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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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It is okay for you Libtards to keep your heads buried in the snow so you will not know when your azzes freeze off.

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I usually did not get to excited when a new daily record has been set and even when a new monthly record is set. But when they start talking about a new ALL TIME record, I pay attention.
Oh, those Down-Under have their winters when we are having our summers. So not only are they upside down, they are azz back wards too!

New record for New Zealand's coldest day
Published: July 12, 2011

Scientists working through climate reports say they have found the coldest day recorded to date in New Zealand.

The new official low of minus 25.6 degrees Celsius was recorded at Ranfurly in Central Otago in 1903, replacing the previous record of minus 21.6 which was Ophir in Central Otago in 1995.

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) scientists made the discovery while looking at temperature records being entered into the National Climate database.
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NZ – Snow hits farmers big time
Following a reasonably benign winter, the Southland region of New Zealand (NZ) has in the past week been hit by “the worst spring storm in living memory” according to the NZ Herald. Six days of blizzards have caused deaths among new lambs numbering in the hundreds of thousands, and raised concern over the welfare of ewes yet to lamb.

Besides the effect of the cold weather itself, the continued snowfall has not allowed snow on the ground to thaw, making it much harder for stock to feed. This makes ewes about to lamb particularly susceptible to metabolic illnesses from a lack of nutrients.

Reportedly, lamb mortality in the area may be as high as 15% for some farmers. With average prices for lambs expected to be around NZ$80/head this season (NZ Herald), the financial loss to NZ producers will be significant, estimated to exceed NZ$50 million (NZ Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry).

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It does not have to get down to the freezing level for water buffalo to die of cold exposure. They are not as cold tempered as other breeds of cattle.

10,000 Cattle Dead In Vietnam: Cows, Buffalo Part Of Mass Die-Off: 01/21/11

In the latest of a string of mass animal deaths, 10,000 cows and buffalo have died in Vietnam.

Vietnam's Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development confirmed the news this week that more than 10,000 cows and buffalos died nationwide due to harsh weather conditions.

Cattle have been dying throughout Vietnam, which has had a particularly intense winter. The northern mountainous province of Cao Bang was hardest hit with 2,260 dead cattle, per Thanh Nien News. Some have said the number of total dead cattle may be as high as 13,000.

Mass animal deaths have been in the news quite a bit lately. Hundreds of birds were found dead in South Dakota early this week, and before that birds were found dead in Italy and birds fell from the sky in Arkansas, among other incidents.

Some of the mass die-offs have been explained - for instance, indigestion is thought to be the cause in Italy and the U.S. government has admitted involvement in the South Dakota case. But others remain up for debate.

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This is just as stupid as the Republican senatorial candidate that said a woman who got rape could not get pregnant if she did not want to. But the difference between a Democrat and a Republican, Democrats will accept stupidity!

Colorado Democrat Doesn't Realize Magazines Can Be Reloaded

To date, this is the most glaring example of the ignorance behind gun control legislation. During a panel discussion, hosted by the Denver Post, Rep. Diana DeGette told the panel and the audience the following:
What’s the efficacy of banning these magazine clips? I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now, they’re going to shoot them. And so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high-capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available.
In her world, magazine are filled with bullets, and once those bullets are shot, the magazine is useless.
And she writes laws.
The Denver Post noted the audience found her comment amusing, but others, not so much:
After her remarks, the audience in the forum at The Denver Post building chuckled.
Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith, responding as the audience was laughing, urged people who hadn’t shot a gun to “get to the facts … Let’s be educated as we make this decision.”
The National Rifle Association was not quite as diplomatic Wednesday in response to DeGette’s comments.
“Two words — pretty stupid,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.
The Colorado GOP responded, too, on Wednesday.
“It’s extremely alarming that Rep. DeGette is running federal legislation to ban magazine clips, when she doesn’t even know what a magazine clip is,” said spokesman Owen Loftus.“Rep. DeGette’s comments show that Democrats are more concerned with appeasing their radical base, than standing up for responsible, law abiding citizens.”
Rep. DeGette’s office said she just “misspoke.”
Sure, she’s been working on this for years, but when it came time to really explain why this would work, she just told everyone magazines were one time use items. Anyone could make that mistake, right?
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And today continues Rogue Moron's years long meltdown.

Very sad to watch indeed.

“Reduce immigration levels”

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Sheriff Joe's Lead Investigator; Every Obama Document Is Plagued With
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Hannity Attempts To Debate Whether Birther Issue Is Racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Hannity Unloads On Birther Chris Matthews: Obama Cocaine & Racist Reverends
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Sheriff Joe's Lead Investigator; Every Obama Document Is Plagued With
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Hannity Attempts To Debate Whether Birther Issue Is Racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Hannity Unloads On Birther Chris Matthews: Obama Cocaine & Racist Reverends
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate.

The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
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And it is highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.(Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)

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What a sicko, Bill Moyers says out Pledge of Allegiance is a lie, but "next time they say the Pledge of Allegiance" they should remember it's a lie!!! Who is the hypocrite?!?
If you make a pledge, swear an oath, etc. and do not mean it, you are a hypocrite!!! But that is okay with you Libytards.

Bill Moyers:‘The Pledge of Allegiance is a Lie’
Taxpayer-funded PBS personality says pledge ‘makes the hypocrisy go down easier.’: 4/3/2013

Veteran journalist Bill Moyers told his viewers on March 29 that the next time they say the Pledge of Allegiance, they should “remember: it’s a lie. A whopper of a lie.” Bill Moyers’s “Moyers & Company,” which included the snippet, airs on taxpayer funded PBS.

“We coax it from the mouths of babes for the same reason our politicians wear those flag pins in their lapels – it makes the hypocrisy go down easier, the way aspirin helps a headache go away.”

In a flurry of finger pointing, Moyers called out former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, as well as former Vice Presidential Candidate Paul Ryan and the company Halliburton for obstructing justice and trampling on the less fortunate.

“’Justice for all’ is a line item in the budget – sequestered now by the Paul Ryans of Congress and the Fix the Debt gang of plutocratic CEOs who, with a wink-wink from our president, claim,‘Oh, we can’t afford that!’”

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Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate.
The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!

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Ellen1 wrote:
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And it is highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.(Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
Where did Obama get the money to attend Harvard and Columbia? How about his trip abroad in 1981?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
So, how can the birther "experts", who also saw only the Web images, claim that it is forged????

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And today continues Rogue Moron's years long meltdown.
Very sad to watch indeed.
What is sad is all you can do is make troll comments as you are totally incapable of engaging in any sort of an intellectually honest discussion.
Yep, all I have is an associates degree in aeronautics and I am still way above your level.
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Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
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Tell us where in the US Constitution any of the documents birfoons drool over make one a "natural born citizen."

Moreover, since when would an internet image be used in court to determine place of birth? The courts use only official hard-copy documents. Why do birfoons, like Sheriff Clown Boy's Cold Cut Pansies, refuse hard-copy documents?

Sorry, Rogue Moron, but this fake issue is dead. Only the few remaining birfoons still care and no one gives a shite what you think.

You are good for some hearty guffaws, though.

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Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
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So, how can the birther "experts", who also saw only the Web images, claim that it is forged????
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
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Tell us which INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT EXPERT has been allowed to examine any of Obama's "documents"? A jpeg posted on the internet is NOT a document!!!
So how come the birther "experts"---who also have only seen the Web images---have CLAIMED that it is forged?

They claim that it is forged because they want people to believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii. THAT is the reason that they claim that it is forged, not that they believe that it is forged.

And there are plenty of experts who have seen the same Web image that they did who say that it is not forged.

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country BOTH (1) the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH would ALL have to be lying. And (2) Obama’s relatives would have had to have had enough money (and his American grandparents were by no means rich. His grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) and be willing to waste it sending their pregnant only daughter on a trip ALONE to a foreign country (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at the risk of stillbirth (whose incidence was high at the time)—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
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Where did Obama get the money to attend Harvard and Columbia? How about his trip abroad in 1981?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
His trip abroad was paid for by the rich parents of a fellow student at Occidental. And by 1980 the family was much better off than it was in 1961. Obama's grandmother had by then become a vice president at the bank, and finally there are such things as ACADEMIC scholarships.

In any case, Obama's family CERTAINLY was not rich enough to throw away the equivalent of ten thousand dollars on sending their pregnant daughter to Kenya (or a lesser sum for any other country) at high risk of stillbirth (which had a high incidence in those days)-----when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu.

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Tell us where in the US Constitution any of the documents birfoons drool over make one a "natural born citizen."
Moreover, since when would an internet image be used in court to determine place of birth? The courts use only official hard-copy documents. Why do birfoons, like Sheriff Clown Boy's Cold Cut Pansies, refuse hard-copy documents?
Sorry, Rogue Moron, but this fake issue is dead. Only the few remaining birfoons still care and no one gives a shite what you think.
You are good for some hearty guffaws, though.
Well, it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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His trip abroad was paid for by the rich parents of a fellow student at Occidental. And by 1980 the family was much better off than it was in 1961. Obama's grandmother had by then become a vice president at the bank, and finally there are such things as ACADEMIC scholarships.
In any case, Obama's family CERTAINLY was not rich enough to throw away the equivalent of ten thousand dollars on sending their pregnant daughter to Kenya (or a lesser sum for any other country) at high risk of stillbirth (which had a high incidence in those days)-----when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu.
Have you ever seen a rational pregnant 18 year old woman?
Next, do you have any proof Obama received any sort of scholarship other than one for a foreign student?

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