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“Wild WILD West”

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#144032 Feb 23, 2013
1945: US flag raised over Iwo Jima

On 19 February, after four days of naval and air bombardment had pounded the beaches and weakened Japanese defences, the 4th and 5th Marine Divisions landed on the south side of the island under the overall command of Vice-Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner.

After a day of little resistance, the enemy fought back in earnest.

Hidden in fortified caves and pillboxes linked by a series of tunnels they relentlessly attacked the Americans with artillery fire, grenades and other explosives as well as from the air.

The last 24 hours have seen the fiercest fighting yet with every step of the way up the mountain defended by the Japanese.

But by 1035 local time the Marines had reached the summit of Mt Suribachi.

Reporting from the US base in Guam, Admiral Chester W Nimitz said so far the battle had cost 5,372 casualties, including 644 dead, and that US carrier-based aircraft flying over the Bonin Islands north of Iwo Jima had destroyed three enemy planes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stor...

I had relatives there.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#144033 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
1945: US flag raised over Iwo Jima
On 19 February, after four days of naval and air bombardment had pounded the beaches and weakened Japanese defences, the 4th and 5th Marine Divisions landed on the south side of the island under the overall command of Vice-Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner.
After a day of little resistance, the enemy fought back in earnest.
Hidden in fortified caves and pillboxes linked by a series of tunnels they relentlessly attacked the Americans with artillery fire, grenades and other explosives as well as from the air.
The last 24 hours have seen the fiercest fighting yet with every step of the way up the mountain defended by the Japanese.
But by 1035 local time the Marines had reached the summit of Mt Suribachi.
Reporting from the US base in Guam, Admiral Chester W Nimitz said so far the battle had cost 5,372 casualties, including 644 dead, and that US carrier-based aircraft flying over the Bonin Islands north of Iwo Jima had destroyed three enemy planes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stor...
I had relatives there.

A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?

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#144034 Feb 23, 2013
The Flag Raisers
The Six Iwo Jima Flag Raisers

Ira Hayes -[A Pima Indian, Native AMERICAN]

Ira Hayes was born January 12, 1923 in Sacaton, Arizona, and died January 24, 1955 in Bapchule, Arizona. Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. When he enlisted in the Marine Corps, he had hardly ever been off the Reservation. His Chief told him to be an “Honorable Warrior” and bring honor upon his family.
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingc.htm

The Ballad of Ira Hayes

“Wild WILD West”

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#144035 Feb 23, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?
One of historical proportions.

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#144036 Feb 23, 2013
Just like THIS!

Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions

Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...

“Facts trump speculation”

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Bristol, CT

#144037 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
They why does Obummer Boy close tax loop-holes? Instead, he will raise overall tax rates of which those with an income of only $25,000 will not have tax loop-holes for things like private jets.
Only Congress can raise or lower tax rates.

Boy? The old man with a child's mentality uses the term, "boy"? Pathetic.

In Rougie's fantasy world, only Dem Presidents raise taxes and only Republican Congresses lower taxes.

Grow up!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#144038 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
One of historical proportions.
The birfoon forum is indeed of laughable proportions and pathetic delusions.

Sad.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of us had relative who sacrificed their lives in the Pacific Theater. However, that has nothing to do with birfoon fantasies. Do you know what forum you are posting to?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#144039 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
The Flag Raisers
The Six Iwo Jima Flag Raisers
Ira Hayes -[A Pima Indian, Native AMERICAN]
Ira Hayes was born January 12, 1923 in Sacaton, Arizona, and died January 24, 1955 in Bapchule, Arizona. Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. When he enlisted in the Marine Corps, he had hardly ever been off the Reservation. His Chief told him to be an “Honorable Warrior” and bring honor upon his family.
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingc.htm
The Ballad of Ira Hayes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UKDLQWEvubcXX
He wasn't a birfoon.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#144041 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
Just like THIS!
Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions
Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...
UR comparing half as long recessions to twice as long recession.

Bogus "general rule."

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#144042 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
Just like THIS!
Obama's Recovery A Flop Of Historical Proportions
Some might argue that the anemic post-recession growth rate under Obama has resulted from his having inherited a worse recession than most. There's little doubt that he inherited a particularly long (18-month) and significant recession. But the historical record suggests that, pre-Obama, the general rule was: the worse the recession (or depression), the better the recovery.
In other words, one would have expected such a severe downturn to be followed by a particularly strong stretch of economic growth. That, of course, hasn't happened.
But it has historically. If we look only at the six postwar recessions that lasted at least half as long (that is, at least nine months) as the recession Obama inherited, we find the following:
Average real quarterly GDP growth in the two years coming out of those recessions was 6.2%. The 2.4% figure under Obama has been a mere 39% of that — which, come to think of it, roughly matches Obama's current approval rating.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0906...
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!

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#144043 Feb 23, 2013
When QEI came out, the stock market zoomed upwards. And when QEI ended, it crashed.
Then they came out with QEII and again the stock market zoomed and again it crashed when QEII ended.
So what did the Fed do? Why the started QEIII and again the stock market zoomed. Now, what do you expect will happen to the stock market when QEIII ends?
Well, all they wanted it do do is get Obummer through the election!!! And after that, they don't give a damn because they got what they wanted, another four years in the White House.
Oh, my broker told me to stay out of the market so I bought to repoed houses as rental units.

“Facts trump speculation”

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Bristol, CT

#144044 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.

“Wild WILD West”

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#144045 Feb 23, 2013
wojar wrote:
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When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!

“Wild WILD West”

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#144046 Feb 23, 2013
What does a 'secure' border look like?

Full story: Reno Gazette-Journal

U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano speaks in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Air and Marine hangar in El Paso, Texas, on immigration and border security...

Now, crossing would mean scaling two fences, passing a phalanx of agents and eluding cameras.

The difference, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has said, is like “a rocket ship and a horse and buggy.”

In pure numbers it is this: Where border agents made some 530,000 arrests in San Diego in fiscal year 1993, they had fewer than 30,000 in 2012.

But for those who live and work along the boundary,“secure” means different things. In Arizona, ranchers scoff at the idea. In New Mexico, locals worry about what’s heading south in addition to flowing north. And in Texas, residents firmly believe that reform itself would finally help steady the flow of people and drugs.

These places have been transformed. Sealed? No. But as one border mayor asked:“How secure is secure?”

http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20130223/NEWS12/30... -

“Facts trump speculation”

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Bristol, CT

#144047 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!
The point concerned the definition of recession, not your fuzzy-minded ramblings about "state".

Got a clue what "on-point" means?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#144049 Feb 23, 2013
Trinite wrote:
What does a 'secure' border look like?
Full story: Reno Gazette-Journal
U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano speaks in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Air and Marine hangar in El Paso, Texas, on immigration and border security...
Now, crossing would mean scaling two fences, passing a phalanx of agents and eluding cameras.
The difference, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has said, is like “a rocket ship and a horse and buggy.”
In pure numbers it is this: Where border agents made some 530,000 arrests in San Diego in fiscal year 1993, they had fewer than 30,000 in 2012.
But for those who live and work along the boundary,“secure” means different things. In Arizona, ranchers scoff at the idea. In New Mexico, locals worry about what’s heading south in addition to flowing north. And in Texas, residents firmly believe that reform itself would finally help steady the flow of people and drugs.
These places have been transformed. Sealed? No. But as one border mayor asked:“How secure is secure?”
http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20130223/NEWS12/30... -
Thank you for your off-point rant. This is the birfoon fantasy forum. Perhaps you should move your butt to the immigration forum, if you can figure out the difference?

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#144051 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you consider that the inflation rate is twice the growth in GDP, we have been in a Recession for five years!!!
Wojo wrote:
When you consider make believe definitions of recession, anything is possible.
Trinite wrote:
<quoted text>
When you see the STATE of this nation, it's called TRUTH!
Yep, a year and a half ago I named my new puppy after him and called him Little Wojo!
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#144052 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Several points here Tootzie. Ashcroft said he did not know what the threats were. Maybe he had a death threat from some loony-lefty.
And the person who wrote that article does knot no that inter-agencies do not "lease" form each other. As an Army aviator and having served in Flight Operations in a number of units, I have done missions for the Air Force, Navy and Dept of Transportation as well as other foreign countries.
In 1980 we would charge $2,000 per flight hour in a Chinook from within the Army,$3,000 per hour between U.S. government agencies and $6,000 per hour to foreign governments. No money changes hands, it is all accounting.
On one mission for Dept. of Trans. I had to recover a Cessna from a river. The plane was flying way to love over a river and hit power lines in a remote section of the river. We got there two days after the accident and, yes, the pilot was still in his seat.
There is NO lease. There is however a transfer of funds.
Did Ashcroft brush off terror warnings?
NBC exclusive: 9/11 commission interviews FBI officials who contradict Ashcroft testimony June 22, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/5avy3
WASHINGTON - The 9/11 commission is busy writing its final report, but is still investigating critical facts, including the conduct of U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft. NBC News has learned that the commission has interviewed two FBI officials who contradict sworn testimony by Ashcroft, about whether he brushed off terrorism warnings in the summer of 2001.
In the critical months before Sept. 11, did Ashcroft dismiss threats of an al-Qaida attack in this country?
At issue is a July 5, 2001, meeting between Ashcroft and acting FBI Director Tom Pickard. That month, the threat of an al-Qaida attack was so high, the White House summoned the FBI and domestic agencies, and warned them to be on alert.

Yet, Pickard testified to the 9/11 commission that when he tried to brief Ashcroft just a week later, on July 12, about the terror threat inside the United States, he got the brush-off.
"Mr. Ashcroft told you that he did not want to hear about this anymore," Democratic commission member Richard Ben-Veniste asked on April 13. "Is that correct?"

"That is correct," Pickard replied.

Testifying under oath the same day, Ashcroft categorically denied the allegation, saying, "I did never speak to him saying that I didn't want to hear about terrorism."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5271234/
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#144053 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Several points here Tootzie. Ashcroft said he did not know what the threats were. Maybe he had a death threat from some loony-lefty.
And the person who wrote that article does knot no that inter-agencies do not "lease" form each other. As an Army aviator and having served in Flight Operations in a number of units, I have done missions for the Air Force, Navy and Dept of Transportation as well as other foreign countries.
In 1980 we would charge $2,000 per flight hour in a Chinook from within the Army,$3,000 per hour between U.S. government agencies and $6,000 per hour to foreign governments. No money changes hands, it is all accounting.
On one mission for Dept. of Trans. I had to recover a Cessna from a river. The plane was flying way to love over a river and hit power lines in a remote section of the river. We got there two days after the accident and, yes, the pilot was still in his seat.
There is NO lease. There is however a transfer of funds.
The USS Stark Incident
http://tinyurl.com/3e7fx
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm

Joint Chiefs Aircraft Hijackings / June 2001
AIRCRAFT PIRACY (HIJACKING) AND DESTRUCTION OF DERELICT
AIRBORNE OBJECTS
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/...
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#144054 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been saying that for years. Bill Clinton signed into law four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets, seven of the points of the Contract with America and the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997!!! And that snapped our economy back into the Black for Clinton's seconf term.
But the Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power and Dennis Hastert averaged $300 Billion over budget for seven years.
You have the facts totally wrong my friend.

Newt Gingrich Republicans Destroyed America with Bill "Wall Street" Clinton.

Enclosed is PROOF:

1929 crash

2008 crash

McCain guru linked to subprime crisis / Republican Phil Gramm
3/28/08 / http://tinyurl.com/2ujo9b
The general co-chairman of John McCain’s presidential campaign, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil.

“A regulatory structure set up for banks in the 1930s needed to change because the nature of business had changed,” the Illinois senator running for president said in a New York economic speech.“But by the time [it] was repealed in 1999, the $300 million lobbying effort that drove deregulation was more about facilitating mergers than creating an efficient regulatory framework.”
Gramm’s role in the swift and dramatic recent restructuring of the nation’s investment houses and practices didn’t stop there.

A year after the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the old regulations, Swiss Bank UBS gobbled up brokerage house Paine Weber. Two years later, Gramm settled in as a vice chairman of UBS’s new investment banking arm.

Later, he became a major player in its government affairs operation. According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006.

During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages.

For his work, Gramm and two other lobbyists collected $750,000 in fees from UBS’s American subsidiary. In the past year, UBS has written down more then $18 billion in exposure to subprime loans and other risky securities and is considering cutting as many as 8,000 jobs. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/924...

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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Senate voted 90 yea 8 nay / http://banking.senate.gov/conf/
This proves beyond all doubt that both parties do not represent “We The People”!
http://banking.senate.gov/conf/

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

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