God, you are dense. You don't know the difference between East and West Europe, do you? I explained to you why East Europe was different, its post-ward history, what happened to weapons sold on black market by departing Russians and demobilized east Europe military. Give East Europe another 20 years to catch up to the west and you'll see murder rates by guns equal that of western Europe. Fact is, Western Europe has seen nothing but democracies, very prosperous as compared to eastern Europe, and no oversupply of illegal arms that do drive citizens to crime because of unfavourable economic circumstances. You forgot to mention Australia, NZ, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Scandinavia, all democracies with strict gun laws like western Europe. I know you'll jump all over the Norway massacres of 77 people, a very sad but once-in-a-lifetime incident. In spite of that, Norway, pop 10 million, had 90 murders for the whole year, less than Atlanta.Oh jacqie, when you list "Europe" you do include all these "european" countries, right?
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Vatican City (Holy See)
I didn't think so.
Would be healthy for you to get out, travel the world a bit, see what makes OTHER peoples tick.