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It was a play for the cameras. Wake up and see it for what it is. He did the same thing with the Healthcare bill, if I'm not mistaken. Typical politics. Photo ops and image! That's the name of the game, unfortunately.
True, but don't they all do it, him and his predecessors.

You did not comment on the NRA ad that criticized Obama for having agents guarding his kids. Do you really believe they should go around unguarded? Do you really believe that my children, your children, are as much at risk when in public than the president's kids?
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My gosh. The NRA has done more harm than the "Occupiers" have done and will do in the next one million years. How many people have been shot dead thanks to the NRA's influence on lawmakers, influence used to stifle gun laws and contols, culminating in a nation that has 88 guns per 100 citizens, meaning more than 1.5 guns per adult. Occupiers? What're you talking about? Hitler reportedly never killed anyone personally. Yet...
Where did 88 per 100 come from? What portion of those 88 are in the hands of criminals? So, you've heard the plan, what's your opinion of the proposal?
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It wasn't a large hospital and didn't have that many deliveries/year. That was mentioned as well as the cost replacing the two doctors that were leaving because of OCare. They were going into a more specialized field. I think the nearest place to go was like 40 miles away.
You wrote "That was mentioned as well as the cost replacing the two doctors ". Right. Why would the hospital bear the cost of the doctors? I thought insurance or patients paid the costs. My friend is paying out-of-pocket, the hospital pays zilch. It just receives the money is all. Incidentally, he's in hock for years and years. Not surprised that abortion is an option. FYI,I'm againast abortion except in rare, very rare cases, but am also free choice , I don't pretend to know all the answers.
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Exactly the same speeches we heard when medicare came out ion 1965. Bravado and meaningless. PM and his ministers were threatened. If you takle a poll on Medicare, and you can look it up, 90%, though not totally happy with it,(normal) would want to keep it. Yet, at its inception, more than half the population was against medicare.
Just telling you what I was told by people who work in the field. The story about the hospital and no more deliveries supports what they have said. The major problem in our healthcare was insurance companies. That's what needed fixing.
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True, but don't they all do it, him and his predecessors.
You did not comment on the NRA ad that criticized Obama for having agents guarding his kids. Do you really believe they should go around unguarded? Do you really believe that my children, your children, are as much at risk when in public than the president's kids?
C'mon man. Do you not find it the least bit hypocritical that as the president is signing new gun laws, his kids are under the protection of firearms? That's exactly what the NRA proposed! Guard our schools!
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You wrote "That was mentioned as well as the cost replacing the two doctors ". Right. Why would the hospital bear the cost of the doctors? I thought insurance or patients paid the costs. My friend is paying out-of-pocket, the hospital pays zilch. It just receives the money is all. Incidentally, he's in hock for years and years. Not surprised that abortion is an option. FYI,I'm againast abortion except in rare, very rare cases, but am also free choice , I don't pretend to know all the answers.
The hospital would have to interview applicants, train the new doctors, etc. That was the cost they were talking about. I'm not sure what you are referring to with "insurance" and "patients pay". I'm confused, you're against abortion but you're also pro choice? I don't get it.

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I just got through talking about this Yoyo who things islands, like Guam, can capsize. And like a typical Yoyo he can not understand that there are Black Conservatives who feel the same way about gun control. Is Rep. Hank Johnson calling these Black Conservatives Racists?
Yep, Ken Blackwell must me racist against Black people because not only is he a Republican, he is also a member of the NRA!!!
Oh, there are many others black members of the NRA of which some are ..... Democrats!!!! Are they racist against Blacks too?!?

Rep. Hank Johnson on NRA:‘They Still Cannot Get Over’ That Obama Is ‘Black’
By Matt Cover; January 16, 2013

CNSNews.com )- Representative Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said that the National Rifle Association (NRA) opposed President Barack Obama's gun control plans because the group “still cannot get over” the fact that the president is “black.”
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-hank-john...
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The hospital would have to interview applicants, train the new doctors, etc. That was the cost they were talking about. I'm not sure what you are referring to with "insurance" and "patients pay". I'm confused, you're against abortion but you're also pro choice? I don't get it.
Or they could go to Cuba to hire new doctors where their doctors are soooo smart they can go through medical school in just one year!!!

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You wrote "That was mentioned as well as the cost replacing the two doctors ". Right. Why would the hospital bear the cost of the doctors? I thought insurance or patients paid the costs. My friend is paying out-of-pocket, the hospital pays zilch. It just receives the money is all. Incidentally, he's in hock for years and years. Not surprised that abortion is an option. FYI,I'm againast abortion except in rare, very rare cases, but am also free choice , I don't pretend to know all the answers.
In most hospitals doctors are independent agents. But in Public (government) hospitals, they are employees of the hospital (government).
Here in Florida the most you can sue any government for is capped at $100,000 regardless if you have a real case. So here in Jacksonville if they take you to Sands Hospital and they screw up and crippled for life, it is $100K maximum you will get.
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Rogue, he's filthy rich, which is why he retired. The fees he probably charged, bet he could've retired at 35. How much did he charge for a routine visit? That'll give you a clue.
My good friend and mentor passed away September 3,2012 at the age of 94. He had been a doctor in the Army during World War II and worked in private practice with two partners for many years before he and his nurse wife set up their own office. He made very little money and by the time he was in his late sixties most of his patients where on medicare. He was actually spending more than he was taking in and once told me that he wanted to retire but the government would require him to pay $166,000 to transfer his patients to someone else. Not all doctors are 'filthy rich'. He lived one block from the house his father lived in when he was a teenager,and drove a forty year old car. He went to college on a football scholarship,as a star quarterback who also played on defense.

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I just love Birthers!

They are Dumb....but extremely entertaining!
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Or they could go to Cuba to hire new doctors where their doctors are soooo smart they can go through medical school in just one year!!!
Where'd you get that? Medicine in Cuba is first-rate, in spite of a dire lack of equipment and medicine thanks to sanctions. Ask the 1,000s of U.S. citizens who travel there for treatment and surgery. Life expectancy is almost at the U.S. level and will soon surpass it. Maybe their doctors have something to do with that. When Castro came along, life expectancy was in the mid-50s range. Now in the high 70s. And don't come back calling me a Castro lover. I don't like him but you would not understand in a million years why he was welcome in 1959 and, for the last 35 years, no longer. The Dom Repub, Haiti, and Jamaica could use a Castro right now, but not for 60 years! Or even 50, or 40, r 30 or 20. Do your damn reforms, clean the apparatus and get the hell out, restore democracy. That's where Castro erred. But, some good stuff remains, like doctors and education.
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<quoted text>My good friend and mentor passed away September 3,2012 at the age of 94. He had been a doctor in the Army during World War II and worked in private practice with two partners for many years before he and his nurse wife set up their own office. He made very little money and by the time he was in his late sixties most of his patients where on medicare. He was actually spending more than he was taking in and once told me that he wanted to retire but the government would require him to pay $166,000 to transfer his patients to someone else. Not all doctors are 'filthy rich'. He lived one block from the house his father lived in when he was a teenager,and drove a forty year old car. He went to college on a football scholarship,as a star quarterback who also played on defense.
Before we had medicare, we also had devoted dcctors like the one you described. I'm one of 8 children, same delivering doctor, my father said he charged nothing for half of us and very little for the others. I'm sure you have plenty of those too at the moment.

Is the $166,000 fee a medicare regulation? When'd it come into force?

BTW, we have set fees for all doctos in Canada. I can assure you that none are on welfare, they do quite well but yes, we lose quite a few to the US as they can earn double to quadruple down there. Many do come back eventually, and some at retirement when they no longer have medicare coverage which they get here free of charge. Personally, I'd charge them or make them wait for free coverage until they've lived the equivalent number of years in Canada that they spent in the states. Seems only fair.
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FFS- wrote:
I just love Birthers!
They are Dumb....but extremely entertaining!
That they are.
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The hospital would have to interview applicants, train the new doctors, etc. That was the cost they were talking about. I'm not sure what you are referring to with "insurance" and "patients pay". I'm confused, you're against abortion but you're also pro choice? I don't get it.
Pro choice means I respect others' viewpoint on abortion, though I am basically against it. It's just that I don't think I'm an authority on whether it should be allowed or not, tht I am right and they are wrong. Good arguments on both sides. In my church, masturbation and loss of sperm was akin to abortion. See what I mean? When is the child a child in the mother's womb? The day after conception, 3, 30 days, 2 months? I don't know. Oh, and unless it's been revised, the catholic church still condemns masturbation and waste of sperm.

I meant, who pays the hospital and doctor fees, whatever those fees are? Either the govt through medicare pays, insurance pays or patient pays. Either way, and no matter what the cost, hospital just receives what it charges. BTW, their excuse of having to review applicants and train new doctors as being costly is hard to believe. Where are the costs? It's all done by personnel that are on staff.
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I just got through talking about this Yoyo who things islands, like Guam, can capsize. And like a typical Yoyo he can not understand that there are Black Conservatives who feel the same way about gun control. Is Rep. Hank Johnson calling these Black Conservatives Racists?
Yep, Ken Blackwell must me racist against Black people because not only is he a Republican, he is also a member of the NRA!!!
Oh, there are many others black members of the NRA of which some are ..... Democrats!!!! Are they racist against Blacks too?!?
Rep. Hank Johnson on NRA:‘They Still Cannot Get Over’ That Obama Is ‘Black’
By Matt Cover; January 16, 2013
CNSNews.com )- Representative Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said that the National Rifle Association (NRA) opposed President Barack Obama's gun control plans because the group “still cannot get over” the fact that the president is “black.”
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-hank-john...
Racism and guns. Who here tied the two? I haven't seen anything like that unless I missed it.

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Where it all started,,,




Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago.

221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin
House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel
The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .
Of course, they're all blaming each other.
Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he is going to 'fix'Washington politics for us???

George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.
Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is...that's right, also in the big house.
And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago. That is because he is fighting being sent to...that's right, the big house.

The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.

But you know what?
As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population ofChicago,nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
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Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago.
221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.
President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin
House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel
The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .
Of course, they're all blaming each other.
Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!
State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!
Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he is going to 'fix'Washington politics for us???
George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.
Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is...that's right, also in the big house.
And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago. That is because he is fighting being sent to...that's right, the big house.
The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.
But you know what?
As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population ofChicago,nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
How frivolous your statement : "221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US."

Chicago is surrounded by cites and states that have no gun laws. Who's to stop anyone from bringing guns from outside Chicago?

At any rate, how do you know it would not be worse if there WERE no gun laws in Chicago?

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Rogue, he's filthy rich, which is why he retired. The fees he probably charged, bet he could've retired at 35. How much did he charge for a routine visit? That'll give you a clue.
Oh, YOU know he is filthy rich? How do you know that? I did not get an individual doctor's bill because he was an "employee" of the hospital. I explained this to you just an hour earlier but I guess you have attention deficient disorder!
About 18 years ago I got a listeria infection and made it to a hospital in Grand Isle, NE. I was very sick and it took me an hour before I realized it was a Catholic hospital. Anyway, He had given me an antibiotic, and anti-nausea medication and Tylenol ... all by injection.
Since I seemed to be the only patient in this small ER we started to talk as I recovered. Suddenly he said that he too had thought about taking up long-haul trucking.
Do you remember what Rick Nelson said in his song 'Garden Party'?
Someone opened up a closet door and out stepped Johnny B. Goode
Playing guitar like a-ringin' a bell and lookin' like he should
If you gotta play at garden parties, I wish you a lotta luck
But if memories were all I sang, I rather drive a truck
Yes, I even met a retired Full Bull Air Force Colonel driving truck. His wife wanted to stay at home and he could no longer fly because of a head injury. I was surprised how many aviators like myself were out driving long-haul trucks.

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