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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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There is confusion here.
I said it was an adjective. Oxford says so. Oxford rules for English as L'Académie française rules for French, Cervantez for Spanish and Dante for Italian.
LRS, in all fairness, said it was more like an article. He's right if you rely on Webster, which is okay, it's American and colloquial. But okay.
The way I read the convo it seemed exactly the opposite.

An in an indirect article 100% of the time in English. It's used with words that begin with a vowel as opposed to "a."

I'll take a look at the OED, but first I must nap.

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One of the joys of flying low flying aircraft is that you can really see what is happening on the ground. You get to watch the farmers from planting time until harvest. Even while driving long-haul trucks I enjoyed driving the back highways for the very same reason.
Never cuss a farmer or rancher with your mouth full.

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And I am sure you can back that up? Or is it just another of your opinions?
Now, knowing Jacques, he will demand all my links for the past two years.
I don't bother asking for your links any more. You state someting outrageous and run away. Where's, for example that one that says 90% of gun killing are done by criminals. That the dems commit more fraud than Repubs at election time?(they steal more signs? ha ha). It was a flat-out fabrication, you know it, yet you incredibly asked me to disprove it. Well, then why don't you disprove what I said about Standard and Poor? God, the rich guys must love you and your ilk, you fight for them, defend them, and at NO COST WHAT IS SO EVER. YOU'RE FREE, GLORY BE. You're like their assets in the Bahamas and Caymans.

I could do like you. But no, and in this case, everyone knew S&P and other credit raters handed AAA status to secndary mortgages,in cahoots with the brokers. How come you don't know that? Anyhow, check it out, hope the link works, I'm not having any luck these days. If it doesn't work, just google "Standard and Poor AAA ratings of the mortgage market just ahead of the bubble bursting".
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Sorry, lol, forgot the link

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I wonder how many other presidents have gotten letters like this?
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I find the letter to be quite well-written, polite and civil, with due respect given the president.
I also find the letter stupid and ignorant.
Dodging a question again! I bet no president before Obama has received this sort of letter from any politician group.
Oh, here in the U.S., sheriffs are ELECTED!
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Excerpt from Wikepedia,Rogue. It's just now you're aware of rating agencies like S&P cooking the books & issuing AAA ratings? Really? And they had the nerve to punish the US by lowering its credit rating,maybe to get even with the govt and show that it & of course Obama were at fault? Keep fighting for the Romneys & Trumps of this world,they love you but don't expect any tips. READ :

Impact on the crisis

Credit rating agencies are under scrutiny for giving investment-grade, "money safe" ratings to securitization transactions (CDOs and MBSs) based on subprime mortgage loans. These high ratings encouraged a flow of global investor funds into these securities, funding the housing bubble in the U.S.[2]

An estimated $3.2 trillion in loans were made to homeowners with bad credit and undocumented incomes (e.g., subprime or Alt-A mortgages) between 2002 and 2007. These mortgages could be bundled into MBS and CDO securities that received high ratings and therefore could be sold to global investors. Higher ratings were believed justified by various credit enhancements including over-collateralization (i.e., pledging collateral in excess of debt issued), credit default insurance, and equity investors willing to bear the first losses. Economist Joseph Stiglitz stated: "I view the rating agencies as one of the key culprits...They were the party that performed the alchemy that converted the securities from F-rated to A-rated. The banks could not have done what they did without the complicity of the rating agencies." Without the AAA ratings , demand for these securities would have been considerably less. Bank writedowns and losses on these investments totaled $523 billion as of September 2008.[3][4]

[edit] Competitive pressure to lower rating standards

The ratings of these securities was a lucrative business for the rating agencies, accounting for just under half of Moody's total ratings revenue in 2007. Through 2007, ratings companies enjoyed record revenue, profits and share prices. The rating companies earned as much as three times more for grading these complex products than corporate bonds, their traditional business. Rating agencies also competed with each other to rate particular MBS and CDO securities issued by investment banks, which critics argued contributed to lower rating standards. Interviews with rating agency senior managers indicate the competitive pressure to rate the CDO's favorably was strong within the firms. This rating business was their "golden goose" (which laid the proverbial golden egg or wealth) in the words of one manager.[5]

Author Upton Sinclair (1878–1968) famously stated: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it."[6] This competitive pressure and the resulting profits gave a personal financial incentive to management to lower standards.

Internal rating agency emails from before the time the credit markets deteriorated, discovered and released publicly by U.S. congressional investigators, suggest that some rating agency employees suspected at the time that lax standards for rating structured credit products would produce negative results.[7] For example, one email between colleagues at Standard & Poor's states "Rating agencies continue to create and [sic] even bigger monster--the CDO market. Let's hope we are all wealthy and retired by the time this house of cards falters."[8]

(edit] Conflicts of interest
Critics claim that conflicts of interest were involved, as rating agencies are paid by the firms that organize and sell the debt to investors, such as investment banks.[9] John C. Bogle wrote in 2005 that there is an inherent conflict of interest when a professional firm is also publicly traded, as the pressure to grow and increase profits is relatively stronger, which may detract from the quality of work performed.[10] Moody's became a public firm in 2001, while Standard & Poor's is part of the publicly traded McGraw-Hill Companies

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Well, many pages and I could not find your point about S&P. Could you tell me which page please.
Next, I always get suspicious when ANY organization labels itself as nonpartisan, which Milken is. Since my annetta went up over the nonpartisan label I did some research like who funds them. Who are the people who run it and what I found out is that they are LEFT of center. But then, you would not reference anything for the right to back your opinions.
Soooo, show us where S&P screwed up!!!
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Geez! mistake has been made

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Excerpt from Wikepedia,Rogue. It's just now you're aware of rating agencies like S&P cooking the books & issuing AAA ratings? Really? And they had the nerve to punish the US by lowering its credit rating,maybe to get even with the govt and show that it & of course Obama were at fault? Keep fighting for the Romneys & Trumps of this world,they love you but don't expect any tips. READ :
Impact on the crisis
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Internal rating agency emails from before the time the credit markets deteriorated, discovered and released publicly by U.S. congressional investigators, suggest that some rating agency employees suspected at the time that lax standards for rating structured credit products would produce negative results.[7] For example, one email between colleagues at Standard & Poor's states "Rating agencies continue to create and [sic] even bigger monster--the CDO market. Let's hope we are all wealthy and retired by the time this house of cards falters."[8]
(edit] Conflicts of interest
Critics claim that conflicts of interest were involved, as rating agencies are paid by the firms that organize and sell the debt to investors, such as investment banks.[9] John C. Bogle wrote in 2005 that there is an inherent conflict of interest when a professional firm is also publicly traded, as the pressure to grow and increase profits is relatively stronger, which may detract from the quality of work performed.[10] Moody's became a public firm in 2001, while Standard & Poor's is part of the publicly traded McGraw-Hill Companies
I don't see your point. You blamed S&P for not properly grading financial institutions yet you show no proof. And you did not mention Moody's either.
But even if they did miss something ten , does not mean they are incorrect today.
Besides S&P, has anyone else down graded the U.S.'s credit rating?
How about Egan-Jones? How about the Fitch Group? Are they just as evil as S&P is? Are they just a WRONG as you think S&P is?!?
And the ONLY reason why you pointed out S&P is because ..... OBAMA did!!!

Wiki;From the Obama administration
Almost immediately after S&P announced the downgrade, first reported after 8 p.m.[17] on a Friday night, Obama administration officials began to publicly criticize S&P's decision

Jacques, you are little more than an Obama parrot!

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Are those his only errors? LOL!
Maybe to a serf or a foreigner who doesn't understand or never appreciated America to begin with.
To Real Americans he is:
"the man who killed the American dream"?
"the man who sold America out to socialism"?
"the man who worked in stride for the NWO"?
"the dumb fuch who never realised what America meant"?
"the man who eased the greatest nation on earth into 'just another place to live'"?
Sadly my grand-kids will read that in a book one day.
I think you meant to say Obama awakened you from your dream. I’m a real American and I think you’re nuts and I’m just as certain your grandkids will as well.

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I've never accused anyone of being anti-American. But I have said that American Lady is anti and un-American, what with her quoting Pravda, yes, Pravda, as an authority on the conduct of the administration of the United States. You find that to be patriotic? And none of that crap about killing the messenger. Hey, the messenger is Pravda for heaven's sake and she worships it.
Also, saying one person is anti-American because she clearly is , yes, a person, is not the same as accusing the president of the United States of being anti-American. What's the matter with you? Do tell us how he is anti-American.
Carter and Teddy Kennedy went to the Soviet Union to consult with the Russians on how to retake the AMERICAN White House? Are you daf? Totally daf? I don't recall that visit but it probably happened. It's the purpose of the visit as you state it that is phantasmagoric. At the heigtht of the cold war, with the USSR having just invaded Afghanistan, Carter went to Moscow to get the White House back? Now, Rogue, if you cannot prove this with impeccable sources, say so now and apologize.
As to Jane Fonda, she had every right to protest the war and she was right doing it, as it was wrong and cost 55,000 U.S.lives for nothihg. Having said that, AND READ CAREFULLY, she had no business in Hanoi comforting the enemny. She should have been arrested upon her return to the U.S. and put on trial. I still like her, though, fabulous actress. But the way she went about it was wrong.
Kerry's meeting with Vietnamese officials was okay and correct, as were Kissinger's meetings with LeDucTho. What is even more incredible, and you failed to mention it, is that those two expletive deleted s.o.b's got the Nobel Prize! Wow. How the hell do you stop a war short of victory , which was impossible, if you don't negotiate? Evn God negotiated with the Devil, no? Think of His wager with Job, think of Jesus in the desert.
Your view of politics, the background of it, the history, comtemporary or otherwise, is based on hate and prejudice. Not good. There are so many books you should read on the subject, books of all persuasions in order to arrive at a sound unbiased judgement. Try it. Hmmm, too late.
Well said! Good post.

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By the way, Obama promised that my health care would not go up. My co-pay for my prescription meds went fro $7 per prescription in 2009, to $12 in 2011, to $17 this year.
So now my meds cost me $68 per month for what I used to pay just $28 and that does not include my annual deductible either!!!
I will let you do the math but my out of pocket medical bills have gone way, way up!!!
As usual, Obama lied!

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In the black neighborhoods, where food stamp amounts allotted no longer feeds the people, they must go to beg at churches for food.
The workers at the church get the best available food and the minions get what little is left, most of which they do not even like.
If you apply for food stamps now, they do not expedite help for you even if you are starving.
You get a small jar of peanut butter, with no bread or crackers to put it on, and two small boxes of corn chex to last a family of three up to potentially up to 2 weeks or more if help actually even comes at all.
You also get 2 pints or quarts of fake milk as well.
The local Kroger's shelves are becoming bare as we speak.
The fights over food are almost upon us.
The end is certainly near.
Are the white recipients getting enough to feed themselves GB?

You funny man GB!
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Sorry, Rogue Moron, ratings agencies failed miserably in contributing the financial collapse by rating junk as investing grade AAA.

For a better indication, check the bond markets. Interest rates on long term bonds are at historic lows. People are lining up in droves to loan the US money. No one gives a hoot what the ratings agencies say, but it makes for explosive news among the uneducated right.

“Facts trump speculation”

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I'd be willing to bet you've never spit on anyone! You're too much of a wuss. Now, why do you feel the need to defend Obama on a daily basis? Can lil slopuke answer the simple question? LMAO
Asked and answered, moron. Can you read?

Here's laughing at you, loser.
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One of the joys of flying low flying aircraft is that you can really see what is happening on the ground. You get to watch the farmers from planting time until harvest. Even while driving long-haul trucks I enjoyed driving the back highways for the very same reason.
Never cuss a farmer or rancher with your mouth full.
God made a Farmer
http://www.youtube.com/RAM...
Agriculture is the most heavily subsidized industry ever. They're the biggest beneficiaries of good ol' fashioned US socialism, and they are usually the biggest critics of all other government programs.

It's called hypocrisy.
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I wonder how many other presidents have gotten letters like this?
http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_files/2n ...
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Dodging a question again! I bet no president before Obama has received this sort of letter from any politician group.
Oh, here in the U.S., sheriffs are ELECTED!
1. I did not dodge. I said it was a decent letter and stupid;
2. How do I know how that letter rates as opposed to other lettes the WH gets? I haven't seen any others;
2. But I'll tell you what, here in Canada, the great majority of ALL police forces, municipal, provincial and federal are AGAINST the watering down of gun control laws that the conservative govt is trying to implement. I'd wager the great majority of police in the US is FOR gun control. I didn't say gun suppression, I said gun control.

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Obama just sacked Gen. James “Mad Dog” Mattis from U.S. Central Command without telling him. In fact no one told him! He found out in a press release!! And the press release does not even explain why he was relieved!!!
Obama has utter contempt for our military.
And comtempt for the Constitution. See what happens to those who seek the truth.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-failed...
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Well, many pages and I could not find your point about S&P. Could you tell me which page please.
Next, I always get suspicious when ANY organization labels itself as nonpartisan, which Milken is. Since my annetta went up over the nonpartisan label I did some research like who funds them. Who are the people who run it and what I found out is that they are LEFT of center. But then, you would not reference anything for the right to back your opinions.
Soooo, show us where S&P screwed up!!!
Page 2 and see my next post, they name names

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