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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#147668 Mar 19, 2013
Hummmm, now this is interesting. Look at that spike in the labor force for Alabama in early 2010. Why it spiked UP when they passed that law. I wonder why!!! None of the other states have that spike. I wonder why NOT?
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore...
Excuse me. It did not do that automatically. After you get the unemployment graph, go to the top left and click "labor force".

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#147669 Mar 19, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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The above is by far the dumbest political analysis I've ever ever encountered in my life. Yes, they were better off with Saddam . He was a tyrant and a killer, but a tyrant and killer we knew and could deal with. Never in his whole life, had he lived 100 years, could Saddam have killed as half as many people as have been killed since 2003. Oh,you're Catholic, right? Ask the Iraqi Catholics and protestants how they are faring since Saddam was taken out. 90% have left, the other 10% are hiding, cowering, persecuted. There was a Jewish community before 2003. Gone. There were nuns. Gone. No AlQaeda, no Taliban, no Iranians prior to 2003 in Iraq. Well, gee, thank you GWB, They are there now, killing Iraqis. Again today.
You don't like dictatorships and non-respect of human rights, Rogue? When GWB ran out of WMD excuses for his dumb Iraq invasion, he started to mouth off about tyranny and lack of human rights in Iraq. So, he invaded. Well, Rogue, based on that criterion, when do you plan to invade Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, The Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, N. Korea, Sri Lanka, and, oh , the big guys, Russia, and most of all China, where freedom, democracy and human rights shine bright, right?, unlike pre-2003 Iraq, no sirree.
You compare the US struggle for independence to Iraq? Contact LRS's two beautiful nurse girl friends and their doctor brother LMAO (LRS tm reg'd) for a mercy tranquilizer.
Another excellent post Jacques but Rogue couldn’t have possibly had his heart in the old Iraq is better off myth………. Could he?

Scores Killed on Eve of Iraq Invasion’s 10th Anniversary
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/world/middl...

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#147670 Mar 19, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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The above is by far the dumbest political analysis I've ever ever encountered in my life. Yes, they were better off with Saddam . He was a tyrant and a killer, but a tyrant and killer we knew and could deal with. Never in his whole life, had he lived 100 years, could Saddam have killed as half as many people as have been killed since 2003. Oh,you're Catholic, right? Ask the Iraqi Catholics and protestants how they are faring since Saddam was taken out. 90% have left, the other 10% are hiding, cowering, persecuted. There was a Jewish community before 2003. Gone. There were nuns. Gone. No AlQaeda, no Taliban, no Iranians prior to 2003 in Iraq. Well, gee, thank you GWB, They are there now, killing Iraqis. Again today.
You don't like dictatorships and non-respect of human rights, Rogue? When GWB ran out of WMD excuses for his dumb Iraq invasion, he started to mouth off about tyranny and lack of human rights in Iraq. So, he invaded. Well, Rogue, based on that criterion, when do you plan to invade Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, The Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, N. Korea, Sri Lanka, and, oh , the big guys, Russia, and most of all China, where freedom, democracy and human rights shine bright, right?, unlike pre-2003 Iraq, no sirree.
You compare the US struggle for independence to Iraq? Contact LRS's two beautiful nurse girl friends and their doctor brother LMAO (LRS tm reg'd) for a mercy tranquilizer.
Ah, and just who killed all those people between 2002 and 2004? Come on, show us who killed those people you frigging BIGOT???

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#147671 Mar 19, 2013
Hey Jacques, do you want to talk about how many unarmed people were killed in Vietnam AFTER the war ended? Who killed those people???

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#147672 Mar 19, 2013
Hue Massacre , Tet 1968
(An Excerpt from the Viet Cong Strategy of Terror, by Mr. Douglas Pike, p. 23-39)
(In Memory of the 7,600 civilians murdered in Hue by Vietnamese communists)
http://ngothelinh.tripod.com/Hue.html
Tomas Young

Alsip, IL

#147673 Mar 19, 2013
To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
Tomas Young

Alsip, IL

#147674 Mar 19, 2013
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.

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#147675 Mar 19, 2013
Now poor old Jacques thinks we Americans MURDERED 1.25 million Vietnamese. How sad!!!!

Perhaps of all countries, democide in Vietnam and by Vietnamese is most difficult to unravel and assess. It is mixed in with six wars spanning 43 years (the Indochina War, Vietnam War, Cambodian War, subsequent guerrilla war in Cambodia, guerrilla war in Laos, and Sino-Vietnamese War), one of them involving the United States; a near twenty-one year formal division of the country into two sovereign North and South parts; the full communization of the North; occupation of neighboring countries by both North and South; defeat, absorption, and communization of the South; and the massive flight by sea of Vietnamese. As best as I can determine, through all this close to 3,800,000 Vietnamese lost their lives from political violence, or near one out of every ten men, women, and children.1 Of these, about 1,250,000, or near a third of those killed, were murdered.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP6.HT...

Since: May 10

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#147676 Mar 19, 2013
Hey Jacques, how many Vietnamese were murdered AFTER we withdrew from Vietnam?

Deaths after U.S. withdrawal

Up to 155,000 refugees fleeing the final NVA Spring Offensive were killed or abducted on the road to Tuy Hoa in 1975. Sources have estimated that 165,000 South Vietnamese died in the re-education camps out of 1-2.5 million sent, while the number executed could have been as high as 200,000 (Jacqueline Desbarats estimates an absolute minimum of 100,000 executions). Rummel estimates that slave labor in the "New Economic Zones" caused 50,000 deaths (out of a total 1 million deported).[58][62] The number of Vietnamese boat people who died is estimated between 200,000 and 400,000, out of the 2.5 million that fled. There were also tens of thousands of suicides after the North Vietnamese take-over. Including Vietnam's foreign democide, Rummel estimates that a minimum of 400,000 and a maximum of slightly less than 2.5 million people died of political violence from 1975-87 at the hands of Hanoi. In 1988, Vietnam suffered a famine that afflicted millions.
Under the leadership of Pol Pot, the Khmer Rouge killed 1-3 million Cambodians in the killing fields, out of a population of around 8 million. The Pathet Lao killed some 100,000 Hmong people in Laos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casu...

Since: May 10

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#147677 Mar 19, 2013
Tomas Young wrote:
To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses,,,,,,,,,, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
Ah Thomas, I thought you were from Kansas City?

Since: May 10

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#147678 Mar 19, 2013
Actually I feel sorry for Thomas Young, where ever he is. He claims Cheney was a draft dodger, but it was Bill Clinton who was a draft dodger. And what exactly did Cheney have anything to do with sending anyone anywhere. As VeeP, he has no authority to do anything!
It was Owl Gore who got a drop out of Vietnam after only four months in country and John F-up Kerry spend four months and ten days and they gave him a drop because of two false Purple Hearts.
Oh, to qualify for a Purple Heart, the wound must be "combat related" and only one of his three PH's were combat related.

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#147679 Mar 19, 2013
From Wiki: According to Nixon Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, "I didn’t approve of what he did, but I understood the protesters quite well", and he declined two requests from the Navy to court martial Reserve Lieutenant Kerry over his antiwar activity.
Tomas Young

Alsip, IL

#147680 Mar 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah Thomas
Who's T"h"omas? Never heard of him.
Tomas Young

Alsip, IL

#147681 Mar 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And what exactly did Cheney have anything to do with sending anyone anywhere. As VeeP, he has no authority to do anything!
Cheney sent jets to shoot down passenger planes full of innocent Americans. Apparently HE gave himself the AUTHORITY to do that.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#147683 Mar 19, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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More sophisticated prose from the culture czar.
More mumbling from the spaz!
Tomas Young

Chicago, IL

#147684 Mar 19, 2013
"clueless" "spam" and "off-topic"

So this is how the right wing really treats the ones who die for this country.

I guess I should have fled to France and lived in a castle. Then I would be the republicans TRUE American hero.

Wee wee Oh hon hon hon

Since: May 10

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#147685 Mar 19, 2013
Mule Trading

Curtis & Leroy saw an ad in the Starkville Daily in Starkville , MS. and bought a mule for $100.

The farmer agreed to deliver the mule the next day.

The next morning the farmer drove up and said, "Sorry, fellows, I have some bad news, the mule died last night."

Curtis & Leroy replied, "Well, then just give us our money back."

The farmer said, "Can't do that. I went and spent it already."

They said, "OK then, just bring us the dead mule."

The farmer asked, "What in the world ya'll gonna do with a dead mule?"

Curtis said, "We gonna raffle him off."

The farmer said, "You can't raffle off a dead mule!"

Leroy said, "We shore can! Heck, we don't hafta tell nobody he's dead!"

A couple of weeks later, the farmer ran into Curtis & Leroy at the Piggly Wiggly grocery store and asked, "What'd you fellers ever do with that dead mule?"

They said, "We raffled him off like we said we wuz gonna do."

Leroy said, "Shucks, we sold 500 tickets fer two dollars apiece and made a profit of $998."

The farmer said, "My Lord, didn't anyone complain?"

Curtis said, "Well, the feller who won got upset. So we gave him his two dollars back."

Curtis and Leroy now work for the government.

They're overseeing the Bailout & Stimulus Programs.

Limit all U.S. politicians to two Terms.

One in office
One in prison


Since: May 10

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#147686 Mar 19, 2013
Tomas Young wrote:
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Cheney sent jets to shoot down passenger planes full of innocent Americans. Apparently HE gave himself the AUTHORITY to do that.
It is really sad that Terri Tunna has stepped down to become a drive by troll.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#147687 Mar 19, 2013
LRS wrote:
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LMAO!!!
Once again, no discussion of the facts.

It is still nutty to believe that Obama's relatives were rich enough (They weren't. Obama's American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank at the time, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk (incidents of stillbirth were high at the time) to a foreign country (and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated and Obama certainly was not born there)-----when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Oh, and btw, John McCain and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and Huckabee and Santorum and Gingrich and Ann Coulter and the National Review all believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii show.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#147688 Mar 19, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Once again, no discussion of the facts.
It is still nutty to believe that Obama's relatives were rich enough (They weren't. Obama's American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank at the time, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk (incidents of stillbirth were high at the time) to a foreign country (and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated and Obama certainly was not born there)-----when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Oh, and btw, John McCain and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and Huckabee and Santorum and Gingrich and Ann Coulter and the National Review all believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii show.
Arf Arf Arf...

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