BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#136390 Jan 10, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote : "Before I go. I don't give a damn about Mobarf's feelings one iota"
I never thought you gave a damn or not about wojar's feelngs. Neither does he, I'm sure, because if you did, he'd be worried, he'd watch his back. I just reckoned that you, being the puny intellect that you are, would get back at someone who bests you daily by insulting a whole country, Poland. And to top it off, the guy's as American as the legendary apple pie. Incredible. You've often done the same to me, impinging my whole country every time you're also bested, which is ALL the time. Puerile and not too bright, but a sure birther trait.
Screw you jacqfish. You're on here constantly bashing Americans so you can expect the same treatment from me. Okie dokie?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#136391 Jan 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, Justus von Big Liar, we are not servants of our Country. The government serves We the People. A concept you will never understand. We do not need permission to move about our country or even to leave it where as many countries to need a exit visa to leave.
But I do agree with you that unless you have diplomatic immunity, you are subject to our laws regardless if you are here legally or not.
Grow up Rouge.

jurisdiction, n.(14c) 1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory;
3. A geographic area within which political or judicial authority may be exercised.

It has nothing to do with "servants", Bozo.

And from Vattel:

84. Jurisdiction.
The sovereignty united to the domain establishes the jurisdiction of the nation in her territories, or the country that belongs to her. It is her province, or that of her sovereign, to exercise justice in all the places under her jurisdiction, to take cognisance of the crimes committed, and the differences that arise in the country.

The notion that ordinary aliens in a country are not under the jurisdiction of that country (subject to the jurisdiction thereof) exists only in delusional play law screeds from a few demented birfoons. It's never been law anywhere, ever.
Justus von Liebig wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense. As a sovereign nation the US exercises dominion over persons within its borders. Jurisdiction of a nation is understood to include authority over aliens within national borders. This has been so since before US independence. Check out Vattwl's definition of jurisdiction. See also Black's Law Dictionary; then read the Nationalization Act of 1790 where it refers to aliens under the jurisdiction of the US.
Play law doesn't count, Sonny.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#136392 Jan 10, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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What is needed is more guns. And that darn 48-hr cooling period, much too long--- "Hey, I need to kill him (her) tomorrow, not the day after, moron. Who makes these stupid regulatins anyhow?" Thanks to Rep Ryan, that famous, ha ha, failed vp candidate, the waiting period would've been shortened to 24 hrs, and only reluctantly as he never saw a good reason why there should be any wait at all.
Bashing an American politician.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#136393 Jan 10, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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So, Rogue, you'd lock up every disturbed man and woman. Bravo. Oh, btw, in 2012, they had to release 30,000 prisoners in California because they ran out of room. I suspect it's pretty much the same in every state. Well, well, now all disturbed patients will be jailed if you have your way. Not only is it not practical, there is no room at the INN. Furthermore, how fair is that , jailing a disturbed person with hardcore inmatrres who needs psychiatric treatment? I just thank my lucky stars, Rogue, that you are in charge of nothing.
Bashing Rogue.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#136394 Jan 10, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Frank, that's not what the agent said. She said it was her mistake.
Frank, insofar as Ark is concerned, you have shown you are totally incompetent. Nowhere in Ark did the court rule that either or both parents must be permanently domiciled in the United States. "[W]hose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States" refers to the specific facts of Ark's circumstances. However, the Court ruled that Ark's citizenship was due to his being born in the United States regardless of the circumstances of his parents. Indeed, the court cited several cases to emphasize the point. Nowhere did the Court suggest or hint that domicile of one or both parents was REQUIRED. The question of record was limited to Ark's particular circumstances. However, the Court's rationale which sets binding precedent went much further. You have no business reading case law Frank; it's way over your head.
Capisce?
<quoted text>
Mobarf bashing Frank.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#136395 Jan 10, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Grow up Rouge.
jurisdiction, n.(14c) 1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory;
3. A geographic area within which political or judicial authority may be exercised.
It has nothing to do with "servants", Bozo.
And from Vattel:
84. Jurisdiction.
The sovereignty united to the domain establishes the jurisdiction of the nation in her territories, or the country that belongs to her. It is her province, or that of her sovereign, to exercise justice in all the places under her jurisdiction, to take cognisance of the crimes committed, and the differences that arise in the country.
The notion that ordinary aliens in a country are not under the jurisdiction of that country (subject to the jurisdiction thereof) exists only in delusional play law screeds from a few demented birfoons. It's never been law anywhere, ever.
<quoted text>
More Mobarf bashing Rogue.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#136397 Jan 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Beenz wrote:
Let me get this right. You think we are bigots because we challenge someone's credential?
Nope.

Rather it's because no amount of proof is enough, among other things too numerous to mention.
Learn to Read wrote:
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A new bigot blathers
Just what the world needs
American Lady

Danville, KY

#136398 Jan 10, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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http://www.770kob.com/abc_news/article/Slain_... 't_Try_to_Defend_Himself,_Brot her_Says/21C274865A9811E2B03FF EFDADE6840A/
RS, paste it and take out spaces ... if this don't work
http://www.770kob.com/abc_news/article/Slain_ ...'t_Try_to_Defend_Himself,_B rother_Says/21C274865A9811E2B0 3FFEFDADE6840A/

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#136399 Jan 10, 2013
BREAKING NEWS! Supreme Court to hear Obama eligibility case! Feb 15th!
&fe ature=player_embedded

Nobama supporter "Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids......"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#136400 Jan 10, 2013
Here it is again RS - a different link ...

The brother of a popular YouTube[9th most popular] firearms and explosives expert, who was murdered at a gun making business, finds it surprising that he did not pull out a weapon to defend himself.
...
"For him not to pull out that gun and try to defend himself, he had to feel comfortable around somebody. Either that or he was ambushed," his brother, Kelly Ratliff, told ABC News affiliate WSB-TV.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/slain-youtube-weapon...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136401 Jan 10, 2013
LRS wrote:
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The article "had" said it was a polish artist. My bad. I suppose I should have waited until confirmation. As far as the rest, Mobarf has earned everything he gets here. I keep telling you guys that being an azz just doesn't pay off. See what I mean now? LOL
Fool. "Pollack" (LRS tm reg'd) insults all of Poland, not wojar who is an AMERICAN citizen. You have this childish and ignorant habit of demeaning a whole country and its citizens just because you don't like one of them. Birther.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136402 Jan 10, 2013
LRS wrote:
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Screw you jacqfish. You're on here constantly bashing Americans so you can expect the same treatment from me. Okie dokie?
Please tell me about my bashing Americans, except when I reply to profanity aimed at me. And I never ever use profanity, unlike you who just can't help it. As to American personalities, I may just tell the facts as they are, I don't embellish. If you don't like it, too bad. But your nation, the USA, show me where I've criticized the essence of that country. Which I incidentally like. It's chockfull of good and bad stuff, just like any other country. Makes it interesting.

Buyt what kills you is not my supposed criticism of the US, no, it's because I like democrats, Carter, Clinton, Obama. Specially Obama. Oh boy, does that rankle you. GWB I never liked all that much though as i've told you before, we had better relations with you guys when he was president than with Obama. I still didn't like him, but never called him names the way you and your birther brethren do. I'd never even come close to calling my PM whom I don't like to the names you've called Obama.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136403 Jan 10, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Bashing an American politician.
No sir. Not bashing. Just telling it how it is, the truth. He advocated all that. I also said he failed election-wise. Just the facts, ma'am, just the fcts, no bashing.

Germany lost WW11. Is that bashing Germany?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136404 Jan 10, 2013
LRS wrote:
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Bashing Rogue.
There's something wrong with you. And even that's not bashing, it's the nicest thing anyone's said to you in a long time.
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#136405 Jan 10, 2013
American Lady wrote:
BRENNAN MUST ANSWER FOR PASSPORT BREACH
Exclusive: Jack Cashill ties in Obama's apparent 1981 trip to Pakistan
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/brennan-must-answe...
PRO-JIHADIST JOHN BRENNAN TO HEAD CIA?
Exclusive: Pamela Geller says 'Jew-hater' Chuck Hagel is disaster for Defense post
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/pro-jihadist-john-...
Hagel is alright, he told AIPAC that his loyalty is to the U.S.A. first! Nothing wrong with that.
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#136406 Jan 10, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Supreme Court to hear Obama eligibility case! Feb 15th!
(((Yawn))) It's just a big waste of time and resources, it won't go anywhere or settle anything. It's all for show.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#136407 Jan 10, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Supreme Court to hear Obama eligibility case!
Breaking news - FoolUp gets it wrong again

Sorry loser - no hearing.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#136408 Jan 10, 2013
Vote Obama wrote:
<quoted text>Hagel is alright, he told AIPAC that his loyalty is to the U.S.A. first! Nothing wrong with that.
Don't WANT Hagel either!
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136409 Jan 10, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Supreme Court to hear Obama eligibility case! Feb 15th!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5nKM27IcbGsXX&feature=pla yer_embedded
Nobama supporter "Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids......"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php...
Fed Up bashing supreme court and Obama
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#136410 Jan 10, 2013
American Lady wrote:
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Don't WANT Hagel either!
American non-American er hmm Lady bashes Hagel.

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