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Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144030 Feb 23, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Is John Brennan Blackmailing Obama over the BC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Wow! Brennan has the transcript of the three wise men at the Kenyan hut who prophesied Obama's presidency?

If he were born in Kenya, his mother could have obtained his US citizenship pro forma by merely applying. But birfoons know that the three wise men advised Ann to smuggle her child back into the US using a Hogwarts invisibility cloak so that he could one day be POTUS!

Wowee Zowee, what a great fable! Such a great fable it MUST BE TRUE!

Except that it makes no sense whatsoever and is contrary to the facts.

Boo Hoo.

Since: May 10

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#144031 Feb 23, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else
http://tinyurl.com/ydf6r6 / April 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ìthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/181339-1
Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense
(And Stick You with the Bill) January 18, 2008
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston joins us to talk about his new book,“Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill).” Johnston reveals how government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the poor and the middle class to the rich and politically connected.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lu...
They why does Obummer Boy close tax loop-holes? Instead, he will raise overall tax rates of which those with an income of only $25,000 will not have tax loop-holes for things like private jets.

“Wild WILD West”

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#144032 Feb 23, 2013
1945: US flag raised over Iwo Jima

On 19 February, after four days of naval and air bombardment had pounded the beaches and weakened Japanese defences, the 4th and 5th Marine Divisions landed on the south side of the island under the overall command of Vice-Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner.

After a day of little resistance, the enemy fought back in earnest.

Hidden in fortified caves and pillboxes linked by a series of tunnels they relentlessly attacked the Americans with artillery fire, grenades and other explosives as well as from the air.

The last 24 hours have seen the fiercest fighting yet with every step of the way up the mountain defended by the Japanese.

But by 1035 local time the Marines had reached the summit of Mt Suribachi.

Reporting from the US base in Guam, Admiral Chester W Nimitz said so far the battle had cost 5,372 casualties, including 644 dead, and that US carrier-based aircraft flying over the Bonin Islands north of Iwo Jima had destroyed three enemy planes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stor...

I had relatives there.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144033 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
1945: US flag raised over Iwo Jima
On 19 February, after four days of naval and air bombardment had pounded the beaches and weakened Japanese defences, the 4th and 5th Marine Divisions landed on the south side of the island under the overall command of Vice-Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner.
After a day of little resistance, the enemy fought back in earnest.
Hidden in fortified caves and pillboxes linked by a series of tunnels they relentlessly attacked the Americans with artillery fire, grenades and other explosives as well as from the air.
The last 24 hours have seen the fiercest fighting yet with every step of the way up the mountain defended by the Japanese.
But by 1035 local time the Marines had reached the summit of Mt Suribachi.
Reporting from the US base in Guam, Admiral Chester W Nimitz said so far the battle had cost 5,372 casualties, including 644 dead, and that US carrier-based aircraft flying over the Bonin Islands north of Iwo Jima had destroyed three enemy planes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stor...
I had relatives there.

A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?

“Wild WILD West”

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#144034 Feb 23, 2013
The Flag Raisers
The Six Iwo Jima Flag Raisers

Ira Hayes -[A Pima Indian, Native AMERICAN]

Ira Hayes was born January 12, 1923 in Sacaton, Arizona, and died January 24, 1955 in Bapchule, Arizona. Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. When he enlisted in the Marine Corps, he had hardly ever been off the Reservation. His Chief told him to be an “Honorable Warrior” and bring honor upon his family.
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingc.htm

The Ballad of Ira Hayes

“Wild WILD West”

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#144035 Feb 23, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?
One of historical proportions.

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#144036 Feb 23, 2013
Just like THIS!

Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions

Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144037 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
They why does Obummer Boy close tax loop-holes? Instead, he will raise overall tax rates of which those with an income of only $25,000 will not have tax loop-holes for things like private jets.
Only Congress can raise or lower tax rates.

Boy? The old man with a child's mentality uses the term, "boy"? Pathetic.

In Rougie's fantasy world, only Dem Presidents raise taxes and only Republican Congresses lower taxes.

Grow up!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144038 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
One of historical proportions.
The birfoon forum is indeed of laughable proportions and pathetic delusions.

Sad.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144039 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
The Flag Raisers
The Six Iwo Jima Flag Raisers
Ira Hayes -[A Pima Indian, Native AMERICAN]
Ira Hayes was born January 12, 1923 in Sacaton, Arizona, and died January 24, 1955 in Bapchule, Arizona. Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. When he enlisted in the Marine Corps, he had hardly ever been off the Reservation. His Chief told him to be an “Honorable Warrior” and bring honor upon his family.
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingc.htm
The Ballad of Ira Hayes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UKDLQWEvubcXX
He wasn't a birfoon.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144041 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
Just like THIS!
Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions
Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...
UR comparing half as long recessions to twice as long recession.

Bogus "general rule."

Since: May 10

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#144042 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
Just like THIS!
Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions
Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!

Since: May 10

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#144043 Feb 23, 2013
When QEI came out, the stock market zoomed upwards. And when QEI ended, it crashed.
Then they came out with QEII and again the stock market zoomed and again it crashed when QEII ended.
So what did the Fed do? Why the started QEIII and again the stock market zoomed. Now, what do you expect will happen to the stock market when QEIII ends?
Well, all they wanted it do do is get Obummer through the election!!! And after that, they don't give a damn because they got what they wanted, another four years in the White House.
Oh, my broker told me to stay out of the market so I bought to repoed houses as rental units.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144044 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.

“Wild WILD West”

Since: Feb 13

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#144045 Feb 23, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!

“Wild WILD West”

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#144046 Feb 23, 2013
What does a 'secure' border look like?

Full story: Reno Gazette-Journal

U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano speaks in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Air and Marine hangar in El Paso, Texas, on immigration and border security...

Now, crossing would mean scaling two fences, passing a phalanx of agents and eluding cameras.

The difference, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has said, is like “a rocket ship and a horse and buggy.”

In pure numbers it is this: Where border agents made some 530,000 arrests in San Diego in fiscal year 1993, they had fewer than 30,000 in 2012.

But for those who live and work along the boundary,“secure” means different things. In Arizona, ranchers scoff at the idea. In New Mexico, locals worry about what’s heading south in addition to flowing north. And in Texas, residents firmly believe that reform itself would finally help steady the flow of people and drugs.

These places have been transformed. Sealed? No. But as one border mayor asked:“How secure is secure?”

http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20130223/NEWS12/30... -

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144047 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!
The point concerned the definition of recession, not your fuzzy-minded ramblings about "state".

Got a clue what "on-point" means?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#144049 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
What does a 'secure' border look like?
Full story: Reno Gazette-Journal
U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano speaks in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Air and Marine hangar in El Paso, Texas, on immigration and border security...
Now, crossing would mean scaling two fences, passing a phalanx of agents and eluding cameras.
The difference, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has said, is like “a rocket ship and a horse and buggy.”
In pure numbers it is this: Where border agents made some 530,000 arrests in San Diego in fiscal year 1993, they had fewer than 30,000 in 2012.
But for those who live and work along the boundary,“secure” means different things. In Arizona, ranchers scoff at the idea. In New Mexico, locals worry about what’s heading south in addition to flowing north. And in Texas, residents firmly believe that reform itself would finally help steady the flow of people and drugs.
These places have been transformed. Sealed? No. But as one border mayor asked:“How secure is secure?”
http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20130223/NEWS12/30... -
Thank you for your off-point rant. This is the birfoon fantasy forum. Perhaps you should move your butt to the immigration forum, if you can figure out the difference?

Since: May 10

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#144051 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!
Wojo wrote:
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!
Yep, a year and a half ago I named my new puppy after him and called him Little Wojo!
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#144052 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Several points here Tootzie. Ashcroft said he did not know what the threats were. Maybe he had a death threat from some loony-lefty.
And the person who wrote that article does knot no that inter-agencies do not "lease" form each other. As an Army aviator and having served in Flight Operations in a number of units, I have done missions for the Air Force, Navy and Dept of Transportation as well as other foreign countries.
In 1980 we would charge $2,000 per flight hour in a Chinook from within the Army,$3,000 per hour between U.S. government agencies and $6,000 per hour to foreign governments. No money changes hands, it is all accounting.
On one mission for Dept. of Trans. I had to recover a Cessna from a river. The plane was flying way to love over a river and hit power lines in a remote section of the river. We got there two days after the accident and, yes, the pilot was still in his seat.
There is NO lease. There is however a transfer of funds.
Did Ashcroft brush off terror warnings?
NBC exclusive: 9/11 commission interviews FBI officials who contradict Ashcroft testimony June 22, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/5avy3
WASHINGTON - The 9/11 commission is busy writing its final report, but is still investigating critical facts, including the conduct of U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft. NBC News has learned that the commission has interviewed two FBI officials who contradict sworn testimony by Ashcroft, about whether he brushed off terrorism warnings in the summer of 2001.
In the critical months before Sept. 11, did Ashcroft dismiss threats of an al-Qaida attack in this country?
At issue is a July 5, 2001, meeting between Ashcroft and acting FBI Director Tom Pickard. That month, the threat of an al-Qaida attack was so high, the White House summoned the FBI and domestic agencies, and warned them to be on alert.

Yet, Pickard testified to the 9/11 commission that when he tried to brief Ashcroft just a week later, on July 12, about the terror threat inside the United States, he got the brush-off.
"Mr. Ashcroft told you that he did not want to hear about this anymore," Democratic commission member Richard Ben-Veniste asked on April 13. "Is that correct?"

"That is correct," Pickard replied.

Testifying under oath the same day, Ashcroft categorically denied the allegation, saying, "I did never speak to him saying that I didn't want to hear about terrorism."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5271234/

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