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#133720 Dec 17, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
It was LBJ and Carter that emptied the mental hospitals but since it was Reagan who closed empty mental hospitals you Libtards blame REAGAN.
You Libtards need to look in the mirror really hard as YOU are the ones to blame for the shootings a Tuscon, Aurora and Newtown, CN!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea what you are talking about. None what is so ever. The closing of those institutions was the best thing that ever happened. Study it, you'll see. As to the CT killer, what relevance does that have with emptying state hospitals?
Pardon me, but it was LBJ and Jimmy Carter that let all the "patients" out. All Ronald Reagan did was closed hospitals that were no longer being used.
I think it is you have no idea what you are talking about. It is you Libtards that would institutionalize a Conservative who said he was prepared to defend himelf while ignoring people like The New Black Panther Party members who said they want to kill people!!!

And solicited the murder or kidnapping of a citizen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
But you Libtards see knothing rong with this!

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#133721 Dec 17, 2012
Well Libtards, you probably did not hear this on any non-Fox News stations but a private citizen with a concealed carry permit stopped the massacre at this shopping mall w/o firing one single shot! And you Libtards claim that a teacher carrying a concealed carry gun could not have stopped the Sandy Hook massacre?!?
Yea, but since no George Soros' approved source carried this story, it must not be true!

Clackamas Mall Shooter Was Confonted By Concealed Carrier (Oregon)

On Tuesday night 22-year-old Nick Meli went to the Clackamas Town Center mall with his friends Casey and Ashley as well as Ashley's four month old son***. They were walking through the mall when a masked man, now known to be Jacob Tyler Roberts, opened fire.

Nick's reaction? "I heard three shots and turned and looked at Casey and said,'are you serious?'". Nick told Casey to get down with the baby and positioned himself behind a pillar in the mall. Oh yeah, Nick is a licensed concealed carrier in Oregon.

When Nick looked around the pillar he drew his concealed handgun. When the shooting suddenly stopped, what we now know was Roberts weapon jamming Nick saw him trying to clear the malfunction, "He was working on his rifle, he kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side", Nick told reporters.

Roberts and Nick clearly saw each other and as Nick lined up the shot, he knew there was a problem, "As I was going down to pull I saw someone in the back of the (shooter) move and I knew if I fired and missed I could hit them".

Unable to safely take the shot without risking innocents (Colonel Jeff Cooper's Firearms Rule #4 for those counting), Nick took cover inside a store. He stands by his choice not to pull the trigger, saying "I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him, I know after he saw me I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself".
http://easybakegunclub.com/news/1943/Clackama...

Since: May 10

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#133722 Dec 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You have no idea what you are talking about. None what is so ever. The closing of those institutions was the best thing that ever happened. Study it, you'll see. As to the CT killer, what relevance does that have with emptying state hospitals?
Well, try and use you Libtardian Logic. If the shooters at Tuscon, AZ, Aurora, CO and Newtown, CT were in mental hospitals, wood those shoots have happened? But, oh no, in your sick mind only Conservatives should in institutionalized!!!

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#133723 Dec 17, 2012
Clackamas Mall Shooter Was Confronted By Concealed Carrier (Oregon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#133724 Dec 17, 2012
Yep, to people like Jacques, they think all the Brits agree with the U.K.'s no hand gun laws.

English Warning "Our Gun Ban caused 40% jump in Gun Crime" DONT GI

Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133725 Dec 17, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I wonder what caliber his knife was and if it carried 30 blades?
22 kids slashed in knife attack at Chinese elementary school
2 days ago
Chinese state media sources report a knife-wielding man slashed 22 children at an elementary school in Henan province. The man attacked the children at the gate of a school in Chenpeng village and also wounded one adult, according to the Xinhua news agency. Police arrested a 36-year-old man, identified as villager Min Yingjun, and while the extent of the injuries inflicted by the attacker is still unclear, there have been no fatalities reported.
http://now.msn.com/china-school-knife-attack-...
Do you enjoy walking right into it? Do you enjoy proving yourself wrong without even having someone else do it? Do you enjoy proving your detractors right all by yourself?

This story you report from China proves that guns are most lethal, the exact opposite of what you push. Can you imagine if this nut had had a gun or two, instead of a knife? One, bullets are more lethal than slashing and two, one can attempt to run away from a knife, but from a gun? Hmm. And, sheer coincidence, there were 22 kids wounded, almost the same number as in Connecticut, yet as YOUR despatch says "and while the extent of the injuries inflicted by the attacker is still unclear, there have been no fatalities reported."

Poor Rogue, you appear to be in the same class, case-wise, as Orly Taitz. Hope you'd do better than she did against an empty chair.

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#133726 Dec 17, 2012
If you Libtards are so sure gun bans work, just put a "Gun Free Zone" sign in your front yard!

GUNS BANNED NATIONWIDE Coming to America

Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133727 Dec 17, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Just as soon as "ONE" of you flappers answers that all too scary hypothetical question posed by AL. BTW, I used to shoot skeet all the time! Still not looking at the "cause" huh? Figures.
Hypothetical? Better have a word with AL. She called it rhetorical. What's strange is you will not repeat the question. You can't. Why? There IS no question. The Pravda communist said she needed a gun to protect her children from wild bears. Apart from being a totally inane and stupid statement, it was NOT a question.

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#133728 Dec 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you enjoy walking right into it? Do you enjoy proving yourself wrong without even having someone else do it? Do you enjoy proving your detractors right all by yourself?
This story you report from China proves that guns are most lethal, the exact opposite of what you push. Can you imagine if this nut had had a gun or two, instead of a knife? One, bullets are more lethal than slashing and two, one can attempt to run away from a knife, but from a gun? Hmm. And, sheer coincidence, there were 22 kids wounded, almost the same number as in Connecticut, yet as YOUR despatch says "and while the extent of the injuries inflicted by the attacker is still unclear, there have been no fatalities reported."
Poor Rogue, you appear to be in the same class, case-wise, as Orly Taitz. Hope you'd do better than she did against an empty chair.
Do you know what "no fatalities reported."? It does not mean there were no fatalities, it just means the Chinese government did not report any. For all we know, all 22 children died! But we do know that the Chinese government does not report everything and what they do report is tuned-down.
I mean, would they want the world to think their country is just as bad as the evil United States is? But by making a report, they will defuse the issue if it leaks out!
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133729 Dec 17, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The aspirations of most those raised under the welfare system is to get MORE welfare money. even if they have to lie!
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Hmmmm, just how long was Mitt Romney, Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama under the welfare system? Some raise themselves out of the ghettos and make a better life for themselves and their children.
Now, I know Oprah does not have children but both Mitt and Barrack do and are they raising their children under our welfare system? In fact, Barrack's children are not being educated in the D.C. public schools. Why?
Oh, I know a welfare couple and they BOTH have iPods while I have a simple Sanyo flight phone. Because it fits in my pocket and if it gets wrecked, lost, etc. it won't cost much to replace.
<quoted text>
Rogue Scholar OR wrote:
Several points again. You did not address one of my points. We are not playing dodge ball here. Again, you brought up Mitts Romney, Oprah Winfrey and Barrack Obama so when did they get taken off welfare!!!
Next, the is no life time limit on welfare for children and nothing about state welfare system.
As far as smart phones, I can afford them by those two on welfare can not can not. I chose not to own a "smart" phone for the reasons I listed above. I am tired as a tax payer for paying for everything any poor person says they need!
The poverty rate of the United States is the lowest of any country. Just because we say they are in poverty, doesn't mean they are. In most countries our poor are actually rich!
You wrote "The poverty rate of the United States is the lowest of any country"

Another baseless and groundless non-researched statement. You're "throwing it out there" again to feed your birhter ilk's insatiable appetite for self-agrandissement. How juvenile. You are NOT the country with the lowest poverty rate. No country with a population of over 300 million, the 3rd largest in the world, with varying levels of riches, classes, ethnicities etc can boast of the lowest poverty rage of any country. Give us some numbers to prove that, Rogue. Believable numbers, not WND.com numbers please.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#133730 Dec 17, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Bad news Birfoons - the Constitutionally mandated process marches on
http://politics.heraldtribune.com/2012/12/16/...
Sexually explicit rants cost Fitzgerald spokeswoman her job

Sarasota Democrat Keith Fitzgerald’s new communications director did not last a week.

“With my New Orleans-cultured sarcasm and wit, I take extraordinary pleasure ripping through these neo-confederate, knuckle-draggin’ misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, union-bashing, child-hating Tea Party Republican Neanderthals,” Rosato writes on the website.

http://politics.heraldtribune.com/2012/10/01/...

Thanks ltr ;0)
For showing this site ...
libTARDS love "vulgarity" ...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133731 Dec 17, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
In the military you maybe court-martialed for serious injuries or deaths if it is done by you negligence. Hillary Clinton has admitted responsibility in the Benghazi fiasco which lead to the deaths of four Americans. She too should be tried and for the very same reasons this Captain was tried!
Pilot Found Not Guilty in Airdrop Case
Dec 15, 2012; The News Tribune, Tacoma, Wash.|
A 10-officer court-martial panel on Friday found Joint Base Lewis-McChord pilot Capt. Jared Foley not guilty of dereliction of duty and reckless endangerment in the 2011 death of an Army paratrooper from the West Virginia National Guard.
Foley, 37, had faced 21/2 years in prison for approving an airdrop that led to the death of Sgt. Francis Campion, 31, of Hollidaysburg, Pa.
Foley closed his eyes and seemed to hold back tears when the colonel who led the court-martial panel read the verdict. Capt. Sarah Carlson, one of Foley's defense attorneys, could not stop from crying.
He embraced a courtroom full of supporters, most of them Air Force officers in flight suits or brown leather jackets.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/12/15...
Yes, court-martial Hillary Clinton. Who're you gonna court martial for 6,500 Afghanistan and Iraq US military deaths? May I suggest GWB., VP Cheney, close advisor Rove, Powell, Rumsfeld, Rice. We can start with those. And forget Hillary, she's small fry compared to these guys.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#133732 Dec 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Hypothetical? Better have a word with AL. She called it rhetorical. What's strange is you will not repeat the question. You can't. Why? There IS no question. The Pravda communist said she needed a gun to protect her children from wild bears. Apart from being a totally inane and stupid statement, it was NOT a question.
WHAT was it then ???:)

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#133733 Dec 17, 2012
In SKorea I went to the local train station at six a.m. and when I arrived there were a half dozen drunks sleeping on benches. As I purchased my ticket, the adjacent ticket agent was dialing the telephone.
Within a few minutes the cops arrived and beat the drunks with night sticks and forced them outside. Why? They did not want a Westerner like me seeing their problems. And I can only assume the Chinese are the same way.
"See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil", naw, every country has their dark side and pretending it is not there does not address the problem.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#133735 Dec 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain what your point is in posting this.
It was NOT to you, was iT?
Idiots wouldn't understand!
As "proven" by by "theoretical" question ...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133736 Dec 17, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Well then pick out only the best parts of the U.S. Your games are very transparent and childish. If you say Europe, then include all of Europe! Now, we all know why you don't want to do that. LOL
Whoa. US is a country. Europe, unless you're Sarah Palin, is not a country. And I told you why Eastern Europe is different. Everyone knows that except you, it seems. Okay, explain away Australia, NZ, Japan, Canada, South Korea etc
Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#133737 Dec 17, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>

Thanks ltr ;0)
For showing this site ...
libTARDS love "vulgarity" ...
Happy to help fuel the great Birfistan obsession with any article that includes the word "homosexual"

Since: May 10

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#133738 Dec 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote "The poverty rate of the United States is the lowest of any country"
Another baseless and groundless non-researched statement. You're "throwing it out there" again to feed your birhter ilk's insatiable appetite for self-agrandissement. How juvenile. You are NOT the country with the lowest poverty rate. No country with a population of over 300 million, the 3rd largest in the world, with varying levels of riches, classes, ethnicities etc can boast of the lowest poverty rage of any country. Give us some numbers to prove that, Rogue. Believable numbers, not WND.com numbers please.
You mean like one of YOUR looney-tooney-lefty sources? Now let's take this source which states the U.S. is #123 out of 157. In other words they are saying that Serbia,#142, has a lower poverty rate than the U.S.?

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#133739 Dec 17, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Several points again. You did not address one of my points. We are not playing dodge ball here. Again, you brought up Mitts Romney, Oprah Winfrey and Barrack Obama so when did they get taken off welfare!!!
Next, the is no life time limit on welfare for children and nothing about state welfare system.
As far as smart phones, I can afford them by those two on welfare can not can not. I chose not to own a "smart" phone for the reasons I listed above. I am tired as a tax payer for paying for everything any poor person says they need!
The poverty rate of the United States is the lowest of any country. Just because we say they are in poverty, doesn't mean they are. In most countries our poor are actually rich!
You have no points Rogue, you simply make unsupported statements. I never said Mitt Romney or anyone else was on welfare. First off Lenore Romney said George Romney benefited from welfare not Mitt.

My point by mentioning George, Obama and Oprah was to suggest that a support net for one down on his luck is totally unrelated to your fantasy of an institutionalized plantation where everyone sits watching their 60, playing with their iPod and drinking Bud light.

To your second point to even suggest that kids get put off welfare because you assume that’s where your tax dollars are being directed is laughable; especially in light of the fact that twice as much is being spent on corporate welfare.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending...

Had Romney got elected your tax dollars would have probably went in his pocket since he more than likely don’t pay any.

BTW, it was Oprah and Obama’s mother’s who were on welfare just as George and his family according to Lenore. Obviously neither was institutionalized by it.


Incidentally, the US is far from the country with the lowest poverty rate. Another one of your fallacies Rogue?
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133740 Dec 17, 2012
LRS wrote:
jacqie, you don't mind a study from Harvard do you?
http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gun_con...
I've long known about that report. It's one man's/woman's opinion, which I respect. They, however, speak for themselves, not Harvard. And their findings go against all other statistics, some of which I've presented here. Also, this report, by two persons, and respectable ones at that, were of them, as I said, not Harvard's, is pounced upon by the "American Civil Rights Union", an ultra-right-wing organisations founded by Reagan cronies and probably closely affiliated to, you guessed it, the NRA.

But, that's fine, it's a study and worth considering. But the very idea that more guns in the hands of citizens does not lead to more killings is a non-starter.

Do you also mind a study from Harvard school of public health, which totally contradicts the study heralded by the ACRU :

Harvard Injury Control Research Center

Homicide

1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review).

Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.

Hepburn, Lisa; Hemenway, David. Firearm availability and homicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior: A Review Journal. 2004; 9:417-40.


2. Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide.

We analyzed the relationship between homicide and gun availability using data from 26 developed countries from the early 1990s. We found that across developed countries, where guns are more available, there are more homicides. These results often hold even when the United States is excluded.

Hemenway, David; Miller, Matthew. Firearm availability and homicide rates across 26 high income countries. Journal of Trauma. 2000; 49:985-88.


3. Across states, more guns = more homicide

Using a validated proxy for firearm ownership, we analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and homicide across 50 states over a ten year period (1988-1997).

After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of homicide, particularly firearm homicide.

Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. Household firearm ownership levels and homicide rates across U.S. regions and states, 1988-1997. American Journal of Public Health. 2002: 92:1988-1993.


4. Across states, more guns = more homicide (2)

Using survey data on rates of household gun ownership, we examined the association between gun availability and homicide across states, 2001-2003. We found that states with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm homicide and overall homicide. This relationship held for both genders and all age groups, after accounting for rates of aggravated assault, robbery, unemployment, urbanization, alcohol consumption, and resource deprivation (e.g., poverty). There was no association between gun prevalence and non-firearm homicide.

Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. State-level homicide victimization rates in the U.S. in relation to survey measures of household firearm ownership, 2001-2003. Social Science and Medicine. 2007; 64:656-64.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

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