BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133438 Dec 15, 2012
Jock Jizzbucket Ottawa wrote:
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Whats the matter skid marks??? Your boyfriend didn't give you any last night??? I only have no class when dealing with libturds.
Jock Jizzbucket , Rogue, Rush, they all look pretty much the same every day. Not sayin', but the language...Of course, all birther language is foul, dirty, childish, so they may be different birthers. Time will tell.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133439 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Her guns may have saved her more than once. We don't know, do we? The guns should have been locked up with no key in the home. Only the owners should have keys and they should keep them on their person.
Pathetic. She's dead by her own gun. Fact. There is no evidence that her guns ever protected her in her home.There are many more such instances. BTW a grown male can generally take the keys from a woman. Most women killed by gunshot in home are killed by relative, husband, boyfriend etc., who know where the keys are.
Try thinking before blabbering.
wojar wrote:
Circumstances? Every woman who is killed by her own gun is a victim of circumstances, including having a gun in the house.
Now how well did Nancy Lanza's guns protect her?
Since UR afraid of the answer I'll give it to you. They didn't protect her at all.
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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133440 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Firearms have killed no one. Will you ever see the real issue? Something tells me....no.
"I didn't kill her, officer, my fists did. "
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133442 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
LRS wrote:
Total deaths by firearms in 2010 per state.
California - 953
Texas - 581
Pennsylvania - 367
Illinois - 355
Georgia - 315
Maryland - 272
Louisiana - 263
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Okay
Population, Louisana, 5 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 263
Population, Germany, 90 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 650
You said there was no discussion yesterday (there was). Care to discuss the huge humongous enormous diversity in those numbers?
And try all over Europe.§ame results. Why? No illegal immigrants, in Europe, no drugs in Europe, no booze in Europe, no criminals in Europe, no video games and cellulars and ipods and violent movies and violent tv programmes in Europe? You bet they have all that. And as I said yesterday, in our "non-discussion", non-lethal crime in Europe is as high as in the U.S., they are no better or worse than you guys - so why this huge difference in gun homicides and therefore in murders? Gun control? Maybe, no?
And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133443 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I posted numbers. Real numbers. You didn't comment, except to repeat that gun control does not work even though the numbers show the exact opposite. You also wrote that education, people, might be different in Europe. They're not. Neither are we here, and the ratio is 6 to 1. But you never do comment on that.
LRS wrote:
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Are you Grand Birther? Confession perhaps?
Out of replies, or out of profanity, should I say? I'm ME. And don't bother replying to the original post,(above). Discussing with you is not a possibility, even remote.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133444 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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You're correct, we did exchange a few posts comparing the situations. It was after that, that Grand Birther jumped in with Louisiana stats and it was necessary that I correct him. You are right. My bad.
Merci.
But it's ok if he jumps in, if anyone jumps in, it's a forum.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133445 Dec 15, 2012
wojar wrote:
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Pathetic. She's dead by her own gun. Fact. There is no evidence that her guns ever protected her in her home.There are many more such instances. BTW a grown male can generally take the keys from a woman. Most women killed by gunshot in home are killed by relative, husband, boyfriend etc., who know where the keys are.
Try thinking before blabbering.
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I doubt she was able to protect herself 28 times with ther guns

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133447 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
Her guns may have saved her more than once. We don't know, do we? The guns should have been locked up with no key in the home. Only the owners should have keys and they should keep them on their person.
Brilliant. A husband and wife are gun owners and husband shoots wife.
(A common scenario.)
Wife dead.
Only the owners had keys.
Got a clue?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133448 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
Nope,I supplied numbers yesterday. The U.S. has the highest gun ownership in the whole wide world, numero UNO, 88 per 100 population. If you exclude under 18s, and persons over 85 years of age, that is more than one gun per adult. That is a lot of weapons.

There are cultural differences between Europe and North America, I can attest to that any tiem, but not societal. They are stuck with the same good stuff and the same crap that you and I are.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133449 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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If you don't deal with the "cause" you're only plugging a dam with a piece of gum. You can cage an animal but you can't take away the rage. Stem the rage and you'll see progress. And really Mobarf, don't try and bring race into this. Very cheap and petty.
Solutions deal with causes. Moaning and whining about quixotic causes is not worth a bucket of spit.

Don't bring race into it? I'm not the ugly bigot with asinine "water species" and "land species" rants.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133450 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I doubt she was able to protect herself 28 times with ther guns
There's no discussing it with me? Okay. So far, I think you and I are the only ones who have attempted to. But that's cool. The "fact" of the matter is neither you nor Mobarf know whether those guns had protected her or her family in the past. Do you? No you do not. Spit out your gum, the dam is going to start leaking again soon. This makes the second time I've tried to converse with you without being rude. Each time you returned your hateful ways. Whatever. Better get your broom out also, there's quite a bit that needs to swept under the rug instead of being dealt with.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133452 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
These solutions?

You have not specified a single solution with viable means to achieve desired end. Rather. you have ranted on. Grow up.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#133453 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Isn't that precisely what you and your sore-leaser in-denial birther friends were advocating last week?
Don't have to advocate anything, no Constitution, no Union.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133454 Dec 15, 2012
Birfoon: "People ain't got no respect no more! And doctors give out too much medication!

Yep, mah solooshuns ain't purfuct but they do get to the heart of the matter fer dang shure!"
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#133455 Dec 15, 2012
Poppo wrote:
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Says the ignorant birfoon hick from Wichita whose entire existence is predicated on hate and envy. Why does the birfoon readily assume that his perverted hatred of Obama somehow equates to Obama hates America?
That Obama has a different view of America than you is evident. That the majority of the electorate does not share your view was thoroughly expressed on November the 6th last.
Everything that Obama stands for is contrary to the US Constitution. We are not a Democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic, a Republic that is controlled by a Constitution, not the whims of the mob.
If you don't want to follow the law of the land, I am sure you can find another country to your liking, where the mobs rule.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#133456 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I can understand your reluctance to not keep count. I'm sure I wouldn't.
I'm not as familiar with the Constitution as you obviously are, therefore and inorder to further my education, I'd be most grateful if you could point me to the articles of the Constitution that say, and I quote "There is a difference between a Capitalist and a Marxist-Socialist Bastard! The Constitution covers us Capitalist, but not you" . Does it really say capitalism is covered by the Constitution and socialism is not? Thank you in advance.
14th amendment!

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#133457 Dec 15, 2012
Is Obama Moving To Criminalize Criticism Of Islam?.....You Be The Judge........

If you simply pull back the curtain and look at what Obama has been doing in plain sight—inviting groups convicted of terrorism into the White House, having Muslim Brotherhood members within the State Department, purging training materials of anything critical of Islam–you would find that this whole “conspiracy theory” goes by another term: the truth.
http://patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show...

Thought Process Of An Obama Voter
http://patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#133458 Dec 15, 2012
Yep, if more people respected the law there would be less crime!!!
How's at fer a dang solooshun? Eh, libtards?
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#133459 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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No sane person ever read American er hmm Christmas grinch Lady's cut-and-paste plagiarism. Do you really think that anyone in his/her right mind except looney tooney birthers like you will click on those extreme right-wing nutbar links?
You have no idea what a "Come to Jesus Meeting" is, has nothing to do with religion. Suggest you try to find it!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133460 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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There's no discussing it with me? Okay. So far, I think you and I are the only ones who have attempted to. But that's cool. The "fact" of the matter is neither you nor Mobarf know whether those guns had protected her or her family in the past. Do you? No you do not. Spit out your gum, the dam is going to start leaking again soon. This makes the second time I've tried to converse with you without being rude. Each time you returned your hateful ways. Whatever. Better get your broom out also, there's quite a bit that needs to swept under the rug instead of being dealt with.
Not been rude. I was just a bit earlier on, was replying in kind.

I agree, no one knows how often she protected herself with her guns. But 28 times?

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