BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#145057 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Another bad day for Rogue. Car sales in US up 7% in January. In spite of March 1 deadline past, DJIA is up about 40 points. Who will stop this diabolical Obama?
And just whom is responsible for the good news? Maybe the market likes sequestering?!?
And car sails for any month are compared to the same month the year before and maybe, just maybe, January 2012 was a bad month!
But the total for 2012 was 14.5 million autos as compared to .... 16 million for 2007!!! We've got a long way to get out of the woods.
Yes, we are still improving but at a snails pace. Thanks to Obamanomics!!!

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#145058 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Another bad day for Rogue. Car sales in US up 7% in January. In spite of March 1 deadline past, DJIA is up about 40 points. Who will stop this diabolical Obama?
Ah Jacques, what would the DJIA be if the sequester had been lifted with an increase in taxes?

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#145059 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Er, Rogue, about this Gore KKK business. Still awaiting proof. Also still awaiting where and when I said gun owners were deviants. Should be easy, no? Also, proof that 95% of gun killings are done by criminals. Hmmmm. Oh yeah,what about proof that Dems fraud more than Repubs come election time? Oh, you've already proved that? Really? Care to freshen up the proof?
And your retraction on the $35 million Obama Hawaii house for that day, November 6, 1012, when he'd be retired by Mitt offshore Romney.
What about that F-14? Found a website yet that says it didn't fly combat in Vietnam?
So many questions unanswered, so many outrageous statements not proved.
Give us a hint of the next one, Rogue. How about, hmm, Obama communicates secret information to the Russians and North Koreans by using his satellite-like ears as antennae? Or that Obama is actually Mao's and Jane Fonda's secret love child and is trying to turn over the U.S. to China? Lucky for him, GWB preparewd the terrain very thoroughly for him.
Awwwww, Rogue, where would we get our laughs if you didn't exist? We'd have to ask the birther clan to invent you, LMAO (LRs tm reg'd)
Jacques, Al Gore SENOR was a member of the KKK, a Dixiecrat and he not only vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1965, he participated in the filibuster against it!!!
The F-14 NEVER flew combat missions in support of the Vietnam War. Not one bomb, missile or canon round was fired or dropped by any F-14 in the Vietnam War!!! The sole purpose of the F-14's were to escort U.S. cargo aircraft engaged in humanitarian missions.
As far as the other comments, you are getting silly again.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#145060 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Hey, you just labelled Al Gore a KKK. For the third time, will you please back it up with irrefutable proof? If you can't, how dare you publicly sully someone's reputation just like that?
jakeleg, you're so confused! Ignorant but amusing. You should read about Al's good Uncle. LMAO!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#145061 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Another bad day for Rogue. Car sales in US up 7% in January. In spite of March 1 deadline past, DJIA is up about 40 points. Who will stop this diabolical Obama?
Personal wealth dropped 3.6%. The Obumbler at work! LMAO

Since: Mar 13

Istanbul, Turkey

#145062 Mar 1, 2013

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#145063 Mar 1, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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I did not know Jacques was a African-Canadian? If he was only using to describe black people, you would have a point.
That is why I use ghetto as people who live in ghettos are of all colors but they have the same lack of respect for other's rights.
Grow up. Your fig leaf is inadequate.

BTW, your buddy has used the term in reference to persons of African ancestry. Jacques called him on that. Grow a brain.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#145064 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you ever cease to be a racist apologist, not to mention a mean calumny-mongerer by, for example, stating that Al Gore was a KKK and yet, twice I asked for proof, twice no reply? I'll maintain he was not until you come up with foolproof evidence that Al Gore was a member of the KKK.
Rouge is referring to Al Gore Sr.
He thinks that's clever.
Life gate

Hollis Center, ME

#145065 Mar 1, 2013
Poor retarded birthers
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#145068 Mar 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Grow up. Your fig leaf is inadequate.
BTW, your buddy has used the term in reference to persons of African ancestry. Jacques called him on that. Grow a brain.
Don't speak for me you pencil-necked, zit-faced, ignorant, lying piece of roadkill. Epic infant! LMAO!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#145070 Mar 1, 2013
Study: racial prejudice plays role in Obama citizenship views
USA Today, April 27, 2011.
“Racial prejudice does play a role, suggests a study led by Eric Hehman of the University of Delaware in the March Journal of Experimental Social Psychology.”
“So, to tease out the influence of racial prejudice on perceptions of Obama's Americanism, the researchers asked 295 students, both black and white, to evaluate the performance and "Americanism" of the two politicians in late 2009. They also included six questions, widely used in psychology, to gauge whether folks are more or less prejudiced against blacks.”
“Whites higher in prejudice rated Obama as less American, and as performing more poorly as president.”
“Psychologist Jack Brigham of Florida State University, an expert in racial attitudes research who was not part of the study, says,‘the results strongly support a role of racism in the birther movement.’ He adds the racial attitude survey questions used in the study represent legitimate measures of prejudice used in psychology.”
“The results support recent research that prejudice expresses itself in American society in non-overt ways, sometimes in attitudes not even consciously held by people.”

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#145072 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, France, not Canada. I told you in my previous post. France and Great Britain. Canada as a nation never ever approved or maintained slavery, either practically or as a matter of policy.
The French founded Haiti with slaves, and many other Caribbean, Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean Island countries. Er,. Rogue, don't be like LRS (lol), Canada is NOT a part of France. It was a colony until 1759 and declared a British colony shortly after the Le Marquis de Montcalm, France, was defeated by Gen Wolfe (Great Britain) at the battle of the Plains of Abraham (Vile de Québec).
Splitting hairs again Jacques.
Oh, you do remember I am part French-Canadian so I am familiar with your history. Are you familiar with the Aroostook War? You azz-hole shot one of our pigs (the only war casualty of that war).

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#145073 Mar 1, 2013
"Hehman's study found that because social norms declare racial prejudice to be inappropriate, highly-prejudiced whites may seek alternative reasons for their lack of acceptance of Obama. According to Hehman, those whites may feel a need to legitimize their beliefs about Obama by attributing them to other factors, including certain un-American social policies."

http://www.udreview.com/news/grad-student-bir...

http://tinyurl.com/b223hf9

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#145074 Mar 1, 2013
Life gate wrote:
Poor retarded birthers
Oh oh, you used the r-word. I wonder if Jacques will slap you?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#145075 Mar 1, 2013
"'So-called birthers will justify questioning Obama's birthplace for any reason other than race, so as to avoid thinking they are racially biased,' he said."
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#145076 Mar 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
Study: racial prejudice plays role in Obama citizenship views
USA Today, April 27, 2011.
“Racial prejudice does play a role, suggests a study led by Eric Hehman of the University of Delaware in the March Journal of Experimental Social Psychology.”
“So, to tease out the influence of racial prejudice on perceptions of Obama's Americanism, the researchers asked 295 students, both black and white, to evaluate the performance and "Americanism" of the two politicians in late 2009. They also included six questions, widely used in psychology, to gauge whether folks are more or less prejudiced against blacks.”
“Whites higher in prejudice rated Obama as less American, and as performing more poorly as president.”
“Psychologist Jack Brigham of Florida State University, an expert in racial attitudes research who was not part of the study, says,‘the results strongly support a role of racism in the birther movement.’ He adds the racial attitude survey questions used in the study represent legitimate measures of prejudice used in psychology.”
“The results support recent research that prejudice expresses itself in American society in non-overt ways, sometimes in attitudes not even consciously held by people.”
USA Today is a joke.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#145077 Mar 1, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Playing on Topix is fun, not to mention educational. I know. I learn new words, new expressions daily. Today, and from literary gian Fed up, I just learned "sorrowly missed". Thank you, will add to my vocabulary and library of quaint expressions.
Orly Taitz has been mocked and laughed at more times than she can remember. Add today.
Orly Taitz is a mentally unblanced nut case

Since: May 10

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#145078 Mar 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
Study: racial prejudice plays role in Obama citizenship views
USA Today, April 27, 2011.
“Racial prejudice does play a role, suggests a study led by Eric Hehman of the University of Delaware in the March Journal of Experimental Social Psychology.”
“So, to tease out the influence of racial prejudice on perceptions of Obama's Americanism, the researchers asked 295 students, both black and white, to evaluate the performance and "Americanism" of the two politicians in late 2009. They also included six questions, widely used in psychology, to gauge whether folks are more or less prejudiced against blacks.”
“Whites higher in prejudice rated Obama as less American, and as performing more poorly as president.”
“Psychologist Jack Brigham of Florida State University, an expert in racial attitudes research who was not part of the study, says,‘the results strongly support a role of racism in the birther movement.’ He adds the racial attitude survey questions used in the study represent legitimate measures of prejudice used in psychology.”
“The results support recent research that prejudice expresses itself in American society in non-overt ways, sometimes in attitudes not even consciously held by people.”
Oh, I see several major flaws in this study. One, a greater number of whites are Republicans and many blacks do not believe that another black person can possibly be a racist. In fact many blacks do not consider affirmative actions for blacks to be a form of racism! In fact many believe that if you are against racial affirmative actions programs YOU are the racist.
It is just like the NAACP, they do not want to solve racism because once racism is gone, they will no longer be needed. Same goes for the EPA, OSHA, etc., they all must continue to find new problems.
Maude

Lynbrook, NY

#145080 Mar 1, 2013
abc wrote:
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Thats because most in her district smoke too much weed and other stuff, and enjoy sucking off the government teet. Pigs on a farm have more brains
I could'nt agree more.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#145081 Mar 1, 2013
kkk wrote:
REPEAL EXECUTIVE ORDER #13489
Hey you read this if you the brains to do it.
The Executive Order 13489 Myth

Another canon in birther mythology is the claim that Barack Obama signed an Executive Order his first day in office sealing his records.

While he did sign an executive order (Executive Order 13489), the truth of the matter is a bit different than what the birthers claim.

As in 180 degrees different.

On 18 January 1989, then-President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12667, which established policies and procedures to govern "Executive Privilege" from current and former Presidents in connection with their Presidential Records, which among other things allowed the Archivist of the United States to release those records unless, within 30 days from notification, the current or former President says "no".

On 5 November 2001, the-President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13233, which restricted those records for a period of 12 years after the President in question left office and increased the time to 90 days. In addition, it allowed the current President to override the requests of the former President in regards to those records. It specifically revoked Reagan's order of 18 January 1989.

So what did Obama's Executive Order 13489 do?

It is almost word for word an exact copy of Reagan's order of 18 January 1989, and has the effect of expanding access to Presidential records by specifically revoking Bush's order of 5 November 2001.

Here's the other thing that birthers don't seem to understand about Executive Order 13489.

It only applies to Presidential Records, not the records before one became president. And there's nothing in Executive Order 13489 that hides the pre-Presidential records at all.

It's interesting how the birthers could take something that is almost identical to what Ronald Reagan did in office, and turn it 180 to claim it's something it's really not.

The myth that Obama signed an order hiding his records? Busted.

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