BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Continuing with the response to ThePatriot:

Re:‘If Obummer was born at the hospital he publiclly claims he was born at, why does he not give that hospital permission to confirm something he has already made public?”

Answer:(1) as already shown, the hospital already has repeatedly confirmed that Obama was born there. Birthers simply have not reported those facts; (2) even if the hospital did not confirm, the birth certificate itself, and the confirmation by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor) and the Index Data, and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send those notices) and the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley, and the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from the nearest foreign country, and the fact that Obama’s Kenyan relatives NEVER said that he was born there but instead said that he was born in Hawaii in two separate interviews---would be more than enough proof.

Re: You obot SHEEPLE are the epitome of "brainwashed"!

Answer: I never call names, but you have ignored a great deal of factual evidence, and that is a sign of being irrational.
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Do you only read and not get information from all sorts of sources? You must live in the Obummer SHEEPLE bubble of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil! What's wrong poopoo, was that clip a little to long for your attention span? Did you actually listen to it? Bet not! Blather on SHEEPLE twit! Ignore the obvious! CP has learned well from Obummer claim to be one thing but you're actually another, and rip up the people you say you stand for! What an untrustworthy human being CP is! The GOP should throw him out! Like Obummer he is nothing more than a wolf in sheep clothing infiltrating the very people he is against while claiming to be one of them!
We consider all sources before commenting...unlike yourself. You depend on FOx and the Aryan Nation Gazette.
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GOP(guns over people). Brought to you by the nra.
Right on bra!!!!!! LOL
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Re:“If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it.“
Answer: They HAVE, twice.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-...
Those two confirmations that Obama was born in Kapiolani are IN ADDITION to Obama’s long form birth certificate saying that he was born in Kapiolani, and both the Republican and Democrat governors of Hawaii saying that he was born in Kapiolani and the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital of a child to a woman named Stanley.
Re:“A multi layered….’
Answer: Layers are normal in PDF
Re:“altered, multiple text, BC….”
Answer: It is not altered. Nor does the fact that multiple fonts were used indicate that the birth certificate is forged. Only birther “experts” have claimed that it is forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, and they CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe the “experts.” And birther sites have not shown you these real experts:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Re:“lacking the official state seal of Hawaii and appropriate signatures…”
Answer: BOTH the short form birth certificate and the long form birth certificate have the official seal and appropriate signatures. The seal on the short form is shown in great detail on FactCheck’s site. The long form with the seal was shown to the White House press room and one reporter stated that she had felt the seal.
LOL! The hospital listed by Obummer on his new alleged official BC, lacking the official Hawaiian state seal, took down a letter posted on their website by Obummer making claims he was born there. They were immediately overwhelmed with request to confirm Obummers claims but would not and pulled the letter off of their website. There has been no public or written confirmation of anyone from the hospital saying he was indeed born in their hospital nor have they said Obummmer has given them permission to do so.

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GOP(guns over people). Brought to you by the nra.
Ah, when do bad guns stop shooting? When good guns show up!!!
And it does not matter if it is a cop or a teacher with a concealed carry permit.
It is fact, over 90% of all murders are done by known criminals or mentally ill people. But instead of locking up the 10% of the people who do 90% of the shootings, the Libtards wants want to remove guns from the 90% who do not! That is call Libtardian logic.

“Facts trump speculation”

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>no everything in your Stupidville is assbackwards, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. If they were, they would be called citizens, just as stated in the 14th Citizenship Clause.
Not only are aliens subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, they must be subject to the jurisdiction of the US prior to becoming citizens. That's been the LAW since the days of the First Congress.

Over 220 years of "bogus law"?

Get a grip.

Play law doesn't count.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>It is too bad, our first black man sitting in the White House is a communist and an illegal alien.
Could be worse...like having a Aryan Nation goalie cult leader like Mittens.
By the way, the white man started communism and your barbaric ancestors were the real illegal aliens. The Indians should have never listened to their "forked" up tongue. Too bad they didn't scalp them onery lowdown dirty sumbytches.
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Right on bra!!!!!! LOL
The nra will bite the dust just like the gop.
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Your link is a joke, some guy calls who he says is the hospital of Obummers birthplace, and the only name for the person you have that is from the hospital is someone by the name of who? That's right all they have is "hospital"! Where is the documentation and actual officials of this hospital in a public press release? You still have nothing! That's why you are still here 4 plus years after the usurper stole the highest office in the USA, because you know you can't prove it! Pathetic obot twit!
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Message heard United States Government Lima Charlie. GF008 Safer World 2013.

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Lets take a poll. How do you think is mentally or who is not.
Anders Behring Breivik who killed 77 people in Norway?
Jared Lee Loughner who shot Rep. Giffords and 18 others in Tuscon, AZ?
James Eagan Holmes who killed 12 and injured 58 others in the theater shooting in Aurora, CO?
Adam Lanza who shot up the Sand Hook school and killed 26 people?
I think it is safe to say all where mentally illenough that they should have been in mental hospitals but it was LBJ and Jimmy Cater that passed laws that emptied the mental hospitals. And you Libtads blame Reagan because he closed unused mental hospitals! Go figure.
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ThePatriot wrote:
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LOL! The hospital listed by Obummer on his new alleged official BC, lacking the official Hawaiian state seal, took down a letter posted on their website by Obummer making claims he was born there. They were immediately overwhelmed with request to confirm Obummers claims but would not and pulled the letter off of their website. There has been no public or written confirmation of anyone from the hospital saying he was indeed born in their hospital nor have they said Obummmer has given them permission to do so.
You're still a dummy...your FOX faux facts won't change the outcome of Obama winning back 2 back elections. Give it a rest silly wabbits....its 4 more years and its nothing you azzhats can do about it. Your puny arguments falls to the ground everytime. Who gives a shyt in the overall scheme of things!!!!!!!!!!
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And your other link is so old and so pathetic, that official Obummer letter posted on the hospital website was pulled after they were unable and unwilling to confirm Obummers claims, and to this day have not done so in any public or official capacity!
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If Obummer gave permission for the hospital to confirm his claims they wouldn't give some no name alleged hospital phone call person say so!
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Grand Birther wrote:
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I bet you wish this made sense, huh?
Are you saying you have no sense?

Please feed the troll.

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Please note that this is not NASA-MSFC (the real NASA) but NASA-GISS (Columbia University) which is aligned with the United Nations Global Warming agenda.
Also, please note that they imply ALL scientists agree which is blatantly false. Even at at the peak of Global Warming in the late 1990's less than 50% agreed the Earth was warming and less than 10% ever believed it was man-made.

NASA Finds Long-Term Climate Warming Trend

Jan. 15, 2013: NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record.

NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, which monitors global surface temperatures on an ongoing basis, released an updated analysis Tuesday that compares temperatures around the globe in 2012 to the average global temperature from the mid-20th century. The comparison shows how Earth continues to experience warmer temperatures than several decades ago.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, when do bad guns stop shooting? When good guns show up!!!
And it does not matter if it is a cop or a teacher with a concealed carry permit.
It is fact, over 90% of all murders are done by known criminals or mentally ill people. But instead of locking up the 10% of the people who do 90% of the shootings, the Libtards wants want to remove guns from the 90% who do not! That is call Libtardian logic.
There is no shred of evidence that the President wants to ban guns. You loony azz gun nuts say all kinds of untruthful things. Its the high capacity magazines and assault types thats on the table. Stop talking dumb shyt when all the talking points you got comes from the nra and FOX.
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new hammer time wrote:
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I'm drawing up papers to impeach your damn mouth. STFU
First amendment, STFU

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we petition the obama administration to:
Mandate the AG to seek sanctions, costs, and attorneys' fees to recover taxpayer funds used to defend birther lawsuits.

Hundreds of repetitious and frivolous lawsuits have been filed challenging President Obama's status as a natural born citizen. These lawsuits have clogged up the courts and cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in court costs and attorneys' fees.

We, the taxpayers, respectfully petition for an Executive Order or directive to the Attorney General to seek to recover taxpayer funds expended in defending frivolous Birther lawsuits by requesting sanctions, costs, and attorneys' fees in each and every pending or future case.
Created: Jan 14, 2013

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/man...
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Ellen1 wrote:
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BOTH aliens and citizens are subject to the jurisdiction. EVERYONE in the USA is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA except for foreign diplomats and their families. Aliens are not the same as citizens; they cannot vote for one thing. But both aliens and citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
State your definition of jurisdiction. Why was the phrase, "AND not subject to ANY foreign power" included in the Amendment? And why hasn't America been overtaken since it is so easy to become a citizen? Surely, an enemy would have pounced on that gaping loophole. It would be an open invitation to our enemies. Thankfully, our founders were smart enough to see this and NOT follow England's tradition of 'anyone born on our soil is a citizen'. The founders were preventing takeover from within. That's what it is about whether you want to accept it or not.

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