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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#146895 Mar 13, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote : "No, I have always said it was mu opinion". That's a barefaced lie, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I've been sermoning you on unfounded statements for months now, still waiting for proof, it never comes. That last post, you seem to have gotten it. Want me to unearth a few gems that cleary show it was a statement and not an opinion?
Yes, go ahead!!!

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#146896 Mar 13, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I don't bash. I've said, but not harped on it, that the church hid the truth and transferred pedophile priests to unsuspecting parishes. It is not denied, it is the truth. That upsets you? Too bad, the truth does hurt. On religious matters, I have mostly quoted the bible, word for word, without comments. Why does that upset you? Don't you like the work of god as given to us through revelation?
The new pope I have of course never met, but knew of him whilst in Argentina. I believe he was opposed to the junta during what they called the "dirty war". That took guts. The regime had no qualms about "disappearing" people, torture of the worst kind and droppng them out of planes and helicopters. New pope seems okay, but is much too old. As to Ratzinger, I criticized his function as prelate of the Congregation of the Faith, yes, but never as pope. I guess he just left me totally indifferent.
Has The Church done that? Or was it a few bishops and cardinals? Yes, I am very upset that that Pope John Paul recalled Cardinal Bernard Law to Rome!!! Do you remember this? It is almost six years old but I have posted it before!!!
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/printedition/n...
Yes, I am T. Nadeau from Jacksonville, FL!

Since: May 10

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#146897 Mar 13, 2013
So he had to give up his red hat and ring. He was taken to Rome so he could have political immunity. This is one area I am very upset with The Church over. I don't care if they don't want a Cardinal in prison but if that is where he belongs, he should go and serve his time!
I will not donate one cent to the Catholic church as I don't want any of it to end up in Rome. I do donate to Catholic Charities though as the money must go to charitable work.

Bernard Francis Law - From Wikipedia

Bernard Francis Law (born November 4, 1931) is an American cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the Archbishop emeritus of Boston, a member of the Roman Curia, archpriest emeritus of the Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore, and titular Cardinal Priest of Santa Susanna, the American Catholic church in Rome.
Law resigned as Archbishop of Boston on December 13, 2002, in response to the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal after church documents were revealed which suggested he had covered up sexual abuse committed by priests in his archdiocese.
In 2004, Pope John Paul II appointed Law as Archpriest of the Papal Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome. Law resigned from this position in November 2011.

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#146898 Mar 13, 2013
I do believe (but have no proof) that a disproportional of priests have sexual deviant tendencies. Many people who have these problems go into psychology, or if they are religious, become priests, monks, etc. to work on their problems. Many people have crosses to bear and that is okay so long as they do not engage in deviant sexual behaviors to include pedophilia, homosexuality, bestiality, etc.
Now I will watch my child, grand children, etc. around people who have not proved to me they are safe and that include priests, boy scout masters, etc.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#146899 Mar 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yes, go ahead!!!
I just did, the Obama $35 million house. A rouse? What's that? So you believe anything you read in the newspapers? Repub tea bagger ahead in newspaper and you accept it and then proclaim, not give an opinion, proclaim that he'll win, and when he doesn't, proclaim that it was a fraudulent victory. You said, again today, that dems are more crooked than repubs at election time. You keep saying and stating and saying it, yet have as yet given zilch proof when asked for it.And the list goes on and on.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#146900 Mar 13, 2013
4 Dem Officials Plead Guilty To Election Fraud: Court Ordered DNA Samples
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“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#146901 Mar 13, 2013
Are Liberals/Democrats Demonstrably Mentally Ill?
http://www.westernjournalism.com/are-liberals...

Obama Lets China Steal Top Secret NASA Technology
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-lets-c...

Obamaville Song
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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#146902 Mar 13, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
4 Dem Officials Plead Guilty To Election Fraud: Court Ordered DNA Samples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ateAGCJ9FpQXX&feature=em- uploademail
How about these? Both sides do it. Wake up

www.bradblog.com/...

www.bradblog.com/...
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#146903 Mar 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I do believe (but have no proof) that a disproportional of priests have sexual deviant tendencies. Many people who have these problems go into psychology, or if they are religious, become priests, monks, etc. to work on their problems. Many people have crosses to bear and that is okay so long as they do not engage in deviant sexual behaviors to include pedophilia, homosexuality, bestiality, etc.
Now I will watch my child, grand children, etc. around people who have not proved to me they are safe and that include priests, boy scout masters, etc.
Rogue, it's not so much deviant priests because we find deviant people all over the place. Also, priests must remain celibate, which is just a plain stupid and unfair rule. Priests used to be able to marry, why'd they stop them? Guess. Certainly, for a healthy man to abstain from sexual activity his whole life is not realistic, so some, a minority, take their excess sexual frustrations onto unsuspecting and impressionable youngsters. That is condemnable, yes, but not as condemnable as the church hierarchy often ignoring the abuse in the past, or simply transferring deviant priests to unsuspecting parishes, some of them many times. THAT is the biggest boondoggle of all. And it's hard to believe, all this time, for the last 40 years, that Rome was unaware of what was going on.

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#146904 Mar 13, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I just did, the Obama $35 million house. A rouse? What's that? So you believe anything you read in the newspapers? Repub tea bagger ahead in newspaper and you accept it and then proclaim, not give an opinion, proclaim that he'll win, and when he doesn't, proclaim that it was a fraudulent victory. You said, again today, that dems are more crooked than repubs at election time. You keep saying and stating and saying it, yet have as yet given zilch proof when asked for it.And the list goes on and on.
Yes, I was taken with the Hawaiian house thing. Okay, I got taken.
No, I usually question things but i have messed up a few times.
But I will stand by my OPINION that the more Liberal you are, the more apt you are to do criminal things.
I worked with an alcohol and drug counselling center in German for a year and a half and every client there was also a tobacco user. That is right, every client used tobacco.
And officers and senior NCO who abused drugs tended to abuse legal drugs while the junior enlisted where more likely to abuse illegal drugs. We caught a Army colonel/doctor who was stealing morphine from the hospital for his own use. He did not get court-martialed for the drug abuse but he did get court-martialed for steeling the morphine.
We use to have junior enlisted men who would go to the Netherlands so they could smoke pot legally, mention it to someone, get called in for a pee test, fail it and fail rehab and they still get an honorable discharge but their reenlistment code indicated they were an alcohol and drug counselling failure. How if they got caught with the drugs in their possession, they would have been court-martialed and a dishonorable discharge. But they wanted out of the Army without the felon conviction.
Female soldiers who wanted out would just get pregnant.

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#146905 Mar 13, 2013
Oh, I had a 1SG who I thought was a bad NCO. He would put all the people he suspected of drug abuse in the same room. The young soldiers knew they were being pegged as druggies would just give up and go to Amsterdam and smoke pot and three months later they were out with an Honorable Discharge.
I think that many of the soldiers would not have gone that route if the 1SG had not labeled them a druggies.
When you are in a unit with 240 people and 10% are being discharged each year for rehab failures, somethings wrong. And in that case, it was the 1SG!

Since: May 10

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#146907 Mar 13, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue, it's not so much deviant priests because we find deviant people all over the place. Also, priests must remain celibate, which is just a plain stupid and unfair rule. Priests used to be able to marry, why'd they stop them? Guess. Certainly, for a healthy man to abstain from sexual activity his whole life is not realistic, so some, a minority, take their excess sexual frustrations onto unsuspecting and impressionable youngsters. That is condemnable, yes, but not as condemnable as the church hierarchy often ignoring the abuse in the past, or simply transferring deviant priests to unsuspecting parishes, some of them many times. THAT is the biggest boondoggle of all. And it's hard to believe, all this time, for the last 40 years, that Rome was unaware of what was going on.
Well, I to think celibacy for priests is counter productive. So if you want to be a Catholic priest, you must comply.
What I think is funny is that you have Roman Catholic priests becoming Episcopalian priests so they can marry a woman at the same time Episcopalian priests are going over to the Roman Catholic Church because they don't agree with gay/lesbian priests. They keep their wives and families but if their wife dies, they can not see other women.
So, yes, there are Roman Catholic priests who are MARRIED. But they came from the Episcopalian Church.

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#146910 Mar 13, 2013
And to partake in any sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church, like communion, you must be a Catholic in good standing. If you are and active gay/lesbian, sorry, you can not take communion.
You can be Roman Catholic, Episcopalian, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox or any of the Eastern Rights and you can take communion.
But if you are Buddhist, Muslim, protestant, etc., you can not take communion in a Roman Catholic Church. And Bill Clinton was wrong for taking communion in a Roman Catholic Church is South Africa and the Catholic priest who gave him the communion was equally wrong!

President Took Communion -- And Criticism
By JAMES BENNET: April 07, 1998

President Clinton took Holy Communion during a South African Mass late last month at the invitation of the local priest, White House officials said today in response to criticism that giving Communion to Mr. Clinton, a Baptist, violated Roman Catholic doctrine.

Mr. Clinton never receives Communion in Catholic churches in the United States. But Barry Toiv, a White House spokesman, said the priest, Father Mohlomi Makobane, told White House staff members before Mr. Clinton's visit to his Soweto church that ''this was the policy of the South African Conference of Bishops, that Communion was open to non-Catholics.''

No such lenient policy exists, the Southern African bishops declared late last week. In January, however, the bishops did issue rules that allow non-Catholics to receive Communion in certain special circumstances, and the Vatican has requested clarification of that policy.

Father Makobane told The Associated Press that Mr. Clinton's aides had asked before the Mass on March 29 if the President could receive Communion. Mr. Toiv said members of the White House staff had told Father Makobane that the President would probably not receive Communion, because he does not do so at Masses in the United States.

But Liberals do what they want and to hell with what the law/rules are!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#146912 Mar 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And to partake in any sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church, like communion, you must be a Catholic in good standing. If you are and active gay/lesbian, sorry, you can not take communion.
You can be Roman Catholic, Episcopalian, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox or any of the Eastern Rights and you can take communion.
But if you are Buddhist, Muslim, protestant, etc., you can not take communion in a Roman Catholic Church. And Bill Clinton was wrong for taking communion in a Roman Catholic Church is South Africa and the Catholic priest who gave him the communion was equally wrong!
President Took Communion -- And Criticism
By JAMES BENNET: April 07, 1998
President Clinton took Holy Communion during a South African Mass late last month at the invitation of the local priest, White House officials said today in response to criticism that giving Communion to Mr. Clinton, a Baptist, violated Roman Catholic doctrine.
Mr. Clinton never receives Communion in Catholic churches in the United States. But Barry Toiv, a White House spokesman, said the priest, Father Mohlomi Makobane, told White House staff members before Mr. Clinton's visit to his Soweto church that ''this was the policy of the South African Conference of Bishops, that Communion was open to non-Catholics.''
No such lenient policy exists, the Southern African bishops declared late last week. In January, however, the bishops did issue rules that allow non-Catholics to receive Communion in certain special circumstances, and the Vatican has requested clarification of that policy.
Father Makobane told The Associated Press that Mr. Clinton's aides had asked before the Mass on March 29 if the President could receive Communion. Mr. Toiv said members of the White House staff had told Father Makobane that the President would probably not receive Communion, because he does not do so at Masses in the United States.
But Liberals do what they want and to hell with what the law/rules are!
You wrote : "But Liberals do what they want and to hell with what the law/rules are! ".

You see what I meant? You don't say, "I believe, I think, I guess, from experience taht liberals...". You make a statement and there is absolutely no way you can prove that. No way. I did what you and Fed up just did. I went to google and typed "Republican election frauds" and came up with something like 30 pages. Same for dems.
Learn to Read

Columbus, IN

#146913 Mar 13, 2013
Socialistvirusscum wrote:
<quoted text>OK Doc!
Hi Cmor
Maude

Lynbrook, NY

#146914 Mar 13, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Yes i have heard of them. Waterboading is torture.
YES waterboading is a form of torture but it saves hundreds of lives,CHOPPING off peoples heads is something else.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#146916 Mar 13, 2013
Maude wrote:
<quoted text>YES waterboading is a form of torture but it saves hundreds of lives,CHOPPING off peoples heads is something else.
Allow me to correct you, Maude. It (waterboarding) is an "enhanced interrogation" tactic. Now, for what it's worth, I have no idea what "waterboading" is.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#146918 Mar 13, 2013
Figures wrote:
Grandma Obummer who has NEVER been called a liar by Obummer for her statements, she just has never been heard from again, like his sister or any one from his family who has contradicted the magical fantasy that is Oblunder!
Ron McRae: Amen. I am so thankful. Could I ask her, uh, about this, uh, his actual birthplace? I would like to see his actual birthplace when I, when I come to Kenya in December. Uh, was she present when he was, WAS SHE PRESENT WHEN HE WAS BORN IN KENYA?
Translator to Sarah Obama: Alikuma Zalima Obama (unintelligible)
Kweli Shuhubia: He was asking her, he wants to know something, WAS ah SHE PRESENT WHEN HE WAS BORN?
Translator: YES. SHE SAYS "YES SHE WAS!" SHE WAS PRESENT WHEN OBAMA WAS BORN
McRae: OKay
Then there is this for the doubting libtards
http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2011/0 ...
This is a pretty good read!
Exhibit "B"
United States District Court For The Eastern District of Pennsynvania
Affidavit Of Reverend Kweli Shuhubia
Bishop McRae asked Mrs. Obama specificly, "Where you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya?"
This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied, "Yes".
It appeared Mrs. Obama's relatives and her grandson, handling the translation, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with the purported information from the American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Dispute this, Mrs. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and she that was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, NOT THE UNITED STATES.
When Mrs. Obamas grandson attempted to counter his grandmothers clear response to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson, how she could be present at Barack Obama's birth if the senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead HE repeatedly tried to insert that, "No, no, no. He was in the United States!"
But during the conversation, Mrs. Sarah Hussein Obama NEVER changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
The truth of the matter is the judge found your childish drivel to be “RIDICULOUS, PATENTLY FALSE, FRIVOLOUS, NOT WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AND VENTURING INTO THE UNREASONABLE”

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#146919 Mar 13, 2013
Socialistvirusscum wrote:
Thanks Fed Up, here it is because you know no Libturd is going to actually read this before commenting!
Lol!
http://www.westernjournalism.com/are-liberals...
We have heard liberalism (aka Democrat-ism) described as a mental illness. A little research seems to prove this observation. You need not be a goateed psychiatrist with a German accent to conclude liberals/Democrats are anti-social misfits. See for yourself; see how well liberalism/Democrat-ism fits into the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) criteria for identifying the mentally maladjusted.
While we usually think of “Psychopaths” as the occasional notorious serial killers, they are more common than we imagine. Nevertheless, the unfortunate over use of the term “psychopath” in popular culture has led people to believe they only exist in movies. This isn’t true. Statistics tell us up to 3% of men and 1% of women are psychopaths. The majority of psychopaths find ways to restrain themselves, not for concern about us but for fear of being discovered and punished for doing the vicious things they want to do.
Some, not all but some, psychopaths go into politics, many as elected Democrats. Review this list of traits and keep Teddy Kennedy in mind.
The DSM IV lists these traits for psychopaths. N.B. it is not necessary to possess all of these traits to be a psychopath; a preponderance of them will do. Psychopaths are:
Selfish, callous, and remorseless in their use of others; they show:
Glibness/superficial charm (smooth-talking, engaging, and slick)
Grandiose sense of self-worth (greatly inflated idea of one’s abilities and self-esteem, arrogance and a sense of superiority)
Pathological lying
Conning/manipulative (uses deceit to cheat others for personal gain)
Lack of remorse or guilt (no feelings or concern for losses, pain, and suffering of others)
Emotional poverty (limited range or depth of feelings)
Callous/lack of empathy (a lack of feelings toward others; cold, contemptuous, and inconsiderate)
They fail to accept responsibility for own actions and live a chronically unstable, antisocial, and socially deviant lifestyle.
Moreover, psychopaths show these traits as well:
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom (an excessive need for new, exciting stimulation and risk-taking)
Parasitic lifestyle (exploitative financial dependence on others)
Poor behavioral control (frequent verbal abuse and inappropriate expressions of anger)
Promiscuity (numerous brief, superficial sexual affairs)
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility (repeated failure to fulfill or honor commitments and obligations)
Juvenile delinquency (criminal behavioral problems between the ages of 13-18)
Early behavior problems (before age 13)
Revocation of conditional release (violating parole or other conditional release)
Many short-term marital relationships (lack of commitment to a long-term relationship)
Criminal versatility (diversity of criminal offenses, whether or not the individual has been arrested or convicted)
Kennedy had at least fifteen of these traits. Pick another Democrat and see how well he/she matches up to these traits. They’re out there.
It’s funny how the ignorant birfoon can so easily diagnose his own psychotic behavioral patterns yet finds himself compelled to project his folly on others. He’s like the crazy man who’s been institutionalized and assumes it’s those on the outside who are nuts.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#146920 Mar 14, 2013
Maude wrote:
<quoted text>YES waterboading is a form of torture but it saves hundreds of lives,CHOPPING off peoples heads is something else.
How about that electric chair Maude? This chick certainly seems to be having an electrifying experience.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40...

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