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Rogue Scholar 05

Jacksonville, FL

#149074 Mar 28, 2013
Zattat wrote:
youtube.com/watch... E ……
Obama is a Kenyan Born Ape Monkey.....
Learn to Read wrote:
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Come on Rouge. Remind your buddy that he's half-white. We know how important that fact is to you
Sorry, I am not in Pennsylvania. I hate cold weather.
Speaking of cold weather, we are having our second frosty morning in a row here in Florida. And we broke our daily high record by FIVE degrees. Not a new monthly record but we are at the end of March.
Yep, frost in Florida in late March. Something ain't right here!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#149075 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Zattat wrote:
youtube.com/watch... E ……
Obama is a Kenyan Born Ape Monkey.....

Sorry, I am not in Pennsylvania. I hate cold weather.
Speaking of cold weather, we are having our second frosty morning in a row here in Florida. And we broke our daily high record by FIVE degrees. Not a new monthly record but we are at the end of March.
Yep, frost in Florida in late March. Something ain't right here!
Ahhhh. You are only allowed to correct a fellow Birfoon if you can reach out and touch them? Explains the "special attention" you and Romper gave each other before he ran away

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#149076 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
http://tinyurl.com/yh3xdku

The only problem it is not a violation of the Constitution to lie. It is however a CRIME to commit perjury in a Federal court and a Federal Grand Jury as did Bill Clinton did. But I noticed you did not list Bill Clinton. WHY?
Learn to Read wrote:
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Perhaps because they DID impeach Clinton?
Yep, a simple majority of Republicans in the House did impeach Clinton. But in the Senate you need a super majority to convict and not on Democrat in either house voted to impeach/convict Clinton.
Yep, Democrats are use to sleeping with pigs.
And again, lying is not impeachable unless the lying is done under oath. LBJ did not lie under oath but Bill Clinton did .... TWICE!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#149077 Mar 28, 2013
Oh oh, girl fried is awake. She must have smelled the coffee.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149078 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
http://tinyurl.com/yh3xdku
<quoted text>
The only problem it is not a violation of the Constitution to lie. It is however a CRIME to commit perjury in a Federal court and a Federal Grand Jury as did Bill Clinton did. But I noticed you did not list Bill Clinton. WHY?
I didn't draw the list and if I did, I would not have included him as his so-called "crime" didn't cost billions and didn't kill anyone or give comfort to the enemy by supplying him with support and arms.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149079 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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My girl friend did not work last night and now she is napping! And what did you do last night? Play with yourself?
So, no reply, except the above puerile one,(am I surprised you have nothing?). Obsessed with Clinton's appendage, obsessed with gays, obsessed with skin colour and now obsessed with me playing with myself. Wow, keep stokin' that fertile imagination with more horse manure, Rogue, and if you run out as you surely shall, use your own.

Again, for those who haven't seen it :

Rogue : "Chiles waited 3 to 5 days to ask for federal aid following catastrophic Hurricane Andrews";

Jacques : "Can you prove it?"

Rogue : "YOU prove it".

Rogue : More oil spills by train than pipelines . FALSE
Rogue : ICBMs have 3 warheads, max. FALSE
Rogue : Coal can't be carried by pipeline. FALSE
rOGUE : Chiles waited 3 days before summoning Federal help. FALSE

Is that a record for being wrong so often in just one day , Rogue? And I may have missed one or two. How oome you have nothing except inane childish replies?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149080 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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My girl friend did not work last night and now she is napping! And what did you do last night? Play with yourself?
Let me get this straight. The girl friend works a night shift, she sleeps in. Oooookay. Today, the girl friend DOESN'T work a night shift, she still sleeps in? Hmmm, you are not too fast, now are you? You don't get the hint? Will she have to utter "Not tonight, dear, I have a headache?" for it to sink in? LMAO (LRS tm reg'd) Is she homeless and has nowhere else to go?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149082 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Let's try and be a little more civil here. Lay off the racist comments.
YOU remonstrate? YOU who told us about the Obama puffer boys who had their front teeth removed so they could not bite him? And had false dentures made so they could hide the gap? YOU who told that joke insinuating that Michelle Obama is a bitch? Then YOU dare to tell pigs likek Zattat to watch their language?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149083 Mar 28, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Perhaps because they DID impeach Clinton?
Exactly. Rogue is on a "wrong again" losing streak.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149084 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Zattat wrote:
youtube.com/watch... E ……
Obama is a Kenyan Born Ape Monkey.....
<quoted text>
Sorry, I am not in Pennsylvania. I hate cold weather.
Speaking of cold weather, we are having our second frosty morning in a row here in Florida. And we broke our daily high record by FIVE degrees. Not a new monthly record but we are at the end of March.
Yep, frost in Florida in late March. Something ain't right here!
Wrong again, you change the subject. No one notices. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149085 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh oh, girl fried is awake. She must have smelled the coffee.
Is she truly smelled the coffee, she'd get the hell outta there.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149086 Mar 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh oh, girl fried is awake. She must have smelled the coffee.
Cappuccino, Espresso, Macchiato? Anything else is dishwater.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149087 Mar 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Is she truly smelled the coffee, she'd get the hell outta there.
Corr : If she truly smelled the coffee, she'd get the hell outta there.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#149089 Mar 28, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>People are not born gay, it is a learned behavior.
Gays deserve every right of heterosexual couples except the right to say that they are married, because marriage is between a man and woman.
They have what could be termed an (un)civil union.
Welcome to America moron. They have the right to say whatever they want. They can even say that they're from Kentucky - although why anyone would admit that escapes me.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149092 Mar 28, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
People are not born gay, it is a learned behavior.
Gays deserve every right of heterosexual couples except the right to say that they are married, because marriage is between a man and woman.
They have what could be termed an (un)civil union.
You wrote : "People are not born gay, it is a learned behavior."

Yup, the height of ignorance.

Let's say I have a choice between straight and gay. I live in Saudi Arabia where gays are executed. Bad choice. Or I lived during the Inquisition where gays were burned at the stake. Bad choice. Or I lived in Canada or the US or Europe where, as little as 30 years ago, society would shun me, humiliate me, and I could never get the lowest security clearance allowing me to work for the govt or defence-related firms. Well, GB, you tell me why anyone would be fool enough, under the aforementioned circunstances, to choose homosexuality. Have you never heard of the Y and X chromosones?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#149093 Mar 28, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
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Your post is pure fiction that is not supported by any legal non-fraudulent evidence.
Natural born US citizens aren't born in Kenya of only one US parent.
Heh, have you ever seen another birth certificate issued by Hawaii DOH containing that one-of-a-kind error like Obama's did?
tXe?
By the way, I can see myself possibly voting for a future President born in Canada of just one US parent thanks to Obama's usurpation.
Won't that just be lovely?
And you wonder why your repetitious and platitudinous posts are deleted by Topix? Really?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#149095 Mar 28, 2013
Spamming Loser wrote:
<quoted text>
People are not born gay, it is a learned behavior.
Gays deserve every right of heterosexual couples except the right to say that they are married, because marriage is between a man and woman.
They have what could be termed an (un)civil union.
I see how a complete idiot could think something like that.
Fantastic job confirming your deep-seated hatred and bigotry, Kentucky Klown Kar.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#149096 Mar 28, 2013
Rouge hereis some thing t think about

Ships Costing U.S.$37 Billion Lack Firepower, Navy Told

The U.S. Navys troubled Littoral Combat Ship, a vessel intended to be small and speedy for use in shallow waters close to shore, lacks the firepower it needs, a top U.S. navy commander said in a classified memo.

Vice Admiral Tom Copeman, the commander of naval surface forces, called on the Navy to consider a ship with more offensive capability after the first 24 vessels are built, according to a Navy official who asked not to be identified discussing the confidential document.

Copemans memo, prepared late last year at the request of Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the chief of naval operations, indicates the Navy may be starting to re-examine the $37 billion program. A review could lead to an eventual redesign of the ship or the development of an entirely new vessel.

Hes raising issues which no one with active-duty stars on their shoulders has said before, said Norman Polmar, an independent naval analyst and author whos spoken to Navy officials about Copemans memo.Hes not playing the total party line. I think it will have an impact on people expressing their views.

Producing a ship that can accommodate larger guns or Harpoon anti-ship missiles would be a major redesign, Polmar said in an interview.It will be real work to put major weapons on the ship.

The Littoral Combat Ship -- derided by critics inside the Navy as the Little Crappy Ship-- has been beset by troubles since 2005 as the price doubled to $440 million per vessel

Two Versions

Two versions are now being built: A steel-hulled vessel made in Marinette, Wisconsin, by a team led by Lockheed Martin Corp.(LMT)(LMT), and an aluminum trimaran built in Mobile, Alabama, by a group led by Austal Ltd.(ASB)(ASB) Lockheeds first ship developed a crack in the hull, and Austals vessel had corrosion problems.

Conceived in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the ship was designed to replace aging frigates and other vessels. Its intended to perform missions such as clearing mines, hunting submarines, interdicting drugs and providing humanitarian relief.

Nothing has haunted the LCS more than the perception that both variants are too lightly armed and may not survive an enemy attack. The Pentagons chief weapons tester has cited flaws with the ships guns and concluded that its helicopter isnt powerful enough to tow mine-hunting equipment.

The ship is not expected to be survivable in that it is not expected to maintain mission capability after taking a significant hit in a hostile combat environment, Michael Gilmore, the weapons tester, said in a January report.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#149097 Mar 28, 2013
part 2

Designed for Speed

Until now, Navy officials have maintained that the ship has sufficient defenses to perform its missions while working in tandem with the rest of a battle group.

These ships are designed for speed, Rear Admiral Tom Eccles, deputy commander for naval systems engineering at the Naval Sea Systems Command, said at a Surface Navy Association conference in January.Theyre designed to be in the fight and then get out of the fight when its required.

Copemans assessment suggests that the Navy may rethink that strategy. In a speech at the same Navy association conference, Copeman spoke publicly about the possibility of creating a Super LCS, likening it to the evolution in fighter jets from the F/A-18 Hornet to the Super Hornet. The newer plane is a larger version of the aircraft built by Chicago-based Boeing Co.(BA), with longer range and more endurance than its predecessor.

The vice admirals memo calls for a vessel that can operate independently rather than traveling under the protection of better-armed ships, according to a government official familiar with the document who isnt in the Navy and asked to not be identified.

Were Out-Gunned

Its born of this nagging fear in the surface warfare community and elsewhere that were out-gunned by the Chinese, who have a series of surface-to-surface missiles, said Bryan McGrath, a retired naval officer who commanded a destroyer.

Outfitting the LCS with heavy-duty missiles or guns would add weight, and additional weight means a loss in both speed and endurance, said McGrath, a critic of the Littoral Combat Ship who is director of consulting at Delex Systems Inc. in Herndon, Virginia.

The Navy projects that the $37 billion program will buy 52 ships. Of those, four have been built and the Navy has agreed to buy 20 more through 2015.

Were committed to 52 LCSs, Captain Danny Hernandez, chief spokesman for Greenert, the chief of naval operations, said when asked about Copemans memo.

Thoughtful Look

Lockheed, based in Bethesda, Maryland, is building its Littoral Combat Ships in partnership with Marinette Marine Corp., a subsidiary of Fincantieri SpA, based in Trieste, Italy. The other version is made by Austal, based in Henderson, Australia, in partnership with Falls Church, Virginia-based General Dynamics Corp.(GD)

Greenert requested the memo from Copeman, which was entitled Vision for the 2025 Surface Fleet and was previously reported by Defense News. The comments on the LCS are three paragraphs in a 10-page document on the future of the Navys surface fleet.

He appreciated the thoughtful look he gave into the future, Hernandez said of Greenerts reaction to the memo. He said the Navy chief considered Copemans proposals to be interesting and useful.

Those who have read Copemans recommendation offered differing interpretations of the changes he envisions. While the Navy official who asked to not be identified said the current LCS designs could be revised, the other government official said the proposed changes would amount to developing a new type of ship.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#149098 Mar 28, 2013
part3

Offensive Power

Theres inexpensive ways, less expensive ways, to dramatically increase the offensive power of our surface fleet, I think, without spending hundred, tens and tens of millions of dollars on research and development and come up with new classes of ships, Copeman said in the January speech, according to a transcript.I think we can look at what weve got, and what weve got on the drawing boards right now, and take great advantage of that.

Copemans memo didnt discuss whether one of the two current designs should be scrapped or whether just one version should be used as the base model for future improvements, the Navy official said.

Building both versions of the ship, which have different designs and parts, adds about $400 million in operating and maintenance costs over the lifetime of the vessels, according to Rear Admiral James Murdoch, who oversees the ships procurement.

To contact the reporter on this story: David Lerman in Washington at dlerman1@bloomberg.net

just think what that 37B could hav been used for like the food stamp program or other programns

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