BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144065 Feb 23, 2013
Looks like one puppet had his strings snipped! LMAO!!!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144066 Feb 23, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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And I’ve been calling you on it for probably as long.
“I think he did work with me to pass some good budgets,” Clinton said Tuesday in an interview with NBC’s Ann Curry.“…I had a decent working relationship with him. But the vast lion’s share of balancing the budget was done by the budget in 1993 that he led the opposition to.”
"Ninety percent of the budget was balanced before the Balanced Budget Act was ever passed,” Clinton said, referring to the 1997 bill that Gingrich touts as a signature achievement.
Fact-checkers at Politifact weren’t so forgiving. They examined Gingrich’s claim that,“for four years, we balanced the budget and paid off $405 billion in debt,” and declared the statement false.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/20/news/...
NBC? LMAO!!!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144067 Feb 23, 2013
FFS- wrote:
ITS BIRTHER TIME~
Hello birthers, anything new? No? Thats suprising?
Well, there is. I believe the score went to 197-0 yesterday. Yet, this was supposed to be THE one.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144068 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Naw, we haven't gone anywhere and we haven't given up. Did you give up trying the try G.W., Dick Cheney, etc. for war crimes?
Er, has Cheney been out of the U.S. lately? No? Why?

Did you hear? When GWB was president, and he had to host a foreign dignitary he didn't partcularly like, he would have Cheney invite the poor bugger to join his hunting group. Somehow, visit always abruptly ended, ha ha.(That was a repeat).
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144069 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been saying that for years. Bill Clinton signed into law four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets, seven of the points of the Contract with America and the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997!!! And that snapped our economy back into the Black for Clinton's seconf term.
But the Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power and Dennis Hastert averaged $300 Billion over budget for seven years.
And so, Clinton had no input whatsoever in those budgets? Suuuuure.

And you wrote : "Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power " They did? You mean, just like that? And Newt did nothing wrong that forced him to resign? Would you mind elaborating?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144070 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, education, private and state pensions, police, none interstate highways, bridges, power poles, etc. are all, STATES OBLIGATIONS!!!
Tell me Jacques, beside DoD schools, name us ONE Federal elementary school, Middle School, High School, College, University?!?
Why should I,as a resident of Florida, have to pay for the pension of a school teacher, fireman, police officer, etc. in California?
Have you ever read the Tenth Amendment to our Constitution?
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
So, you wrote : "Ah, education, private and state pensions, police, none interstate highways, bridges, power poles, etc. are all, STATES OBLIGATIONS!!!" . FALSE. They are state responsibilities, yes, but mostly funded from federal income and sales taxes. Do you think, do you really think that entire state budgets are solely funded by state taxes? You need to get out more, read a decent paper or two, watch a decent tv channel or two.

But you do pay for other states' benefits. You like to give the example of you funding someone in California. Well, you purchase a B-1, B-2, drones, all that armamenet, submarines and carriers and all, and then build highways that criss-cross the country, are you going to say the U.S. military will only protect the states that contribute the most to the federal treasury and, to push your looney reasoning even farther, that you can only use highways depending on the size of the states' contributions to the federal honey pot? For example, Rhode Island should only be able to use a fraction of the interstate highways as they are federeally funded. If a Rhode Islander wanted to drive to California, then my understanding is , he could only go as far as Massachussets or else hide and use back roads.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144071 Feb 23, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And so, Clinton had no input whatsoever in those budgets? Suuuuure.
And you wrote : "Country Clubbers kicked Newt out of power " They did? You mean, just like that? And Newt did nothing wrong that forced him to resign? Would you mind elaborating?
puppet
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#144072 Feb 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
PS : I mean in my case as location is attached to my moniker.
<quoted text>
Under your monica is says Toronto which is not the same town as Ottawa!
Darn it,Rogue I explained it all earlier today. Is your reading capacity that impaired. I have no idea how Toronto gets thers, or on other days Brampton. It was explained why by Wojar, I believe, but you didn't read that either.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144073 Feb 23, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, there is. I believe the score went to 197-0 yesterday. Yet, this was supposed to be THE one.
puppet
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144074 Feb 23, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, has Cheney been out of the U.S. lately? No? Why?
Did you hear? When GWB was president, and he had to host a foreign dignitary he didn't partcularly like, he would have Cheney invite the poor bugger to join his hunting group. Somehow, visit always abruptly ended, ha ha.(That was a repeat).
puppet
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144075 Feb 23, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you wrote : "Ah, education, private and state pensions, police, none interstate highways, bridges, power poles, etc. are all, STATES OBLIGATIONS!!!" . FALSE. They are state responsibilities, yes, but mostly funded from federal income and sales taxes. Do you think, do you really think that entire state budgets are solely funded by state taxes? You need to get out more, read a decent paper or two, watch a decent tv channel or two.
But you do pay for other states' benefits. You like to give the example of you funding someone in California. Well, you purchase a B-1, B-2, drones, all that armamenet, submarines and carriers and all, and then build highways that criss-cross the country, are you going to say the U.S. military will only protect the states that contribute the most to the federal treasury and, to push your looney reasoning even farther, that you can only use highways depending on the size of the states' contributions to the federal honey pot? For example, Rhode Island should only be able to use a fraction of the interstate highways as they are federeally funded. If a Rhode Islander wanted to drive to California, then my understanding is , he could only go as far as Massachussets or else hide and use back roads.
puppet
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#144076 Feb 23, 2013
You must not have heard me coming, huh? LMAO!!!!!

“You AIN'T seen NOTHING yet!”

Since: Feb 13

Fountain Hills, AZ

#144077 Feb 24, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, loser, birfoon bc fantasies are a joke.
If you have policy issues, UR in the wrong forum.
Sorry. This is the birfoon fantasy forum. Where fantasy joy ride to Kenya and return under Hogwarts invisibility cloak is the fable.
All because the three wise men prophesied his Presidency in the Kenyan grass hut.
Capisce?
First Things First; Let’s Establish Who Jesus Is:
Question:“Who is Jesus Christ?”

Answer: Unlike the question “Does God exist?” very few people question whether Jesus Christ existed. It is generally accepted that Jesus was truly a man who walked on the earth in Israel 2000 years ago. The debate begins when the subject of Jesus’ full identity is discussed. Almost every major religion teaches that Jesus was a prophet or a good teacher or a godly man. The problem is that the Bible tells us that Jesus was infinitely more than a prophet, a good teacher, or a godly man.

http://beablessingsomehow.com/first-things-fi...

“DC Police Complaint #T14002751”

Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#144078 Feb 24, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Bobby is stuck on stupid.
Hey Romper - give it up
It appears that it is YOU who is "stuck on Stupid [Obama]"

“DC Police Complaint #T14002751”

Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#144079 Feb 24, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, there is. I believe the score went to 197-0 yesterday. Yet, this was supposed to be THE one.
I WILL prevail!
Heather from LI

Bethel, CT

#144080 Feb 24, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears that it is YOU who is "stuck on Stupid you fucking NIGGER [Obama]"
We need a human President!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#144081 Feb 24, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
NBC? LMAO!!!
Yeah, imagine that Mr.Liars. A president who was actually there, knows what the hell he’s talking about and fact check to back him up as opposed to what Rogue believes.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#144083 Feb 24, 2013
They call me Savage wrote:
<quoted text>
First Things First; Let’s Establish Who Jesus Is:
Question:“Who is Jesus Christ?”
Answer: Unlike the question “Does God exist?” very few people question whether Jesus Christ existed. It is generally accepted that Jesus was truly a man who walked on the earth in Israel 2000 years ago. The debate begins when the subject of Jesus’ full identity is discussed. Almost every major religion teaches that Jesus was a prophet or a good teacher or a godly man. The problem is that the Bible tells us that Jesus was infinitely more than a prophet, a good teacher, or a godly man.
http://beablessingsomehow.com/first-things-fi...
Well Mr. Savage not everyone believes Jesus was an actual historical figure.

ALL CLAIMS OF JESUS DERIVE FROM HEARSAY ACCOUNTS

No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus.

All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations, I will use the information and dates to show that even if these sources did not come from interpolations, they could still not serve as reliable evidence for a historical Jesus, simply because all sources about Jesus derive from hearsay accounts.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Personally, I believe he probably did exist.

“You AIN'T seen NOTHING yet!”

Since: Feb 13

Fountain Hills, AZ

#144084 Feb 24, 2013
Public opinion polls show that despite liberal denial, at least one in five or 17% of Americans recognize that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.[2][3]. Obama himself has professed to be a Christian; When interviewed by Christianity Today magazine, Obama said:
"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.
"There is one thing that I want to mention that I think is important. Part of what we've been seeing during the course of this campaign is some scurrilous e-mails that have been sent out, denying my faith, talking about me being a Muslim, suggesting that I got sworn in at the U.S. Senate with a Quran in my hand or that I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.[4]
Despite these claims, many Americans realize that he is, in fact, a Muslim. The following is a list of items that indicates that Obama is a Muslim:
Obama declared in prepared remarks, "The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them."[6][7]
Obama's wife Michelle does not accompany him to Muslim nations because Sharia law would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until France, but then returned home.
In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to Jesus as ***"a" Son of God rather than as ***"the" Son of God: "And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as a Son of God, but as a human being."[8]
Obama's background and outlook are Muslim, and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.[9][10] Although Obama attended a Catholic school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.[11]
http://www.conservapedia.com/Obama 's_Religion

***
There IS a difference in "a" and "the" ...
What does it mean that Jesus is God's only begotten son?
Answer: The phrase “only begotten Son” occurs in John 3:16, which reads in the King James Version as, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."

continued

“You AIN'T seen NOTHING yet!”

Since: Feb 13

Fountain Hills, AZ

#144085 Feb 24, 2013
conclusion

It's this last phrase ("only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV) that causes problems. False teachers have latched onto this phrase to try to prove their false teaching that Jesus Christ isn't God; i.e., that Jesus isn't equal in essence to God as the Second Person of the Trinity. They see the word "begotten" and say that Jesus is a created being because only someone who had a beginning in time can be "begotten." What this fails to note is that "begotten" is an English translation of a Greek word. As such, we have to look at the original meaning of the Greek word, not transfer English meanings into the text.
The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind."
and he uses this word to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters through faith.
The bottom line is that terms such as "Father" and "Son," that are descriptive of God and Jesus, are human terms used to help us understand the relationship between the different Persons of the Trinity. If you can understand the relationship between a human father and a human son, then you can understand, in part, the relationship between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. The analogy breaks down if you try to take it too far and teach, as some Christian cults (such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses), that Jesus was literally "begotten" as in “produced” or “created” by God the Father.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/only-begotten-son...

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