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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#143574 Feb 21, 2013
Shakalaka,
You sound just like Christopher Dorner reincarnated.
You're going to end up with a long stint in prison with that kind of 'tude.
loose
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143575 Feb 21, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
Three Wise men.
Yea, and I forgot to mention corporate Romney, corporate Paul Ryan, and corporate Sarah Palin.
Jacques Ottawa

Ajax, Canada

#143576 Feb 21, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Judge Andrew Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for crimes against the United States Constitution.
Lies The Government Told You
Author: Judge Andrew Napolitano
http://tinyurl.com/ykdwxlc /
Judge Andrew Napolitano has created a great book with Lies The Government Told You. He has put into writing what many of us have long suspected…our government has been lying to use for years about almost everything it has ever done. If you think our government is crooked and power hungry, you will realize just how crooked it is when you read this book. Lies The Government Told You is scary as hell to be truthful. I didn’t find a single thing that I disagreed with. It’s almost unbelievable how far our Nation has moved from the Constitution. While I don’t watch much news anymore (I find most so called “journalists” to be either too frightened or too stupid to ask real questions that actually matter) I see enough to keep up with the major stories. I was glad to see Napolitano mention the failure of the national media as well in the book. Lies The Government Told You will really open your eyes to how broken our government is, not just because it’s virtually bankrupt, but because it fails to uphold the constitution and protect the very citizens that fund it. You will also learn that the Federal Reserve isn’t a “federal” entity. It’s a private corporation that controls all our money with little or no oversight. There used to be a joke that if Alan Greenspan happened to comment how nasty a rainy day was, the stock market would drop fifty points. It doesn’t sound far-fetched when you realize how much power the Federal Reserve actually has. I wold love to see this book as required reading in any government class. It truly does open your mind to the countless ways we as citizens have failed to protect our own freedoms by allowing such actions to occur time and time again. If you can still vote for most politicians after reading this, I can only hope they have also read the book. All Americans should be both shocked and ashamed at our government for these lies. We should remember these actions the next time we vote, though another big problem is the lack of choices on the ballot. Let’s be honest, how many times have you voted for the lesser of two evils? I highly recommend this book for everyone. If millions read it and understand how far we have fallen, maybe there is still hope that we can get our government and our constitutional rights back.
http://www.bookreviewsweekly.com/lies-the-gov...
I pretty much agree with you that political parties, right and left, share pretty much the same common denominators, namely, love of power, corruption and me myself and I. However, the democrats, not unlike our Liberal Party here, are more pro "little guy", more compassionate, more humane than rightist parties. No social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties, it's all centre-left.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#143577 Feb 21, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Judge Andrew Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for crimes against the United States Constitution.
Lies The Government Told You
Author: Judge Andrew Napolitano
http://tinyurl.com/ykdwxlc /
Judge Andrew Napolitano has created a great book with Lies The Government Told You. He has put into writing what many of us have long suspected…our government has been lying to use for years about almost everything it has ever done. If you think our government is crooked and power hungry, you will realize just how crooked it is when you read this book. Lies The Government Told You is scary as hell to be truthful. I didn’t find a single thing that I disagreed with. It’s almost unbelievable how far our Nation has moved from the Constitution. While I don’t watch much news anymore (I find most so called “journalists” to be either too frightened or too stupid to ask real questions that actually matter) I see enough to keep up with the major stories. I was glad to see Napolitano mention the failure of the national media as well in the book. Lies The Government Told You will really open your eyes to how broken our government is, not just because it’s virtually bankrupt, but because it fails to uphold the constitution and protect the very citizens that fund it. You will also learn that the Federal Reserve isn’t a “federal” entity. It’s a private corporation that controls all our money with little or no oversight. There used to be a joke that if Alan Greenspan happened to comment how nasty a rainy day was, the stock market would drop fifty points. It doesn’t sound far-fetched when you realize how much power the Federal Reserve actually has. I wold love to see this book as required reading in any government class. It truly does open your mind to the countless ways we as citizens have failed to protect our own freedoms by allowing such actions to occur time and time again. If you can still vote for most politicians after reading this, I can only hope they have also read the book. All Americans should be both shocked and ashamed at our government for these lies. We should remember these actions the next time we vote, though another big problem is the lack of choices on the ballot. Let’s be honest, how many times have you voted for the lesser of two evils? I highly recommend this book for everyone. If millions read it and understand how far we have fallen, maybe there is still hope that we can get our government and our constitutional rights back.
http://www.bookreviewsweekly.com/lies-the-gov...
Ah exactly where does Judge Napolitano say that? The above does not mention their names!
Shakalaka

Morrow, GA

#143578 Feb 21, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Shakalaka,
You sound just like Christopher Dorner reincarnated.
You're going to end up with a long stint in prison with that kind of 'tude.
loose
Maybe but i'm taking your ass out before that happens.

LOL
Jacques Ottawa

Ajax, Canada

#143579 Feb 21, 2013
Shakalaka wrote:
<quoted text>
Abe Lincoln had slaves his dayumm self, he was backed up against the wall and pressured to sign that bill, not out of any great love for my people. Again, you honkies try to "make nice" all of the hell you've done but it don't fly by most of us who know the truth about America's past, present and yes...the Future. So please don't try to pull out one or two white folk whose consciousnesses was raised or whose ass was on the line who offered a hand. That is what "human beings" are supposed to do. If the media hadn't shown the world what assholes you were (White Rednecks) we all would have perished along time ago. Some of the Islands had already started poisoning white folk and ridding themselves of their presence. Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad, to name a free.
If you think the mighty "white man" had a hand in advancing the freedom of blacks here...think again. What was the alternative? Civil F**king WAR! Now you people can't have that because the white man likes to destroy other folks shit, but not his own. America was already beginning to burn baby burn!
Here's another thing with you honkies, since you brought it up again, let's address it. Let's see... "my rage and my attitude."
White folk jump on the boat all the time with that bull shit. We..YOU and I are NOT the same. What you people call rage, we call passion. You don't call it rage when your asses are exercising your "first admendment rights" No no no. You can say hatful things that causes riots in the middle east but...did we hear anything about the NUT in Florida being "enraged?" Not at all. As a matter of fact...most of you honkies defended his crazy ass. My attitude is mine. I'm not trying to change it when it comes to telling the "uncomfortable" truth...just to appease you or any other sob!
For the record... you have not heard rage coming from me...and you don't want to. You feel it's rage because you know we should be with living with your bull shit. But we have a better plan. keep you eye on the sparrow. And look deep into the mirror that reflects self.
You wrote : "Abe Lincoln had slaves " Did he? Shows nobody's perfect. But did he not free them? What pressure? Congress was initially against the proclamation. Yes, in all "good" acts for minorities, black, native Americans, women, yes, women, there was somre pressure, there always is. One of the pressures, you state it yourself, were the media. The media? pARDON ME. Are you going to tell me that the media were owned by blacks?

Will you try to convince me that blacks alone, 13% of the population, voted Obama in? Must've been a few honkies that voted for him.

What you have is NOT passion, it's simply blind hate, blind hatred. And it's quite understandable, what with what's been done to your race. However, that adttitude of yours is gonna get you into trouble, and you'll remain mired in the mediocrity that it seems you prefer while your black brothers and sisters advance. I predict you'll be labelling them traitors to the cause.

I'm not gonna pull punches because you're black, as this is what you want, deep down inside. Same if you were you white. You don't have a chip on your shoulder, you have a 2 x 4, and I fear it's unbalancing your judgement. Too bad.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#143580 Feb 21, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I pretty much agree with you that political parties, right and left, share pretty much the same common denominators, namely, love of power, corruption and me myself and I. However, the democrats, not unlike our Liberal Party here, are more pro "little guy", more compassionate, more humane than rightist parties. No social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties, it's all centre-left.
Ah, if you anti-business, you are anti-jobs. All you Liberals have done is increase unemployment.
According to the Labor Participation Rate, about 6.5 MILLION more American are now unemployed since Obama first entered the White House four years ago.
Sooo, just how is Obama for the "little guy"?
Ah, no social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties"! Ever heard of the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to our Constitution?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#143581 Feb 21, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
The mind reading ability of DIMs is truly remarkable. Talk about fantasies! You're laughable, slopuke! garden variety squid
One need not be a mind reader when dealing with an overt racist who wears his malignant hatred on his sleeve.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not looking for Utopia. I'm working for justice and righteousness, unlike the haters who wish to deny the humanity of people who look different than themselves. Sadly, you were "carefully taught to hate and fear." Education is the answer.
You still "hate all the people your relatives hate"?
Sad.
Education is the answer.
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/y ...
Shakalaka

Morrow, GA

#143582 Feb 21, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Shakalaka,
You sound just like Christopher Dorner reincarnated.
You're going to end up with a long stint in prison with that kind of 'tude.
loose
But seriously...you by your comments help to make my point.

First... take a year off and look up the word attitude. Then tell me where is the best place to go purchase one that YOU find comforting so I can buy it for you.

In the mean while...check your Racism Meter. It's about to blow its top. Americans aren't free. White Americans are enslaved by their own fears. Now you're "projecting" your own fears here...that if you speak your mind (First amendment rights) you could die or be imprisoned? That's the bull shit side of America we've been challenging for years honey. It works for some! Those that speak their minds any dayummm way.

Christopher Dorner was a man who was a victim of this bull shit and got tired. That's all. To the oppressors...he was a criminal but to the people of color..we understood.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#143583 Feb 21, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I can only take your lack of a reply as, yes, I'm denying it. Now, that makes you the real Mr. Liar! dolt
Anyone who does not play a juvenile's demented game confirms the nutball's delusions.

Can you hear us laughing?
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you denying your momma said you and you only are responsible for the things you do and say?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#143584 Feb 21, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, and I forgot to mention corporate Romney, corporate Paul Ryan, and corporate Sarah Palin.
The Great Pretender
http://www.youtube.com/embed/6Zy297Xgr8Q

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#143585 Feb 21, 2013
I guess they have to use orange golf ball in Phoenix, AZ. The last school snow day for Phoenix was 2007.

Snow Storm Hits Arizona, Colorado, Nebraska And Kansas In Rare Winter Weather Event
Reuters | Posted: 02/20/2013

By Keith Coffman

DENVER, Feb 20 (Reuters)- The leading edge of a large, powerful winter storm descended on the western United States on Wednesday, dropping snow as far south as Tucson, Arizona, and snarling evening rush-hour traffic in Denver.

A rare snowfall sweeping the southeastern corner of Arizona blanketed the saguaro cactus-studded high desert with several inches of white stuff, leading the Professional Golfers' Association to cancel play at a tournament near Tucson.

"I don't think I have (ever seen anything like this), to be honest," competitor Ian Poulter said of the first-round interruption of the World Golf Championships-Accenture Match Play tournament.

"It's absolutely remarkable to think one minute we're playing golf, albeit it's a little cool, and then within a space of 25 minutes, it turns from playable to cold drizzle to sleet and to snow. And within an hour and a half of all that starting, you've got 2 inches of snow plus on the ground. It's just bizarre."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/snow...
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143586 Feb 21, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I pretty much agree with you that political parties, right and left, share pretty much the same common denominators, namely, love of power, corruption and me myself and I. However, the democrats, not unlike our Liberal Party here, are more pro "little guy", more compassionate, more humane than rightist parties. No social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties, it's all centre-left.
You are half right and half wrong.

Look at our recent history.

Obama is to the RIGHT of both Republican presidents General Eisenhower and Tricky Dicky Nixon on some issues.

Also look what Slick Willie Clinton did with all the Speaker Newt Gingrich Republicans.

They terminated Glass/Stegall so Wall Street could rob again like they did in 1929.

NAFTA only benefits the wealthiest and look who showed up at the Clinton/Gore White House to sell it:

Presidents: Ford, Carter, Daddy Bush, and Reagan would have been there but was too sick.

Yes Democrats are the lesser of two evils, BUT STILL EVIL.

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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Senate voted 90 yea 8 nay / http://banking.senate.gov/conf/
This proves beyond all doubt that both parties do not represent “We The People”!
http://banking.senate.gov/conf/

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#143587 Feb 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, if you anti-business, you are anti-jobs. All you Liberals have done is increase unemployment.
According to the Labor Participation Rate, about 6.5 MILLION more American are now unemployed since Obama first entered the White House four years ago.
Sooo, just how is Obama for the "little guy"?
Ah, no social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties"! Ever heard of the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to our Constitution?
Post hoc fallacy strikes again.
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I pretty much agree with you that political parties, right and left, share pretty much the same common denominators, namely, love of power, corruption and me myself and I. However, the democrats, not unlike our Liberal Party here, are more pro "little guy", more compassionate, more humane than rightist parties. No social legislation has ever been enacted by right-wing parties, it's all centre-left.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#143588 Feb 21, 2013
Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported
By Rachelle Younglai | Reuters – 13 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- More than half of U.S. citizens believe that most or all of the country's 11 million illegal immigrants should be deported, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday that highlights the difficulties facing lawmakers trying to reform the U.S. immigration system.
The online survey shows resistance to easing immigration laws despite the biggest push for reform in Congress since 2007.
Thirty percent of those polled think that most illegal immigrants, with some exceptions, should be deported, while 23 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.
Only 5 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States legally, and 31 percent want most illegal immigrants to stay.
These results are in line with other polls in recent years, suggesting that people's views on immigration have not changed dramatically since the immigration debate reignited in Congress last month, according to Ipsos pollster Julia Clark.
"It's not Americans' views that are shifting. It is that the political climate is ripe for this discussion," after the November election when Hispanics voted overwhelmingly in favor of Democratic President Barack Obama, she said.
"Democrats feel that the time is right to capitalize on their wins and Republicans feel that they had a bad blow and are eager to reach out to Hispanics," she added.
Polls show that most Americans back immigration reform, although they often have different ideas of what that means, with some people favoring looser immigration laws while others want to see greater border security.
http://news.yahoo.com/majority-u-citizens-ill...
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143589 Feb 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah exactly where does Judge Napolitano say that? The above does not mention their names!
Back to Earth RS.

If you think the Republican party represents your interest, than I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm selling.

At least I know the corporate Democrats sold me out.

Yet you still believe in the corporate Republican party.

LOL

SAD BUT TRUE!

How Many Attended The Tea Parties?
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/04/how-ma...
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143590 Feb 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I guess they have to use orange golf ball in Phoenix, AZ. The last school snow day for Phoenix was 2007.
Snow Storm Hits Arizona, Colorado, Nebraska And Kansas In Rare Winter Weather Event
Reuters | Posted: 02/20/2013
By Keith Coffman
DENVER, Feb 20 (Reuters)- The leading edge of a large, powerful winter storm descended on the western United States on Wednesday, dropping snow as far south as Tucson, Arizona, and snarling evening rush-hour traffic in Denver.
A rare snowfall sweeping the southeastern corner of Arizona blanketed the saguaro cactus-studded high desert with several inches of white stuff, leading the Professional Golfers' Association to cancel play at a tournament near Tucson.
"I don't think I have (ever seen anything like this), to be honest," competitor Ian Poulter said of the first-round interruption of the World Golf Championships-Accenture Match Play tournament.
"It's absolutely remarkable to think one minute we're playing golf, albeit it's a little cool, and then within a space of 25 minutes, it turns from playable to cold drizzle to sleet and to snow. And within an hour and a half of all that starting, you've got 2 inches of snow plus on the ground. It's just bizarre."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/snow...
Think-tanks take oil money and use it to fund climate deniers
Exxon / Mobil cash supported concerted campaign to undermine case for man-made warming / 7 February 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/ydncytq
An orchestrated campaign is being waged against climate change science to undermine public acceptance of man-made global warming, environment experts claimed last night.
The attack against scientists supportive of the idea of man-made climate change has grown in ferocity since the leak of thousands of documents on the subject from the University of East Anglia (UEA) on the eve of the Copenhagen climate summit last December.
Free-market, anti-climate change think-tanks such as the Atlas Economic Research Foundation in the US and the International Policy Network in the UK have received grants totaling hundreds of thousands of pounds from the multinational energy company Exxon / Mobil. Both organizations have funded international seminars pulling together climate change deniers from across the globe.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143591 Feb 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Great Pretender
http://www.youtube.com/embed/6Zy297Xgr8Q
Everything I post is factual and nobody can disprove me.

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FreedomWorks is closely tied to its founder, corporate lobbyist and former Republican Congressman Dick Armey, whose former lobbying firm DLA Piper that he resigned in August 2009, represents Bristol Myers Squibb, among other pharmaceutical companies.

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The Wall Street front group FreedomWorks is mobilizing get out the vote efforts for Brown this weekend. FreedomWorks organized the very first tea party protests, and has used its extensive staff and resources to mobilize rallies and advocacy campaigns on behalf of corporate interests. Dick Armey, who as a corporate lobbyist represented AIG, Lehman Brothers, and Merrill Lynch during the bailouit, is the leader of FreedomWorks. FreedomWorks is also funded and chaired by Steve Forbes and Frank Sands of Sands Capital Management.

– The Wall Street front group Club for Growth is strongly “boosting” Brown and is expected to run ads in support for him. According to recent disclosures, the Club for Growth is funded by a $1.4 million dollar donation from investor Stephen Jacksons of Stephens Groups Inc, a $1.4 million dollar donation from broker Richard Gilder, and $210,000-$630,000 donations from at least 10 other investors and financial industry professionals. The Club is also supporting a slate of candidates to repeal health reform, while its other endorsed candidates have opposed a financial truth commission
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#143592 Feb 21, 2013
Bless them.
Democracynow org

Bay Shore, NY

#143593 Feb 21, 2013
Forum wrote:
Bless them.
Amen.

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Tea Party climate change deniers funded by BP and other major polluters
Midterm election campaigns of Tea Party favorites DeMint and Inhofe have received over $240,000 / 24 October 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/33n3xvq
BP and several other big European companies are funding the midterm election campaigns of Tea Party favourites who deny the existence of global warming or oppose Barack Obama's energy agenda, the Guardian has learned.
An analysis of campaign finance by Climate Action Network Europe (Cane) found nearly 80% of campaign donations from a number of major European firms were directed towards senators who blocked action on climate change. These included incumbents who have been embraced by the Tea Party such as Jim DeMint, a Republican from South Carolina, and the notorious climate change denier James Inhofe, a Republican from Oklahoma.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/24/t...

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