BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

[Rogue Scholar 05]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I am taking my daughter and 14 y/o grandson to the shooting range this morning. I'll pretend I am shooting Occutards!
My daughter gets a S&W 380 auto in her car and a Taurus 8-shot 22WM revolver at home. That is if you get past her 90 pound black lab!
Myself, I have a Taurus and a Ruger revolvers in 38Spl and a Colt 357Mag and I have a Taurus Circuit Judge at home. All my Chihuahuas will do is let me know you are there and I will let te Circuit Judge do the talking.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm ...
Oh, in Vietnam I ended the day for about 30-50 gooks!

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

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Sick gun culture.
And you called them gooks, now did you? And what did this disrespect for your foe earn you?

I did not kill them with little bullets. First i called in 155 mm arty, and then a Cobra strike and then four A-1's napalmed the area. The good new is we did not loose one American that day!

[Rogue Scholar 05]

Grand Birther wrote:

"As I went to draw I saw someone in the line of fire and did not."
Birfoons hear; "The Armed Second Amendment SUPER CITIZEN valiently drew his weapon (read phallus) and did NOTHING."
His gun didn't even leave its holster. Birfoon cowboy fantasy over, yet again.

And just where did you get your quote? That is not what he said in his interview. He said he pointed his gun at the shooter but did not shoots as there was people running behind the shooter and he was afraid he might hit one. But the shooter saw him and his gun, so he dropped his AR-15 and fled.
Still can't accept reality. Sad, very sad. Oh, I have drawn down on two people, I did not shoot, but I got my point across. That is why I like stainless steel guns, the bad guys see them real quick and decide to go elsewhere.

[American Lady]

Did you know that the NFL is a tax-exempt nonprofit?
by Jay

Once in a while, I run across something that I did not know and it leaves me flabbergasted.

For example, I did not know that the National Football League, the colossus of professional sports, is classified as a non-profit — a tax-free non-profit, to be more specific. That’s right: The NFL has its own exemption, written into federal law, that makes it exempt from federal corporate taxes.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10...

[LRS]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

LRS wrote:
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Mere drivel from a 'tard. Another great example though!!!
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Interesting. Even you have found that you are not worthy of your own time. Ha ha. You definitely do NOT measure up, not even at the birther level, and THAT says it all.
As I've often said, you wouldn't even qualify as fertilizer.

When are you going to understand no one with a lick of sense would want to measure up to any standard of yours? You're just an old, angry, bitter and self-loving scumbag. Absolutely nothing to measure up to! Nada! Not to mention your measuring stick only goes as high as a tickturd. LMAO!!!

[American Lady]

None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free ...

jump on this jock itch ...

[Learn to Read]

American Lady wrote:

Did you know that the NFL is a tax-exempt nonprofit?
by Jay

Once in a while, I run across something that I did not know and it leaves me flabbergasted.

For example, I did not know that the National Football League, the colossus of professional sports, is classified as a non-profit — a tax-free non-profit, to be more specific. That’s right: The NFL has its own exemption, written into federal law, that makes it exempt from federal corporate taxes.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10...

Good God woman - you believe every Internet fable you see!

[Jacques Ottawa]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I am taking my daughter and 14 y/o grandson to the shooting range this morning. I'll pretend I am shooting Occutards!
My daughter gets a S&W 380 auto in her car and a Taurus 8-shot 22WM revolver at home. That is if you get past her 90 pound black lab!
Myself, I have a Taurus and a Ruger revolvers in 38Spl and a Colt 357Mag and I have a Taurus Circuit Judge at home. All my Chihuahuas will do is let me know you are there and I will let te Circuit Judge do the talking.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm ...
Oh, in Vietnam I ended the day for about 30-50 gooks!
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I did not kill them with little bullets. First i called in 155 mm arty, and then a Cobra strike and then four A-1's napalmed the area. The good new is we did not loose one American that day!

Typical gung-ho birther reply. Did that action play in part in your winning the war by any chance?

[Jacques Ottawa]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

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And just where did you get your quote? That is not what he said in his interview. He said he pointed his gun at the shooter but did not shoots as there was people running behind the shooter and he was afraid he might hit one. But the shooter saw him and his gun, so he dropped his AR-15 and fled.
Still can't accept reality. Sad, very sad. Oh, I have drawn down on two people, I did not shoot, but I got my point across. That is why I like stainless steel guns, the bad guys see them real quick and decide to go elsewhere.

You talk about Guns the way Moses talked about Yahveh on Sinai. I'll bet you never talked to your wife or your present girl friend in such amourous terms as you do about Guns.

[Jacques Ottawa]

American Lady wrote:

Did you know that the NFL is a tax-exempt nonprofit?
by Jay
Once in a while, I run across something that I did not know and it leaves me flabbergasted.
For example, I did not know that the National Football League, the colossus of professional sports, is classified as a non-profit — a tax-free non-profit, to be more specific. That’s right: The NFL has its own exemption, written into federal law, that makes it exempt from federal corporate taxes.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10...

Have you bothered finding out when that came about and who was in charge of both houses and the presidency? I haven't and won't (don't feel like it) but I'll betcha...

[American Lady]

Sen. Coburn’s “Wastebook” Eyes NFL’s Nonprofit Status

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocia...

Sen. Coburn’s “Wastebook”
http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm...

[Jacques Ottawa]

American Lady wrote:

None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free ...
jump on this jock itch ...

Why do I then feel freer than you and much less enslaved? You are enslaved to birther fantasies, to Pravda, to the NRA and the John Birch society. I am enslaved to no one except art, travel, allkinds of good music from rock to country to classical to opera, interesting people and good food. The kind of slavery I can live with. What's your pleasure?

[American Lady]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

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Why do I then feel freer than you and much less enslaved? You are enslaved to birther fantasies, to Pravda, to the NRA and the John Birch society. I am enslaved to no one except art, travel, allkinds of good music from rock to country to classical to opera, interesting people and good food. The kind of slavery I can live with. What's your pleasure?

Free to enter a Bar & Smoke ...
While enjoying my Margarita ...
and people watching ...

[Poppo]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

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Hmmm, suspicious though don't you think, Poppo? The Judge's name is "England". Now , if that ain't enough for an investigation into this judge's background, then I don't know what is.

You have to be totally stupid if you don’t believe a young teen aged girl hatched a conspiracy some 50 odd years ago so that her mixed race child could one day become president. And to make sure he had every chance in the world she would name him Barack Hussein Obama II. Why even a 4 year old child can see that.

Of course the birfoon found out very quickly on the evening of Nov, 6th last that the majority of the electorate are not 4 year old children nor did they care much for Mitt Romney or his Republican Guard (Protectors of the rich) who’ve apparently seemed to have lost their way and actually believe that 47 percent of “American Citizens” are freeloaders and not deserving of anything save their contempt.

Obviously a great campaign strategy for a loser, but he was right about the 47 percent. That is the 47 percent who fell for his bullshit.

[Poppo]

Frank wrote:

<quoted text>Barack Obama's father was never a citizen of The United States,not even for one day. Barack Obama was born the son of a Kenyan British subject,our laws do not allow us to take away his Kenyan citizenship. If he gave up his citizenship to live in Indonesia,then that is between him and Indonesia. Our laws also do not allow us to take away Indonesian citizenship from any one that claims it. If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship. If Obama traveled using a Kenyan passport,then he claimed Kenyan citizenship.

Frankie never went to law school not even for one day yet think he knows more than every legal scholar in the country. The world even!

[Poppo]

Frankie Logic.

Frank wrote:

<quoted text> If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship. If Obama traveled using a Kenyan passport,then he claimed Kenyan citizenship.

And if he traveled under an American passport?_________

[Brad]

Poppo wrote:

Frankie Logic.
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And if he traveled under an American passport?_________

He would have offered up that information.

[American Lady]

Poppo wrote:

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You have to be totally stupid if you don’t believe a young teen aged girl hatched a conspiracy some 50 odd years ago so that her mixed race child could one day become president. And to make sure he had every chance in the world she would name him Barack Hussein Obama II. Why even a 4 year old child can see that.
Of course the birfoon found out very quickly on the evening of Nov, 6th last that the majority of the electorate are not 4 year old children nor did they care much for Mitt Romney or his Republican Guard (Protectors of the rich) who’ve apparently seemed to have lost their way and actually believe that 47 percent of “American Citizens” are freeloaders and not deserving of anything save their contempt.
Obviously a great campaign strategy for a loser, but he was right about the 47 percent. That is the 47 percent who fell for his bullshit.

Most of his mothers relatives are dead, aren't they ???
With "no one" but the mooslim side to BACK anything up !!!

http://www.obamaspast.com/

[Atticus Tiberius Finch]

Frank wrote:

<quoted text>Barack Obama's father was never a citizen of The United States,not even for one day. Barack Obama was born the son of a Kenyan British subject,our laws do not allow us to take away his Kenyan citizenship. If he gave up his citizenship to live in Indonesia,then that is between him and Indonesia. Our laws also do not allow us to take away Indonesian citizenship from any one that claims it. If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship. If Obama traveled using a Kenyan passport,then he claimed Kenyan citizenship.

Still beating the same old dead horse again.

Let's go through each statement.
1. " Barack Obama was born the son of a Kenyan British subject,our laws do not allow us to take away his Kenyan citizenship."
Answer: Kenyan laws took away his Kenyan citizenship automatically when he became 21 years old.

Kenya Constitution, Chapter VI, Section 97 states:

A person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and ALSO A CITIZEN OF SOME COUNTRY OTHER THAN KENYA SHALL, subject to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and, in the case of a person who was born outside Kenya. made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.

2." If he gave up his citizenship to live in Indonesia,then that is between him and Indonesia."

Answer: An United States citizen either adult or a CHILD doesn't give his or her citizen by merely living in another country.

The applicable statute governing a United States citizen intent to renounce his or her citizenship is 8 U.S.C. 1481 which provides in relevant part:

Section 1481 -Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-"

The operative phrase in this section is "VOLUNTARILY performing any of the following acts with the INTENTION of relinquishing United States nationality"

The fact that Obama WHO WAS SIX YEARS OLD AT THE TIME was registered by his step father under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian is of no legal relevance and does not constitute a minor's explicitly renouncement of his US citizenship. Supreme court cases have held a citizen must have the requisite intent to renounce his United States citizenship. I am afraid that in this case Obama a SIX YEAR OLD CHILD, being a minor, lacks the legal capacity to show intent to renounce his citizenship. See Vance v. Terrazas, 444 U.S. 252 (1980)(requirement of preponderance of the evidence that person intent to renounce his citizenship), Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967)(loss of citizenship required the individual's assent).

And it is equally well established in our law that the plaintiff, while an infant could not divest himself of such citizenship, whether by his own acts, or the acts of his parentsPodea v. Marshall, 83 F. Supp. 216,219 (ED NY 1949).(internal citations omitted)

3. "If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship."

Answer: After five years of "investigation" there is not iota of "proof" that Obama had any passport other than the United States

[Grand Birther]

If Jesus had a gun he'd have lived.

[Poppo]

Brad wrote:

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He would have offered up that information.

Oh I’m sure that’s the case in birfistan Brad, but when I got my passport only the state dept required my vitals; everyone else just gets to see the US passport and Obama's is readily available.

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