Why don't you try this on for size with reference to your first sentence, Rogue?Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Well, why was the last time the Catholic Church killed a gay guy?
Oh, you do know Thomas Paine was active in the French revolution and he saw no problem with cutting the heads of those evil rich YOUple. Nice guy Thomas was. And a flaming hypocrite.
From Wiki: He wrote the Rights of Man (1791), in part a defense of the French Revolution against its critics.
Actually that was a Red Herring as I knew you, or Jacques, would NEVER answer the FIRST sentence!
So Poopo, can you answer my first sentence?
Oh, this is for everyone else, Thomas Paine wrote Rights of Man in 1791 and the Reign of Terror, as Poppo says, did not start until the FOLLOWING year.
Yes, he was arrested by the French, imprisoned in Paris, then released in 1794.. No, the French did not execute him!
Now, how about attempting to answer my FIRST sentence!
which says :
When Will The Vatican Apologise To Gays?
It's time the Pope got down on his knees and apologised for the Catholic persecution of lesbians and gay men.
The Vatican last week offered a mealy-mouthed, half-baked apology to Jewish people for the role of "some" Catholics during the Nazi era. It pointedly refused to condemn the failure of leading clerics, including Pope Pius XII, to speak out against Nazism. Nor was there any acknowledgement that the Catholic Church backed the Jew-murdering regime in Croatia, or that after the war Church officials in Rome helped Nazi war criminals escape to South America. In short, the Vatican's so-called apology white-washed Catholic collusion with fascism.
If the Pope cannot give an unequivocal apology for Church anti-semitism, the likelihood of an apology for homophobia is less than zero. Unrepentant and heartless as ever, the Vatican shows not a shred of remorse for the Church's past and present persecution of lesbians and gay men.
In medieval times, "abominable sodomites" were burnt at the stake on the orders of Papal Inquisitors. As recently as the early nineteenth century, homosexuals were still being strung up on gallows all over Britain - with the blessing of the Catholic Church. This persecution isn't over yet. The Vatican is still crucifying queers.
The Catholic Catechism condemns homosexual acts as a "grave depravity", "intrinsically disordered" and "contrary to natural law".
In 1992, the Vatican officially rejected the concept of lesbian and gay "human rights", asserting that there is "no right" to homosexuality. It added that the civil liberties of homosexuals can be "legitimately limited". While condemning "unjust" discrimination, the Catholic leadership declared that some forms of anti-gay discrimination are "not unjust" and may even be "obligatory".
Denouncing homosexuality as an "aberrant deviation", four years ago the Pope condemned proposals by the European Parliament to remove discrimination as an "attack on the family". Simultaneously, the Catholic leader in England, Cardinal Basil Hume, refused to support an equal age of consent, later justifying his stance with the claim that the Church cannot endorse human rights for "acts which she teaches are morally wrong".
In 1996, the Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore, explicitly urged Catholics to vote against political candidates who back equal rights for lesbians and gay men, describing homosexual equality as a "deviant trend".
When will we get an Papal apology for Catholic homophobia? Probably never. If the Vatican won't say sorry, perhaps Cardinal Hume will? Over to you Basil.
Metropolis, 26 March 1998.
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