BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justus Liebig

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#137116
Jan 15, 2013
 
Naturalization Act of 1790
Jacques Ottawa

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#137117
Jan 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
By the way, most voting crimes are not prosecuted either. And you Loony-Tooney-Lefties keep saying that since only a few people have been convicted of voting fraud, we should not require voter ID to vote.
Oh, most voting crimes, like all other crimes, are committed by ....Liberals. Liberals always seem to rationalize their criminal activities.
Can you prove the above? Been asking you for a lot of proof lately, yet you never return with any. How come?

Oh, how about a comment on that Muslim country called Cameroon? Funny, you never came back after I corrected you on that.
Learn to Read

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#137118
Jan 15, 2013
 
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
<quoted text>WKA was a CITIZEN, NOT a NBC.
That judge was STUPID, just like YOU!
Tacky rants can't change the rule of law - sorry Birfoon - you may be less wrong than DufusDale (who is so stupid as to claim that he wasn't even a citizen)- but you're still pathetic
Learn to Read

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>by the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which the 14th was built from, no person which is subject to a foreign power will acquire a US citizenship, they are not eligible to be subject to the jurisdiction, thereof.

Gray attempts to obfuscate the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” using dicta:
The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words,“All persons born in the United States” by the addition “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases — children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State…

Not only was Gray not sure of what he was stating, he actually was stating the process that was used by some states prior to the Civil Rights Act of 1866. The Act plainly stated who would be citizens, plus it was the first national law dealing with citizenship.
Still wrong - but still spamming the same fable.

Voeltz v. Obama (2nd suit Florida 2012):“In addition, to the extent that the complaint alleges that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” even though born int he United States, the Court is in agreement with other courts that have considered this issue, namely, that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purpose, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.[Citations to Wong, Hollander, Ankeny].
Affirmative Diversity

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#137120
Jan 15, 2013
 
The ObamaPhone lady speaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch... #!
Jacques Ottawa

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Does this mean that you admit that "ensconceded" is NOT a word?
BTW, you spelled it wrong again.
Yes, and as usual, you don't read. Ensconced. There I already admitted I was wrong and apologized for having corrected you.

Okay, now what is the biggest mistake of all? Spelling ensconced wrong or continuing to shout over all the rooftops that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen in spite of the house , senate, supreme court, all the governors, various repub foes, etc not questioning his status ? I'll take MY spelling mistake any time against your HUMONGOUS Obama BC mistake.

Now, I said I was wrong and apologized for my 'ensconded"(sic). Your turn now to say you're wrong on Obama's BC and apologize to everyone. Fair is fair, no?
Justice Dale

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Justus Liebig wrote:
That any alien who shal have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof,. Naturaliza
Yeah, right, the First Congress did not understand jurisdiction of the United States.
LOL
they sure did, you will notice that they did not say "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Only a citizen is subject to the jurisdiction, aliens are here by reciprocal treaties only and are never subject to the Constitution
Justice Dale

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Learn to Read wrote:
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Still wrong - but still spamming the same fable.
Voeltz v. Obama (2nd suit Florida 2012):“In addition, to the extent that the complaint alleges that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” even though born int he United States, the Court is in agreement with other courts that have considered this issue, namely, that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purpose, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.[Citations to Wong, Hollander, Ankeny].
by the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which the 14th was built from, no person which is subject to a foreign power will acquire a US citizenship, they are not eligible to be subject to the jurisdiction, thereof.

Gray attempts to obfuscate the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” using dicta:
The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words,“All persons born in the United States” by the addition “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases — children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State…

Not only was Gray not sure of what he was stating, he actually was stating the process that was used by some states prior to the Civil Rights Act of 1866. The Act plainly stated who would be citizens, plus it was the first national law dealing with citizenship.

Looks like y'all have about 114+ years of bad law to correct, Gray tried to take the citizenship law back to what it was before the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Chop-chop!!! LMAO!!!
Learn to Read

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#137126
Jan 15, 2013
 
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>they sure did, you will notice that they did not say "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Only a citizen is subject to the jurisdiction, aliens are here by reciprocal treaties only and are never subject to the Constitution
And yet another court refuses to adopt play law:

Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012):“It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Justice Dale

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Learn to Read wrote:
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Still wrong - but still spamming the same fable.
Voeltz v. Obama (2nd suit Florida 2012):“In addition, to the extent that the complaint alleges that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” even though born int he United States, the Court is in agreement with other courts that have considered this issue, namely, that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purpose, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.[Citations to Wong, Hollander, Ankeny].
what is with all of the A? LMAO!!!
Justice Dale

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Learn to Read wrote:
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And yet another court refuses to adopt play law:
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012):“It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Like I stated, y'all got 114+ years of bad law to correct!! LMAO!!!
Chop-chop!!!
Learn to Read

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#137129
Jan 15, 2013
 
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>what is with all of the A? LMAO!!!
Facts and law? I can understand why those concern you.

“Reduce immigration levels”

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#137130
Jan 15, 2013
 
Mark Levin Rips Colon Powell: Defends Birthers
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Jan 15, 2013
 
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Like I stated, y'all got 114+ years of bad law to correct!! LMAO!!!
Chop-chop!!!
Like I stated, take your fable on a long walk down a short pier.

Spam on loser.(Don't forget to click your heels three times as you repeat your wish)
Justice Dale

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Learn to Read wrote:
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Facts and law? I can understand why those concern you.
my only concern, I didn't put them there. So don't be fuching with my post.
Justice Dale

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Learn to Read wrote:
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Like I stated, take your fable on a long walk down a short pier.
Spam on loser.(Don't forget to click your heels three times as you repeat your wish)
pull your head out and get busy correcting those 114+ years of BOGUS law.
Chop-chop!!!
FISTa LIEberal

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Why do they use your picture for the definition?
Have you looked in the mirror lately? There's your answer!
FISTa LIEberal

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Grand Birther wrote:
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You probably meant to capitalize English, right?
We'll overlook your simple mistake this time.
I guess you are too "case sensitive" don't like english much, little monkee?
FISTa LIEberal

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Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Why do they use your picture for the definition?
Look at you!

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>they sure did, you will notice that they did not say "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Only a citizen is subject to the jurisdiction, aliens are here by reciprocal treaties only and are never subject to the Constitution
Under the jurisdiction of the US is EXACTLY the same as subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Grow up.

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