you don't f-ing know because you are a stupid bigot!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#149928 Apr 8, 2013
Oh, 30% of Obama's investment into "green jobs" have gone bankrupt. If Bane Capital had had that same rate, Bain would have gone belly up too!!!
Our government needs to stay out of venture capitalism as if it is not a good deal for the private sector, it is not a good deal for the American taxpayers!!!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#149929 Apr 8, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
..........
Very simple!!! All the passport office would have to say is that there is no record of her leaving or entering the United States during that period of time.
But the fact is the the U.S. Senate vetted Senator John McCain but did not even attempt to vetted Senator Obama.
The US Senate did not vet McCain Rogue. How many times must one explain that to you? The issue of McCain’s eligibility was in question because of where he was born. His POB was the issue but no one ever asked to see his BC.

Obama on the other hand was a NBC by virtue of being born in the states and never had an eligibility issue. A fact the congress has always known and the ignorant birfoon has yet to grasp.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#149931 Apr 8, 2013
FROM: Progressive Radio Network

Obama Is the Driving Force Behind Cutting Your Social Security

Official budgets, be they from the President or one house of Congress, are non-binding statements of principle. They are how that group wants to see the country operate in the next few years. Despite what defenders of Obama may claim this budget is in fact no different. It is not about “negotiating.”

In Obama’s ideal world old people would see their Social Security benefits cut. Even though the pension system is disappearing and the 401k system has proven to have significant issues, Obama still feels one of the biggest problems in the country he needs to address is the fact that old people have it too good.

... While Republicans like to talk a big game on entitlements they have shown no real interest in cutting benefits for current retirees, who are the most important part of their base.

They even expanded entitlements under Bush and they purposely set their Medicare plan to not affect anyone over age 55. Republicans didn't even include chained-CPI in their House budget.
The single biggest driving force behind trying to cut your Social Security in Washington is President Obama.

At every turn Obama has worked hard to keep the idea alive despite it is a horrible idea that is incredibly unpopular. This is not something Obama is being forced to accept, it is what he has been pushing for.

Read more: http://prn.fm/2013/04/08/obama-is-the-driving...
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
Truman

Orofino, ID

#149932 Apr 8, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
The US Senate did not vet McCain Rogue. How many times must one explain that to you? The issue of McCain’s eligibility was in question because of where he was born. His POB was the issue but no one ever asked to see his BC.
Obama on the other hand was a NBC by virtue of being born in the states and never had an eligibility issue. A fact the congress has always known and the ignorant birfoon has yet to grasp.
" ....REFUSES to grasp."
Truman

Orofino, ID

#149933 Apr 8, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, when unions demand compensation higher than the companies can afford, they move to Right to Work states, not overseas.
The reasonS why companies are moving overseas is we have the highest business taxes in the whole world and the EPA and OSHA have over regulated.
And profits are not evil. If there is not profit, why should a company exist? Should a farmer sell his crops at the cost and the he would have no money for his family. Why don't athletes play for free?
By the way, just look at inside the US. Jobs are moving from none-right-to-work states to right-to-work states and that is all?
Oh, do you know why two years ago Alabama's unemployment numbers were one percent ABOVE the national average but today they are one percent BELOW the national average??? No you don't f-ing know because you are a stupid bigot!!!
Really Idaho has been a Right To Work state since the 1980's.
We have one of the highest unemployment rates in the Nation and our schools are about 48th out of 50....this is pretty much all under the wise oversite of a completely Republican legislature.
(Of course our hard working Republican Congressmen Larry Craig recently tried to exercise his Right To Work on an anonymous crotch in a Minneapolis Men's room...that unfortunetly belonged to an undercover cop...THAT didnt work out so well....im sure you can look up the details....our GOP legislature hard at work for the Idaho working family.
Is Hypocrisy a congenital condition on the Right?)
Truman

Orofino, ID

#149934 Apr 8, 2013
Just for trivia sake I would also like to point out that Larry Craig and Helen Chenoweth(R-Idaho) were at the head of the pack squalling for Clinton's impeachment back in the day over the Monica Lewisnski scandal....Chenoweth at the time was having an affair with a married man.
Sarah Palin went to college here...kind of figures doesnt it?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#149935 Apr 8, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
The US Senate did not vet McCain Rogue. How many times must one explain that to you? The issue of McCain’s eligibility was in question because of where he was born. His POB was the issue but no one ever asked to see his BC.
Obama on the other hand was a NBC by virtue of being born in the states and never had an eligibility issue. A fact the congress has always known and the ignorant birfoon has yet to grasp.
Where was John McCain born and who were his parents? He was born in the Panama Canal Zone which was U.S. Territory and both of his parents were U.S. citizens. Why they did not ask to see his birth certificate, I have no idea. But Panama is a Spanish speaking country but McCain's birther certificate is in ENGLISH! Do you know why???
And Obama's place of birth is still NOT confirmed and one of his parents was NOT a U.S. citizen!!!

McCain's Birth Abroad Stirs Legal Debate
By Michael Dobbs,May 02, 2008

The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States.

That is the good news for the presumptive Republican nominee, who was born nearly 72 years ago in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, then under U.S. jurisdiction. The bad news is that the nonbinding Senate resolution passed Wednesday night is simply an opinion that has little bearing on an arcane constitutional debate that has preoccupied legal scholars for many weeks.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2008-05-02...

Tell us poopo, did the Senate pass a resolution for Obama's NBC status? He was a senator, wasn't he?!?

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