BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Brad

Manchester, CT

#135736 Jan 6, 2013
Poppo wrote:
Frankie Logic.
<quoted text>
And if he traveled under an American passport?_________
He would have offered up that information.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#135737 Jan 6, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to be totally stupid if you don’t believe a young teen aged girl hatched a conspiracy some 50 odd years ago so that her mixed race child could one day become president. And to make sure he had every chance in the world she would name him Barack Hussein Obama II. Why even a 4 year old child can see that.
Of course the birfoon found out very quickly on the evening of Nov, 6th last that the majority of the electorate are not 4 year old children nor did they care much for Mitt Romney or his Republican Guard (Protectors of the rich) who’ve apparently seemed to have lost their way and actually believe that 47 percent of “American Citizens” are freeloaders and not deserving of anything save their contempt.
Obviously a great campaign strategy for a loser, but he was right about the 47 percent. That is the 47 percent who fell for his bullshit.
Most of his mothers relatives are dead, aren't they ???
With "no one" but the mooslim side to BACK anything up !!!

http://www.obamaspast.com/

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#135738 Jan 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Barack Obama's father was never a citizen of The United States,not even for one day. Barack Obama was born the son of a Kenyan British subject,our laws do not allow us to take away his Kenyan citizenship. If he gave up his citizenship to live in Indonesia,then that is between him and Indonesia. Our laws also do not allow us to take away Indonesian citizenship from any one that claims it. If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship. If Obama traveled using a Kenyan passport,then he claimed Kenyan citizenship.
Still beating the same old dead horse again.

Let's go through each statement.
1. " Barack Obama was born the son of a Kenyan British subject,our laws do not allow us to take away his Kenyan citizenship."
Answer: Kenyan laws took away his Kenyan citizenship automatically when he became 21 years old.

Kenya Constitution, Chapter VI, Section 97 states:

A person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and ALSO A CITIZEN OF SOME COUNTRY OTHER THAN KENYA SHALL, subject to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and, in the case of a person who was born outside Kenya. made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.

2." If he gave up his citizenship to live in Indonesia,then that is between him and Indonesia."

Answer: An United States citizen either adult or a CHILD doesn't give his or her citizen by merely living in another country.

The applicable statute governing a United States citizen intent to renounce his or her citizenship is 8 U.S.C. 1481 which provides in relevant part:

Section 1481 -Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-"

The operative phrase in this section is "VOLUNTARILY performing any of the following acts with the INTENTION of relinquishing United States nationality"

The fact that Obama WHO WAS SIX YEARS OLD AT THE TIME was registered by his step father under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian is of no legal relevance and does not constitute a minor's explicitly renouncement of his US citizenship. Supreme court cases have held a citizen must have the requisite intent to renounce his United States citizenship. I am afraid that in this case Obama a SIX YEAR OLD CHILD, being a minor, lacks the legal capacity to show intent to renounce his citizenship. See Vance v. Terrazas, 444 U.S. 252 (1980)(requirement of preponderance of the evidence that person intent to renounce his citizenship), Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967)(loss of citizenship required the individual's assent).

And it is equally well established in our law that the plaintiff, while an infant could not divest himself of such citizenship, whether by his own acts, or the acts of his parentsPodea v. Marshall, 83 F. Supp. 216,219 (ED NY 1949).(internal citations omitted)

3. "If Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport,then he claimed Indonesian citizenship."

Answer: After five years of "investigation" there is not iota of "proof" that Obama had any passport other than the United States
Grand Birther

United States

#135739 Jan 6, 2013
If Jesus had a gun he'd have lived.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135749 Jan 6, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
He would have offered up that information.
Oh I’m sure that’s the case in birfistan Brad, but when I got my passport only the state dept required my vitals; everyone else just gets to see the US passport and Obama's is readily available.

Help yourself to the link http://images.politico.com/global//blogs/POTU...
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#135753 Jan 6, 2013

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135754 Jan 6, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of his mothers relatives are dead, aren't they ???
With "no one" but the mooslim side to BACK anything up !!!
http://www.obamaspast.com/
Exactly why we maintain vital records AL. So that folks can’t just make stuff up after everyone is dead and gone and attempt to submit some wacky belief, baseless theories or nutty conspiracy to the world as the truth and expect it to trump facts.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135755 Jan 6, 2013
LRS wrote:
Is that how Fox gets you to vote Republican Mr. Liars? I’m sure you have a vivid picture of old granny swiping her food stamp card at strip clubs and downloading X-rated video. Can’t wait to strip her of that card can you Mr. Liars?

American Lady

Danville, KY

#135756 Jan 6, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly why we maintain vital records AL. So that folks can’t just make stuff up after everyone is dead and gone and attempt to submit some wacky belief, baseless theories or nutty conspiracy to the world as the truth and expect it to trump facts.
Show me "his" history !!!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#135757 Jan 6, 2013
Founding Fathers & Slavery
David Barton - 07/2011
Even though the issue of slavery is often raised as a discrediting charge against the Founding Fathers, the historical fact is that slavery was not the product of, nor was it an evil introduced by, the Founding Fathers; slavery had been introduced to America nearly two centuries before the Founders. As President of Congress Henry Laurens explained:

I abhor slavery. I was born in a country where slavery had been established by British Kings and Parliaments as well as by the laws of the country ages before my existence.... In former days there was no combating the prejudices of men supported by interest; the day, I hope, is approaching when, from principles of gratitude as well as justice, every man will strive to be foremost in showing his readiness to comply with the Golden Rule ["do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12]. 1
Prior to the time of the Founding Fathers, there had been few serious efforts to dismantle the institution of slavery. John Jay identified the point at which the change in attitude toward slavery began:

Prior to the great Revolution, the great majority ... of our people had been so long accustomed to the practice and convenience of having slaves that very few among them even doubted the propriety and rectitude of it. 2

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles...

1856

As our Republican fathers, when they
had abolished slavery in all our national
territory, ordained that no person shall
be deprived of life, liberty, or property
† This was the first Republican platform, and
it contained only nine planks; however, six of
the nine set forth bold declarations of equality
and civil rights for African-Americans, based
on the principles enshrined in the Declaration
of Independence. This emphasis on racial justice was the primary reason that the Republican Party was formed.
In May 1854, the Democratic-controlled Congress passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act, extending slavery into federal territories where it had
previously been forbidden, thus increasing the national area in which slavery would be permitted.
This law led to what was called “bleeding Kansas,” where pro-slavery forces came pouring into
the territory and fought violent battles against
the anti-slavery inhabitants of that territory. Following the passage of this pro-slavery law, a number of the anti-slavery Democrats in Congress –
along with anti-slavery members from other political parties, including the Whigs, Free-Soilers,

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/misc/Ci...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#135758 Jan 6, 2013
www.washingtontimes.com

Obama supporters shocked, angry at new tax increases

“What happened that my Social Security withholding’s in my paycheck just went up?” a poster wrote on the liberal site

DemocraticUnderground.com .“My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don’t feel comfortable with. I guarantee this decrease is gonna’ hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?”
Shocker. Democrats who supported the president’s re-election just had NO idea that his steadfast pledge to raise taxes meant that he was really going to raise taxes. They thought he planned to just hit those filthy “1 percenters,” you know, the ones who earned fortunes through their inventiveness and hard work. They thought the free ride would continue forever.

So this week, as taxes went up for millions of Americans — which Republicans predicted throughout the campaign would happen — it was fun to watch the agoggery of the left.
“I know to expect between $93 and $94 less in my paycheck on the 15th,” wrote the ironically named “RomneyLies.”

“My boyfriend has had a lot of expenses and is feeling squeezed right now, and having his paycheck shrink really didn’t help,” wrote “DemocratToTheEnd.”

“BlueIndyBlue” added:“Many of my friends didn’t realize it, either. Our payroll department didn’t do a good job of explaining the coming changes.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/...
milz

Columbia, SC

#135760 Jan 6, 2013
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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#135761 Jan 6, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that how Fox gets you to vote Republican Mr. Liars? I’m sure you have a vivid picture of old granny swiping her food stamp card at strip clubs and downloading X-rated video. Can’t wait to strip her of that card can you Mr. Liars?
You must not think this type of thing goes on. I'm not surprised.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#135764 Jan 6, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
If Jesus had a gun he'd have lived.
Yes, and at Getsemani, Judas would have kissed him, as he did, and Jesus would not have responded "Judas, why did you kiss me?", he would've shot him dead.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#135765 Jan 6, 2013
LRS wrote:
FoxNews.com and NYPost.com . Wow, talk about reliable sources. Birther birfoon all the way.

Oh, and I suppose this is Obama's fault as welfare's not been around very long. Also, all cheaters are Dems, as are all bar and liquor store owners who know abusers are cheating are dems.

You're one of them, so why are you snitching on your ilk?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#135766 Jan 6, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
FoxNews.com and NYPost.com . Wow, talk about reliable sources. Birther birfoon all the way.
Oh, and I suppose this is Obama's fault as welfare's not been around very long. Also, all cheaters are Dems, as are all bar and liquor store owners who know abusers are cheating are dems.
You're one of them, so why are you snitching on your ilk?
jacqie, did you happen to see the world as it flew by you? Why should my tax dollars go for lap dances, liquor, gambling, etc.? It shouldn't. Except for the truly needy, this program should be eliminated. But that brings up that ugly four letter word, doesn't it? WORK
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#135767 Jan 6, 2013
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
FoxNews.com and NYPost.com . Wow, talk about reliable sources. Birther birfoon all the way.
Oh, and I suppose this is Obama's fault as welfare's not been around very long. Also, all cheaters are Dems, as are all bar and liquor store owners who know abusers are cheating are dems.
You're one of them, so why are you snitching on your ilk?
I'm a Dem? HaHaHaHa! Not on your life.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135768 Jan 6, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me "his" history !!!
No problem!

http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/peop...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96756764/Barack-Oba...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135769 Jan 6, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You must not think this type of thing goes on. I'm not surprised.
You must be consistent in you logic Mr. Liars. If a gun is not the culprit in and of itself then neither are food stamps.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#135770 Jan 6, 2013
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
jacqie, did you happen to see the world as it flew by you? Why should my tax dollars go for lap dances, liquor, gambling, etc.? It shouldn't. Except for the truly needy, this program should be eliminated. But that brings up that ugly four letter word, doesn't it? WORK
I believe you have it backwards Mr. Liars. You seem to be speaking of the corporate recipients whom you have yet to complain about misusing your tax dollars.

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