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Ah, education, private and state pensions, police, none interstate highways, bridges, power poles, etc. are all, STATES OBLIGATIONS!!!
Tell me Jacques, beside DoD schools, name us ONE Federal elementary school, Middle School, High School, College, University?!?
Why should I,as a resident of Florida, have to pay for the pension of a school teacher, fireman, police officer, etc. in California?
Have you ever read the Tenth Amendment to our Constitution?
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
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So, you wrote : "Ah, education, private and state pensions, police, none interstate highways, bridges, power poles, etc. are all, STATES OBLIGATIONS!!!" . FALSE. They are state responsibilities, yes, but mostly funded from federal income and sales taxes. Do you think, do you really think that entire state budgets are solely funded by state taxes? You need to get out more, read a decent paper or two, watch a decent tv channel or two.
But you do pay for other states' benefits. You like to give the example of you funding someone in California. Well, you purchase a B-1, B-2, drones, all that armamenet, submarines and carriers and all, and then build highways that criss-cross the country, are you going to say the U.S. military will only protect the states that contribute the most to the federal treasury and, to push your looney reasoning even farther, that you can only use highways depending on the size of the states' contributions to the federal honey pot? For example, Rhode Island should only be able to use a fraction of the interstate highways as they are federeally funded. If a Rhode Islander wanted to drive to California, then my understanding is , he could only go as far as Massachussets or else hide and use back roads.
Ah, numerous points here. First of all the is NO Federal sales tax. Next, most states have a higher highway fuel tax than federal fuel tax so by buying fuel in other states, you help pay for their local roads and, hence, at allowed to travel on them.
Oh, does Canada have a different spelling for "Massachussets" than we do? I know we do for places like France and Germany. In fact we even pronounce them differently. But Massachusetts is spelled this way.
And then we get to the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 which states;
... so located as to connect by routes, as direct as practicable, the principal metropolitan areas, cities, and industrial centers, to serve the national defense, and to connect at suitable border points with routes of continental importance in the Dominion of Canada and the Republic of Mexico.
Please note "national defense"! Do you know who lead the first military convoy to cross our nation from coast to coast was? Captain (Bvt Lt Col) Eisenhower!!!
During WWII Gen. Eisenhower was impressed with Hitler's Autobahn system and decided we needed to provide for mobilization of our military! That is why the federal government got the authority to build the Interstate Highway system.

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When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.
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Yep, a year and a half ago I named my new puppy after him and called him Little Wojo!
Justus Liebig wrote:
<quoted text>Rouge is not worth naming anything after. I'll keep him in mind if ever I decide to name my toilet bowl.
Sorry, Little Wojo does knot no how to use a toilet. But just like Big Wojo he just pisses where ever he wants to.

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Several points here Tootzie. Ashcroft said he did not know what the threats were. Maybe he had a death threat from some loony-lefty.
And the person who wrote that article does knot no that inter-agencies do not "lease" form each other. As an Army aviator and having served in Flight Operations in a number of units, I have done missions for the Air Force, Navy and Dept of Transportation as well as other foreign countries.
In 1980 we would charge $2,000 per flight hour in a Chinook from within the Army,$3,000 per hour between U.S. government agencies and $6,000 per hour to foreign governments. No money changes hands, it is all accounting.
On one mission for Dept. of Trans. I had to recover a Cessna from a river. The plane was flying way to love over a river and hit power lines in a remote section of the river. We got there two days after the accident and, yes, the pilot was still in his seat.
There is NO lease. There is however a transfer of funds.
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The USS Stark Incident
http://tinyurl.com/3e7fx
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm
Joint Chiefs Aircraft Hijackings / June 2001
AIRCRAFT PIRACY (HIJACKING) AND DESTRUCTION OF DERELICT
AIRBORNE OBJECTS
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/...
And just what does that have to do with "leasing" between branches of our government?

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I have been saying that for years. Bill Clinton signed into law four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets, seven of the points of the Contract with America and the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997!!! And that snapped our economy back into the Black for Clinton's seconf term.
But the Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power and Dennis Hastert averaged $300 Billion over budget for seven years.
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You have the facts totally wrong my friend.
Newt Gingrich Republicans Destroyed America with Bill "Wall Street" Clinton.
Enclosed is PROOF:
1929 crash
2008 crash
McCain guru linked to subprime crisis / Republican Phil Gramm
3/28/08 / http://tinyurl.com/2ujo9b
The general co-chairman of John McCain’s presidential campaign, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil.
“A regulatory structure set up for banks in the 1930s needed to change because the nature of business had changed,” the Illinois senator running for president said in a New York economic speech.“But by the time [it] was repealed in 1999, the $300 million lobbying effort that drove deregulation was more about facilitating mergers than creating an efficient regulatory framework.”
Gramm’s role in the swift and dramatic recent restructuring of the nation’s investment houses and practices didn’t stop there.
A year after the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the old regulations, Swiss Bank UBS gobbled up brokerage house Paine Weber. Two years later, Gramm settled in as a vice chairman of UBS’s new investment banking arm.
Later, he became a major player in its government affairs operation. According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006.
During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages.
For his work, Gramm and two other lobbyists collected $750,000 in fees from UBS’s American subsidiary. In the past year, UBS has written down more then $18 billion in exposure to subprime loans and other risky securities and is considering cutting as many as 8,000 jobs. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/924...
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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Senate voted 90 yea 8 nay / http://banking.senate.gov/conf/
This proves beyond all doubt that both parties do not represent “We The People”!
http://banking.senate.gov/conf/
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...
On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...
Still, you have not addressed even one of my facts. Sad, very sad little troll.

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Yep, a year and a half ago I named my new puppy after him and called him Little Wojo!
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And that proves your fantasies?
Really?
Well yea, he's a Chihuahua with attitude.
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How do you like living in your fantasy-land?
Obama:'Trickle-down snake oil'
Obama said this during his event in New Hampshire of Romney:‘‘They have tried to sell us this trickle-down snake oil before. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now ... it’s not the right direction for America.”
**The Miami Herald’s Caputo:“Obamacare’s unpopularity blunts Obama’s attacks on Romney-Ryan Medicare plans.” From the story: Obamacare was supposed to be President Barack Obama’s legacy. But it’s looking like a political millstone.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/20...
**Obamacare’s unpopularity blunts Obama’s attacks on Romney-Ryan Medicare plans
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/20...
August 2012? News flash. November 6, 2012, President Obama reelected.

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They why does Obummer Boy close tax loop-holes? Instead, he will raise overall tax rates of which those with an income of only $25,000 will not have tax loop-holes for things like private jets.
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Obama is a corporate hack loser just like Bush,Cheney,Reagan and Clinton.
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FBI: 80% of Fraud Attributed To Insiders Not Homeowners
The increased reliance by both financial institutions and non-financial institution lenders on third party brokers has created opportunities for organized fraud groups, particularly where mortgage industry professionals are involved. Combating significant fraud in this area is a priority, because mortgage lending and the housing market have a significant overall effect on the nation's economy. All mortgage fraud programs were recently consolidated within the Financial Institution Fraud Unit, even where the targeted
lender is not a financial institution. This consolidation provides a more effective and efficient management over mortgage fraud investigations, the ability to identify and respond more rapidly to emerging mortgage fraud problems, and a better picture of the overall mortgage fraud problem./ http://www.lvamerica.com/USApdfs/FBI.pdf
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/financial/fcs...
Typical Libtardian response. Run, dodge and jump the issues. Sad, very sad little troll.
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I have been saying that for years. Bill Clinton signed into law four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets, seven of the points of the Contract with America and the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997!!! And that snapped our economy back into the Black for Clinton's seconf term.
But the Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power and Dennis Hastert averaged $300 Billion over budget for seven years.
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Still, you have not addressed even one of my facts. Sad, very sad little troll.
Did you read? Seems to me he not only answered them, he debunked them and proceeded to insert new FACT facts.

Do you EVER read other people's posts before replying?
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They why does Obummer Boy close tax loop-holes? Instead, he will raise overall tax rates of which those with an income of only $25,000 will not have tax loop-holes for things like private jets.
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Obama's Chicago Boys
June 12, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/a3jmp3r
Barack Obama waited just three days after Hillary Clinton pulled out of the race to declare, on CNBC, "Look. I am a pro-growth, free-market guy. I love the market."
Demonstrating that this is no mere spring fling, he has appointed 37-year-old Jason Furman to head his economic policy team. Furman is one of Wal-Mart's most prominent defenders, anointing the company a "progressive success story." On the campaign trail, Obama blasted Clinton for sitting on the Wal-Mart board and pledged, "I won't shop there." For Furman, however, it's Wal-Mart's critics who are the real threat: the "efforts to get Wal-Mart to raise its wages and benefits" are creating "collateral damage" that is "way too enormous and damaging to working people and the economy more broadly for me to sit by idly and sing 'Kum-Ba-Ya' in the interests of progressive harmony.
Obama's love of markets and his desire for "change" are not inherently incompatible. "The market has gotten out of balance," he says, and it most certainly has. Many trace this profound imbalance back to the ideas of Milton Friedman, who launched a counterrevolution against the New Deal from his perch at the University of Chicago economics department. And here there are more problems, because Obama--who taught law at the University of Chicago for a decade--is thoroughly embedded in the mind-set known as the Chicago School.
http://www.thenation.com/print/article/obamas...
Sooo, did you vote for Obama? If so, you got what you voted for!!!

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Did you read? Seems to me he not only answered them, he debunked them and proceeded to insert new FACT facts.
Do you EVER read other people's posts before replying?
Yes, and yes and I did comprehend what I read. You are the one that has a hard time with reading comprehension.

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<quoted text>Rouge is not worth naming anything after. I'll keep him in mind if ever I decide to name my toilet bowl.
If you look at the pictures, the bolts on the M1 Garand rifles are MISSING. Is Obummer Boy worried that one of the Marines might shoot him?
http://www.examiner.com/article/disabled-mari...
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Yes, and yes and I did comprehend what I read. You are the one that has a hard time with reading comprehension.
Oh yeah? What about those proofs of mine where you keep saying "I didn't see it?". You don't seem too good at reading those. In my year+ here in Topix, I have never ever NOT supplied proof when asked. I have never EVER not replied to a query. Can you say the same? I'm still waiting for a truthful reply on the F-14's combat role in Vietnam ( EVERY google/Wikipedia entry says it flew combat, Nov 74 to May 05). Also, still looking for your taking back the $35 million Obama Hawaii castle statement. And proof that dems tend to fraud more than repubs come election time. Let's see, oh yes, that 95% of firearms killings are done by criminals. The list grows, Rogue, hell, I've barely grazed it just now. Have you joined LRS and Sioux in that 2nd grade remedial reading class yet? Don't you think it's time you went back to Sunday school where they teach you that lying is a sin?
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If you look at the pictures, the bolts on the M1 Garand rifles are MISSING. Is Obummer Boy worried that one of the Marines might shoot him?
http://www.examiner.com/article/disabled-mari...
Er, Rogue, in view of the following :

1.1 Abraham Lincoln
1.2 James A. Garfield
1.3 William McKinley
1.4 John F. Kennedy

2 Failed assassination attempts
2.1 Andrew Jackson
2.2 Abraham Lincoln
2.3 Theodore Roosevelt
2.4 Herbert Hoover
2.5 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2.6 Harry S. Truman
2.7 John F. Kennedy
2.8 Richard Nixon
2.9 Gerald Ford
2.10 Ronald Reagan
2.11 George H. W. Bush
2.12 George W. Bush

3 Presidential deaths rumored to be assassinations

3.1 Zachary Taylor
3.2 Warren G. Harding

Even though this is another phantasm of yours, an envious one at that, Obama never gave the order to have the bolts removed on those WW 1 rifles. If he had, though, and considering the above list, who could blame him?

I do believe, in all of the above cases, that not one of the assassins or would-be assassins had a criminal record. Wonderful, those members of a "well-regulated militia". Like you and your NRA gun-nut ilk.

“Facts trump speculation”

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First Things First; Let’s Establish Who Jesus Is:
Question:“Who is Jesus Christ?”
Answer: Unlike the question “Does God exist?” very few people question whether Jesus Christ existed. It is generally accepted that Jesus was truly a man who walked on the earth in Israel 2000 years ago. The debate begins when the subject of Jesus’ full identity is discussed. Almost every major religion teaches that Jesus was a prophet or a good teacher or a godly man. The problem is that the Bible tells us that Jesus was infinitely more than a prophet, a good teacher, or a godly man.
http://beablessingsomehow.com/first-things-fi...
Huh?

I think you're in the wrong forum. this is the Birfoon Fantasy Forum.

Need directions?

Scholarship on the life of Jesus?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/opinion/T0UJP...
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Sorry, loser, birfoon bc fantasies are a joke.
If you have policy issues, UR in the wrong forum.
Sorry. This is the birfoon fantasy forum. Where fantasy joy ride to Kenya and return under Hogwarts invisibility cloak is the fable.
All because the three wise men prophesied his Presidency in the Kenyan grass hut.
Capisce?

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If you look at the pictures, the bolts on the M1 Garand rifles are MISSING. Is Obummer Boy worried that one of the Marines might shoot him?
http://www.examiner.com/article/disabled-mari ...
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Er, Rogue, in view of the following :
1.1 Abraham Lincoln
1.2 James A. Garfield
1.3 William McKinley
1.4 John F. Kennedy
2 Failed assassination attempts
2.1 Andrew Jackson
2.2 Abraham Lincoln
2.3 Theodore Roosevelt
2.4 Herbert Hoover
2.5 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2.6 Harry S. Truman
2.7 John F. Kennedy
2.8 Richard Nixon
2.9 Gerald Ford
2.10 Ronald Reagan
2.11 George H. W. Bush
2.12 George W. Bush
3 Presidential deaths rumored to be assassinations
3.1 Zachary Taylor
3.2 Warren G. Harding
Even though this is another phantasm of yours, an envious one at that, Obama never gave the order to have the bolts removed on those WW 1 rifles. If he had, though, and considering the above list, who could blame him?
I do believe, in all of the above cases, that not one of the assassins or would-be assassins had a criminal record. Wonderful, those members of a "well-regulated militia". Like you and your NRA gun-nut ilk.
Ah, and how many were done by military personnel? There is something called supervision. I did on several occasions recommend to my commander that certain soldiers not be allowed to draw arms. And I am sure if any commander in any of those units even remotely thought they might have a problem with any of their men, who make sure they were someplace else.
Now, can you show us a picture of anything similar to this at a Bush or Clinton event?

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Oh, I had a soldier who had been court-martialed and was waiting for a discharge but we had to go on a field exercise and I recommended to my commander that he not be issued a weapon and he was not. And a few days later he burned up a tent .... and a M880 truck (Dodge p/u). And I seriously doubt that if there was a parade like the Inauguration, he would have been back a base pealing potatoes at the mess hall.

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Oh, during WWII my father was a tail gunner on a Navy dive bomber and was on board the USS Bunker Hill during the Battle of Okinawa and the ship was hit by two Kamikaze and he was one of over 650, out of 2,500, that was a casualty.
The actor Paul Newman was also a tail gunner but in a different a squadron on the Bunker Hill and everyone in his squadron was killed except for him (of course) as he was in the galley pealing potatoes. And the question was why was Paul Newman in the galley pealing potatoes? No, he had not been a bad boy, his pilot had an ear infection and was grounded.
Since his plane could not fly, they sent him to the galley and he was the only survivor!
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/10/navy_ne...

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Oh, both Paul Newman and my father were in the Navy's V-12 program (ROTC) and both were bumped out probably because they needed them right then for the war effort. My father attended Navy boot camp at Quonset Point, RI and Paul Newman was at Portsmouth, RI but he was probably at Quonset Point too.
Both went to Jacksonville, FL for aviation training, my dad a gunner on Douglas Dauntlesses and Paul as a radioman/stinger gunner on Grumman Avengers and they both went to the Pacific after training.
My dad went to the Marshall Islands and Paul to NAS Barbers Point, Hawaii. In late Fall 1944 my dad's squadron converted to Curtiss Helldivers and went aboard the Bunker Hill at Puget Sound, WA.
Paul Newman was also in the Marshall Islands on Saipan (my father never told me which island in the Marshalls he was on) but it does not say when he went aboard the Bunker Hill.
To bad my father passed on, 2004, before I found out about Paul Newman as it would have been very possible that they rubbed elbows on more than one occasion.
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Heather from LI wrote:
<quoted text>We need a human President!
That's funny! You've had so many "inhumane" ones, your senses are now impaired.

Look again.

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