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#144280 Feb 25, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Ex-Aide: Bush Misled Public On CIA Leak
Former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Says Top White House Officials Provided False Information Nov. 20, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2mzh64
CBS/AP) Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan blames President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the public about the role of White House aides in leaking the identity of a CIA operative.
In an excerpt from his forthcoming book, McClellan recounts the 2003 news conference in which he told reporters that aides Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby were "not involved" in the leak involving operative Valerie Plame.
"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Tuesday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/pol...
Oh wow, a Press Secretary spinning? Now that is really news!!!

Robert Gibbs says talk of drone program was a no-no during time as press secretary
Gibbs says he wasn’t even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the drone program in discussions with the media.
BY DAN HIRSCHHORN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, FEBRUARY 25, 2013

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/w-h-...
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144282 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I am waiting for Jacques' Ground Hog moment!
WND.com and FoxNews.com BREAKING NEWS :

The proverbial ground hog poked his head out of his hole this morning and, lo and behold, no shadow, just a parchment with the following news :

1. Rogue Scholar was wrong on the Jacksonville maryorlalty race. He blamed the newspapers;
2. Rogue Scholar has been wrong 197 times on the Obama birth certificate fiasco as shown by various courts' judgements, all presided over by dem and repub-apptd judges, all yellow cowards and communist traitors;
3. Rogue was wrong about Supremes deciding on the 1st day of deliberations that Obamacare would be voted down. Rogue blamed his "sources";
4. Rogue was wrong about : a) percentage of gun killings by criminals; b) about dems being bigger fraudsters than repubs at election time; c) about sure-to-lose Obama buying a $35 million (yes, 35, NOT $3.5 million) house in Hawaii; d) wrong about the F-14 combat role in Vietnam;
5. Rogue was wrong about the stock market crash; a) wrong about the president being responsible when the DJIA tanks and wrong when not crediting Obama when it rises; wrong about the 1% on taxes and wrong upon defending them at every turn;
6. Rogue was wrong about the November 6 election. Dead wrong, after prematurely and puerilily boasting of a sure Romney victory. Wrong in victoriously listing over 40 newspapers that backed Romney, the sure winner. Wrong about sorelosingly claiming that Obama gifts won the election for him. Wrong on his prediction that he was preparing his dancing shoes for dancing in the streets come November 7 morning;

Wnd.com and FoxNews report that the poor critter, after 30 seconds of glancing at Rogue's "proclivity" (LMAO RLS tm reg'd) for predicting and judging news events and refusing to read more, scurried back in his hole and begged the onlookers to shut it down permanently.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144283 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow, a Press Secretary spinning? Now that is really news!!!
Robert Gibbs says talk of drone program was a no-no during time as press secretary
Gibbs says he wasn’t even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the drone program in discussions with the media.
BY DAN HIRSCHHORN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, FEBRUARY 25, 2013
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/w-h-...
As far as is known, Robert Gibbs did not put CIA agents' lives in jeopardy, not to mention the agency's modus operandi.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#144284 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I am waiting for Jacques' Ground Hog moment!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
WND.com and FoxNews.com BREAKING NEWS :
The proverbial ground hog poked his head out of his hole this morning and, lo and behold, no shadow, just a parchment with the following news :
1. Rogue Scholar was wrong on the Jacksonville maryorlalty race. He blamed the newspapers;
2. Rogue Scholar has been wrong 197 times on the Obama birth certificate fiasco as shown by various courts' judgements, all presided over by dem and repub-apptd judges, all yellow cowards and communist traitors;
3. Rogue was wrong about Supremes deciding on the 1st day of deliberations that Obamacare would be voted down. Rogue blamed his "sources";
4. Rogue was wrong about : a) percentage of gun killings by criminals; b) about dems being bigger fraudsters than repubs at election time; c) about sure-to-lose Obama buying a $35 million (yes, 35, NOT $3.5 million) house in Hawaii; d) wrong about the F-14 combat role in Vietnam;
5. Rogue was wrong about the stock market crash; a) wrong about the president being responsible when the DJIA tanks and wrong when not crediting Obama when it rises; wrong about the 1% on taxes and wrong upon defending them at every turn;
6. Rogue was wrong about the November 6 election. Dead wrong, after prematurely and puerilily boasting of a sure Romney victory. Wrong in victoriously listing over 40 newspapers that backed Romney, the sure winner. Wrong about sorelosingly claiming that Obama gifts won the election for him. Wrong on his prediction that he was preparing his dancing shoes for dancing in the streets come November 7 morning;
Wnd.com and FoxNews report that the poor critter, after 30 seconds of glancing at Rogue's "proclivity" (LMAO RLS tm reg'd) for predicting and judging news events and refusing to read more, scurried back in his hole and begged the onlookers to shut it down permanently.
Remember what the Ground Hog said on Ground Hog Day?'Punxsutawney Phil' Predicts Early Spring!!! How's his prediction coming along?

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#144285 Feb 25, 2013
Obama Is Not The Legitimate President of the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

National Impeach Obama Protest - San Diego Event (Feb 2013) This went on all over the country.
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Obama’s CDC Has Stackable Coffins Ready
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-cdc-h...

Coffins. ammo. Brown shirt, civilian army and asking military brass if they can fire against US citizens? I think the Commie wants a 3rd term!!
Learn to Read

United States

#144286 Feb 25, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Obama Is Not The Legitimate President of the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

National Impeach Obama Protest - San Diego Event (Feb 2013) This went on all over the country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LUyNVZz9CZkXX&feature=pla yer_embedded

ObamaÂ’s CDC Has Stackable Coffins Ready
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-cdc-h...

Coffins. ammo. Brown shirt, civilian army and asking military brass if they can fire against US citizens? I think the Commie wants a 3rd term!!
Pathetic moron clings to fables. Sucks to be a Birfoon
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144288 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I am waiting for Jacques' Ground Hog moment!
<quoted text>
Remember what the Ground Hog said on Ground Hog Day?'Punxsutawney Phil' Predicts Early Spring!!! How's his prediction coming along?
Although not too good, still much more accurater than every single one of your predictions.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144289 Feb 25, 2013
Corr: accurate
Justus Liebig

Meriden, CT

#144290 Feb 25, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Was it processed the same as all others? I suppose you witnessed this, right? WHAT-A-DIP! puppet master LMAO!
He received the same kind of BC anyone else born in Hawaii: yes.
I didn't have to witness his birth either. That's why states have Departments of Vital Records.

Duh!

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#144292 Feb 25, 2013
Obama Youth Brigade: Church Attendance Forbidden
http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/culture/polit...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#144293 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow, a Press Secretary spinning? Now that is really news!!!
Robert Gibbs says talk of drone program was a no-no during time as press secretary
Gibbs says he wasn’t even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the drone program in discussions with the media.
BY DAN HIRSCHHORN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, FEBRUARY 25, 2013
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/w-h -...
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as is known, Robert Gibbs did not put CIA agents' lives in jeopardy, not to mention the agency's modus operandi.
Sooo, that makes it okay to lie to the American people?

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#144294 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And what is sad is that Jacques will forget all of what I just said and it will be like Ground Hog Day all over again!
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Former Surgeon General Says Politics Took Priority /
Bush More Corrupt Than Nixon: July 12, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2uyndl
Richard H. Carmona told a House hearing Tuesday that he believed his task as surgeon general from 2002 to 2006 was to improve "health literacy" using the best medical and scientific data he could collect. But top Bush administration officials, Carmona testified, had other ideas. The following are excerpts from testimony by Carmona -- a former Army Special Forces medic, hospital chief executive and university professor -- before the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform:
"The vetting was done by political appointees who were specifically there to be able to spin, if you will, my words in such a way that would be preferable to a political or an ideologically preconceived notion that had nothing to do with science....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Several points here Tootzis, First,this is old news being six years old. Next, San Fran Nan Pelosi had just become Speaker of the House and she wanted to make Bush look bad. And final point, he gives no specifics! He is there just to bash the Evil Bush!
And that is why you are hear. You don't want the truth. You just want to bash Bush!!! And that makes you a sad little troll.
Learn to Read

United States

#144296 Feb 25, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Obama Youth Brigade: Church Attendance Forbidden
http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/culture/polit...
Just when you thought the stupid had maxed out ....
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144297 Feb 25, 2013
Braindeadlintards wrote:
Yadda yadda yadda, a fake is a fake and useless no matter who accepts it. Present a fake piece of art from a famous artist and call it original all you want, but it will always be a fake no matter who declares it authentic. And the fact that you as an American would accept a fake and fraudulent documents from someone who's only goal is to lie to obtain the highest position in your country is pathetic!
You unbelievably wrote : "call it original all you want, but it will always be a fake no matter who declares it authentic". Yes you did. Instead of self-incriminating yourself like that, you should've taken the 5th.

Scenario for brain-dead birther :

Christie's auction house in London. Certification signed by 5 famous art curators and experts which states "We certifiy that this Picasso is a true and veritable original".

Braindeadbirther : "I disagree. It's a fake."

End of fable.

Since: May 10

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#144298 Feb 25, 2013
Justus Liebig wrote:
<quoted text>He received the same kind of BC anyone else born in Hawaii: yes.
I didn't have to witness his birth either. That's why states have Departments of Vital Records.
Duh!
In 1985 I needed a passport but I had lost my birth certificate so I wrote off to my home state and I received a Certificate of Live Birth. It has a multi-colored seal (not raised) and it is still in the envelope I got it in which is a standard #2 envelope so the CoLB has three crease marks.
Isn't funny that the first time they showed his documents, there were no creases and no evidence of any seal.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144299 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow, a Press Secretary spinning? Now that is really news!!!
Robert Gibbs says talk of drone program was a no-no during time as press secretary
Gibbs says he wasn’t even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the drone program in discussions with the media.
BY DAN HIRSCHHORN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, FEBRUARY 25, 2013
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/w-h -...
<quoted text>
Sooo, that makes it okay to lie to the American people?
Not at all, but the Nixon lie was much bigger than the Obama one and cost thousands of more lives, hundreds of thousands. Think of the consequence when you broach such a subject. Stealing $1 million is much worse and sinful than stealing $10.00. Both are wrong, but hey...

Since: May 10

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#144300 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow, a Press Secretary spinning? Now that is really news!!!
Robert Gibbs says talk of drone program was a no-no during time as press secretary
Gibbs says he wasn’t even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the drone program in discussions with the media.
BY DAN HIRSCHHORN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, FEBRUARY 25, 2013
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/w-h -...
<quoted text>
Sooo, that makes it okay to lie to the American people?
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all, but the Nixon lie was much bigger than the Obama one and cost thousands of more lives, hundreds of thousands. Think of the consequence when you broach such a subject. Stealing $1 million is much worse and sinful than stealing $10.00. Both are wrong, but hey...
If the $10 was from a very poor person and that money would be used to by basic food items for their children, that is much worse that staling from a a million dollars from a billionaire!!!
But how did Nixon lying about Watergate kill anyone?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#144301 Feb 25, 2013
Braindeadlintards wrote:
Yadda yadda yadda, a fake is a fake and useless no matter who accepts it. Present a fake piece of art from a famous artist and call it original all you want, but it will always be a fake no matter who declares it authentic. And the fact that you as an American would accept a fake and fraudulent documents from someone who's only goal is to lie to obtain the highest position in your country is pathetic!
Obama's birth certificate is not fake. Only birther "experts" have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#144302 Feb 25, 2013
Re: "Isn't funny that the first time they showed his documents, there were no creases and no evidence of any seal. "

Perhaps you have not noticed that a document scanner putting the document into PDF does not pick up everything. But the creases and the seal are clearly shown in:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...

Some things that show that Obama was born in Hawaii:

1. Obama's two official birth certificates, with the state seals on them.(The official physical copy of the long-form birth certificate was handed around in the White House press room, and one reporter said that she had felt the seal and took a photo of the document. http://turningthescale.net &#8203;/?p=541)

2. The confirmation of the facts on the two birth certificates (short form and long form)----that Obama was born in Hawaii---by THREE Republican officials in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor, who is a friend of Sarah Palin’s) and several Democrats, and by the public Index Data file. The acceptance of the written confirmation of the facts on Obama’s birth certificate by the conservative secretary of state of Arizona.

3. The notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 that were sent to the papers “Health Bureau Statistics” section by the DOH of Hawaii----and only the DOH could send those notices.(Also, the claim that the DOH could have been influenced by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.)

4. The absence of a US travel document for Obama in 1961. Nor has there been an application for such a travel document found.(A child born in a foreign country would, of course, require either to be on his mother’s US passport or to receive a US visa on a foreign passport. Either of which would have had to have been done IN a US consulate in that foreign country, and the application for that document would still exist, and would have been found by the Bush Administration during the eight years in which it was in charge of the US State Department, but they didn’t.)

5. The teacher, who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 and writing home about it (about the birth to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley).

6. Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

7. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and it was rare for women to travel late in pregnancy in those days. WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama’s father remained in Hawaii throughout 1961, which would have meant that she would have had to have made that long, expensive and risky trip without him---and that is hardly likely at all. In fact, it is irrational to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (his grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank in 1961) or stupid enough to send Obama’s mother on a long, expensive and risky (the incidence of stillbirth was high in those days) trip to a foreign country when she was late in pregnancy------when there were perfectly fine hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#144303 Feb 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And what is sad is that Jacques will forget all of what I just said and it will be like Ground Hog Day all over again!
<quoted text>
Several points here Tootzis, First,this is old news being six years old. Next, San Fran Nan Pelosi had just become Speaker of the House and she wanted to make Bush look bad. And final point, he gives no specifics! He is there just to bash the Evil Bush!
And that is why you are hear. You don't want the truth. You just want to bash Bush!!! And that makes you a sad little troll.
Everything I post is factual and nobody can disprove me.

What I have forgotten, you have not even learned yet.

Old news is still true news.

lol

P.S. Pelosi is a corporate hack.

That is how she was elected Speaker of the House.

Follow the Money RS.

Smarten Up.

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Bush Republicans Dangerous To USA Democracy

Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006

Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.

In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.

Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi...

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