Perhaps I am not versed in your birth certificate lingo, but what are you talking about? The Hawaii Department of Health has provide both the current form of birth certificates, which I myself have the same type of copy in my safe of my own BC, but has even released the original one, which again looks every bit like my own original form and very similar to the form that my mother and grandmother owns.<quoted text>
I believe in proof, and Obama has none.
You got any, like maybe a long form birth certificate with a raised visible embossed seal for Obama?
Fake birth certificates only prove fraud has occurred.
All Obama has is a fraudulent birth certificate.
The real issue is that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.
That takes TWO U.S. citizen parents.
Obama doesn't have that.
Maybe it's just because I am born and raised here in Hawaii that I can't see where you suggesting fraud. Using your list of requirements on what is a true BC every person that was born in Hawaii has been issued fake BCs. Quite a charge you are placing there.
I don't know if this is a trend but you like another person I replied to are in the habit of defeating your point with another contradiction. Most of your post is about how fake his proof is then you turn and say that isn't even the problem it's his Father?
Good sir, I don't think that you are being kind to yourself with that logic. Not trying to insult, but you must not win much with your wife.
It is curious that I am seeing this whole 2 American parents making a true american born child trend, American isn't an ethic race, it's a nationality, if you continue to use that logic of thinking then as I posted before. Only a Native American can be president.
I don't think that you believe that. Just taking the logic to extremes to help you to understand how misleading that requirement of 2 American parents can be twisted to mean something else under the board definition of "natural born citizen". I can even understand how someone could have come to thinking that is what it must mean.