BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#137196 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>no everything in your Stupidville is assbackwards, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. If they were, they would be called citizens, just as stated in the 14th Citizenship Clause.
Sorry, Justice Dumbarse, please read Art. III and get back to me when you get it right.

YAWN

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#137197 Jan 15, 2013
ThePatriot wrote:
Put up or shut up! Four plus years of this bullshitaki! If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it. They don't need Obummers permission because he has already made public claims! If you obot SHEEPLE twits need to have Obummer give his permission to the hospital before they can do that, then ask your brainwashed obot selves, "Why does Obummer refuse to give his permission to confirm his claims he was born at that hospital if he has already made a public claim to?" If all he has to do is give his permission then sign a petition that will be sent to him to please give that hospital permission to confirm his claims he was born there!
A multi layered, altered, multiple text, BC, lacking the official state seal of Hawaii and appropriate signatures as seen in the Nordyke Twins born around the same time, at the same alleged hospital, does not an "official" BC make!
If Obummer was born at the hospital he publiclly claims he was born at, why does he not give that hospital permission to confirm something he has already made public?
You obot SHEEPLE are the epitome of "brainwashed"!
Four plus years wasting your lives screaming "conspiracy" and "birthers nuts" while you waste all this time arguing something you say has been proven? Hmm, like that makes sense!
Hey, loser, it's DOH that confirms birth facts, and they did.

Sorry to bust your bubble.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#137198 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>stupid, seems to be the only thing I can call you, you can't understand shit.
Not true. I've got you pegged "spot on"
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#137199 Jan 15, 2013
ThePatriot wrote:
Put up or shut up! Four plus years of this bullshitaki! If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it. They don't need Obummers permission because he has already made public claims!...
Four plus years wasting your lives screaming "conspiracy" and "birthers nuts" while you waste all this time arguing something you say has been proven? Hmm, like that makes sense!
Re:“If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it.“

Answer: They HAVE, twice.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

and

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-...

Those two confirmations that Obama was born in Kapiolani are IN ADDITION to Obama’s long form birth certificate saying that he was born in Kapiolani, and both the Republican and Democrat governors of Hawaii saying that he was born in Kapiolani and the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital of a child to a woman named Stanley.

Re:“A multi layered….’

Answer: Layers are normal in PDF

Re:“altered, multiple text, BC….”

Answer: It is not altered. Nor does the fact that multiple fonts were used indicate that the birth certificate is forged. Only birther “experts” have claimed that it is forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, and they CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe the “experts.” And birther sites have not shown you these real experts:

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Re:“lacking the official state seal of Hawaii and appropriate signatures…”

Answer: BOTH the short form birth certificate and the long form birth certificate have the official seal and appropriate signatures. The seal on the short form is shown in great detail on FactCheck’s site. The long form with the seal was shown to the White House press room and one reporter stated that she had felt the seal.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#137200 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>It is too bad, our first black man sitting in the White House is a communist and an illegal alien.
Careful - Rouge will go all apechit. He's half white!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#137201 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>no everything in your Stupidville is assbackwards, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. If they were, they would be called citizens, just as stated in the 14th Citizenship Clause.
BOTH aliens and citizens are subject to the jurisdiction. EVERYONE in the USA is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA except for foreign diplomats and their families. Aliens are not the same as citizens; they cannot vote for one thing. But both aliens and citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
ThePatriot

Clearlake, CA

#137202 Jan 15, 2013
Please give a source of the hospital listed on Obummers "BC" where they confirm Obummers claims that he was born there! Oh wait they need Obummers permission to do that according to the brain dead, brainwashed, obot, SHEEPLE, minions! But if Obummer is telling the truth and he has already claimed that hospital to be his actual birthplace why would he deny permission for that hospital to confirm it? hmm, boy you SHEEPLE,are really gulable

OK, blather on and obfuscate!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#137203 Jan 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
As Obama should remember when he based the USSC at a State of the Union address.
Do you think corporations are people Rogue? Obama didn't and simply let them know. That their “opinion” results in (in many cases) subjective decisions does not make Obama’s opinion any less pertinent.
ThePatriot

Clearlake, CA

#137204 Jan 15, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Careful - Rouge will go all apechit. He's half white!
Half Kenyan

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#137205 Jan 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Bill Clinton committed at least FIVE felonies associated with the Paula Jones civil lawsuit.
The judge, Susan Webber Wright. waited until after the impeachment trial to hold Bill Clinton in contempt? WHY???
For Judge Wright to delay even announcing the contempt charge against Clinton implies that SHE wanted to cover the issue up until after the impeachment trial so it could not be used as an issue in the impeachment which is also called ..... obstruction of justice..
As far as I am concerned, Judge Write also should have been impeached just for that one issue.
Still obsessed with Bill's thing?
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#137206 Jan 15, 2013
ThePatriot wrote:
<quoted text>
The tea party has nothing to do with the US government, you Obummer obot twit! They do not run the US, and according to all you SHEEPLE,they are on the outs, just a few nut jobs! So it takes a just a few nuts jobs to finally get the Sandy victims some help, but the government cant get them some help right away? LOL! Says volumes about the Obummernation!
Oh, you forgot to blame Bush and racism as well!
The t'partiers in Congress show nuf try to run things...but every time they say and do something it becomes a crisis. The House is stacked with wing-nuts hell bent on destroying Obamas legacies.
The President can't spend what Congress hasn't authorized. Just watch some real news for a change instead of that FOX shyt.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#137207 Jan 15, 2013
ThePatriot wrote:
Put up or shut up! Four plus years of this bullshitaki! If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it....
You obot SHEEPLE are the epitome of "brainwashed"!
Four plus years wasting your lives screaming "conspiracy" and "birthers nuts" while you waste all this time arguing something you say has been proven? Hmm, like that makes sense!
Re:“Put up or shut up! Four plus years of this bullshitaki! If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it.“

Answer: They HAVE, twice.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

and

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-...

Those two confirmations that Obama was born in Kapiolani are IN ADDITION to Obama’s long form birth certificate saying that he was born in Kapiolani, and both the Republican and Democrat governors of Hawaii saying that he was born in Kapiolani and the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital of a child to a woman named Stanley.

Re:“A multi layered….’

Answer: Layers are normal in PDF

Re:“altered, multiple text, BC….”

Answer: It is not altered. Nor does the fact that multiple fonts were used indicate that the birth certificate is forged. Only birther “experts” have claimed that it is forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, and they CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe the “experts.” And birther sites have not shown you these real experts:

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Re:“lacking the official state seal of Hawaii and appropriate signatures…”

Answer: BOTH the short form birth certificate and the long form birth certificate have the official seal and appropriate signatures. The seal on the short form is shown in great detail on FactCheck’s site. The long form with the seal was shown to the White House press room and one reporter stated that she had felt the seal.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#137208 Jan 15, 2013
Continuing with the response to ThePatriot:

Re:‘If Obummer was born at the hospital he publiclly claims he was born at, why does he not give that hospital permission to confirm something he has already made public?”

Answer:(1) as already shown, the hospital already has repeatedly confirmed that Obama was born there. Birthers simply have not reported those facts; (2) even if the hospital did not confirm, the birth certificate itself, and the confirmation by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor) and the Index Data, and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send those notices) and the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley, and the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from the nearest foreign country, and the fact that Obama’s Kenyan relatives NEVER said that he was born there but instead said that he was born in Hawaii in two separate interviews---would be more than enough proof.

Re: You obot SHEEPLE are the epitome of "brainwashed"!

Answer: I never call names, but you have ignored a great deal of factual evidence, and that is a sign of being irrational.
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#137209 Jan 15, 2013
ThePatriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you only read and not get information from all sorts of sources? You must live in the Obummer SHEEPLE bubble of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil! What's wrong poopoo, was that clip a little to long for your attention span? Did you actually listen to it? Bet not! Blather on SHEEPLE twit! Ignore the obvious! CP has learned well from Obummer claim to be one thing but you're actually another, and rip up the people you say you stand for! What an untrustworthy human being CP is! The GOP should throw him out! Like Obummer he is nothing more than a wolf in sheep clothing infiltrating the very people he is against while claiming to be one of them!
We consider all sources before commenting...unlike yourself. You depend on FOx and the Aryan Nation Gazette.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#137210 Jan 15, 2013
new hammer time wrote:
<quoted text>
GOP(guns over people). Brought to you by the nra.
Right on bra!!!!!! LOL
ThePatriot

Clearlake, CA

#137211 Jan 15, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re:“If Obummer was born at the hospital he says he was born at, that hospital would confirm it.“
Answer: They HAVE, twice.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
and
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-...
Those two confirmations that Obama was born in Kapiolani are IN ADDITION to Obama’s long form birth certificate saying that he was born in Kapiolani, and both the Republican and Democrat governors of Hawaii saying that he was born in Kapiolani and the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital of a child to a woman named Stanley.
Re:“A multi layered….’
Answer: Layers are normal in PDF
Re:“altered, multiple text, BC….”
Answer: It is not altered. Nor does the fact that multiple fonts were used indicate that the birth certificate is forged. Only birther “experts” have claimed that it is forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, and they CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe the “experts.” And birther sites have not shown you these real experts:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Re:“lacking the official state seal of Hawaii and appropriate signatures…”
Answer: BOTH the short form birth certificate and the long form birth certificate have the official seal and appropriate signatures. The seal on the short form is shown in great detail on FactCheck’s site. The long form with the seal was shown to the White House press room and one reporter stated that she had felt the seal.
LOL! The hospital listed by Obummer on his new alleged official BC, lacking the official Hawaiian state seal, took down a letter posted on their website by Obummer making claims he was born there. They were immediately overwhelmed with request to confirm Obummers claims but would not and pulled the letter off of their website. There has been no public or written confirmation of anyone from the hospital saying he was indeed born in their hospital nor have they said Obummmer has given them permission to do so.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#137212 Jan 15, 2013
new hammer time wrote:
<quoted text>
GOP(guns over people). Brought to you by the nra.
Ah, when do bad guns stop shooting? When good guns show up!!!
And it does not matter if it is a cop or a teacher with a concealed carry permit.
It is fact, over 90% of all murders are done by known criminals or mentally ill people. But instead of locking up the 10% of the people who do 90% of the shootings, the Libtards wants want to remove guns from the 90% who do not! That is call Libtardian logic.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#137213 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>no everything in your Stupidville is assbackwards, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. If they were, they would be called citizens, just as stated in the 14th Citizenship Clause.
Not only are aliens subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, they must be subject to the jurisdiction of the US prior to becoming citizens. That's been the LAW since the days of the First Congress.

Over 220 years of "bogus law"?

Get a grip.

Play law doesn't count.
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#137214 Jan 15, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>It is too bad, our first black man sitting in the White House is a communist and an illegal alien.
Could be worse...like having a Aryan Nation goalie cult leader like Mittens.
By the way, the white man started communism and your barbaric ancestors were the real illegal aliens. The Indians should have never listened to their "forked" up tongue. Too bad they didn't scalp them onery lowdown dirty sumbytches.
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#137215 Jan 15, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on bra!!!!!! LOL
The nra will bite the dust just like the gop.

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