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You're wrong. If you are skilled in your occupation or profession and your skills are in demand, you will be well paid. There are two problems with Unions. They try and inflate pay commensurate to their skills and performance and they skim off the people's hard earned pay.
When "bakers" are making $85,000 a year and they get upset they have to help pay for their retirements, something is wrong. When you have to have duplicate jobs to accomplish a task, something is wrong.
When I was trucking, 1993-2006, I went to a lot of warehouses and and union shops were the worst. I have refused to deliver to some customers it was that bad. I would rather make deliveries to Walmart and Publix and Albertsons, Food Lion and a few others. Winn-Dixie was one of the few union shops that treated truck drivers fairly well.
Wrong, Rogue. Okay, I'll accept that a baker was earning upwards of $85,000 a year. Will you accept that the CEO was earning over $1.5 million a year, and with his exec minions paid in the millions? Do you accept that the CEO should earn upwards of 15 times the annual emolument that the indispensable baker earns? Is that a good ratio? Can the baker do without the company? NO. Can the company do without the baker? NO. CEO should by all rights earn more than the baker, yes, I agree, but 15 times more? Why? Does he own the company? NO. Is he the company's founder? In most cases, NO.

I've dealt with unionized AND non-unionized people all my life. Some good, some bad from both on an equal basis. Sorry you had bad experiences, but I ask, why were the unionized Winn-Dixie okay and not the others?

As I asked before, Rogue, are the big guys paying you for being in their servitude?

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You can always tell a birfoon is rattled when they reply to the same post twice.
LMAO!!!
"Ah duhhh I thowt of somethin else to say, ahh duhhh."
Yea, sad, some people think that if you can't understand something the first time they expect you Libtards to get it a second time. It is sort of like talking louder makes you points clearer.
Just look at the union thugs at the protest in Michigan where the union thugs attacked old people and handicapped people in wheel chairs.

See No Union Violence, Report No Union Violence
By John Fund

“We had been contacted by that group that they had three or four people that were actually trapped underneath the tent,” Lieutenant Mike Shaw of the Michigan State Police told MLive.com , which filmed the incident.“Two of them were in wheelchairs and there was also a propane tank in there. So we had to send troopers out, and naturally, the crowd was not too receptive.” Indeed, MLive.com reported that troopers were called scabs and were often blocked from going through the crowd. Luckily, no one was injured and everyone was able to leave the tent before it completely collapsed.

Conservative comedian Steven Crowder wasn’t so lucky. Film footage showed union protesters yelling “Kill him!” at him, then punching him in the face. He later Tweeted photos himself with a cut on his forehead and a chipped tooth.

AFL-CIO rep Eddie Vale deplored “the actions taken by a small group of people” but then claimed they were taunted into it.“The disciples of James O’Keefe were attempting to instigate the crowd all day,” he told reporters.

I couldn’t find any footage of such instigation on the many left-wing websites I perused. It’s possible it wasn’t caught on tape, but there were an awful lot of amateur cameras in Lansing on Tuesday. On the other hand, if you watched almost all the TV news reports and read the Associated Press’s 27-paragraph account of the Lansing protests, you would never have learned of the collapsing AFP tent or the attack on Steven Crowder. Luckily, independent videographers were there to record the incidents and make sure they don’t completely disappear down the memory hole. But as far as most of the mainstream media were concerned, the incidents didn’t happen.
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that's right knuckledragger
We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
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<quoted text>that's right knuckledragger
Morning Skid. Longtime no smell

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Wrong, Rogue. Okay, I'll accept that a baker was earning upwards of $85,000 a year. Will you accept that the CEO was earning over $1.5 million a year, and with his exec minions paid in the millions? Do you accept that the CEO should earn upwards of 15 times the annual emolument that the indispensable baker earns? Is that a good ratio? Can the baker do without the company? NO. Can the company do without the baker? NO. CEO should by all rights earn more than the baker, yes, I agree, but 15 times more? Why? Does he own the company? NO. Is he the company's founder? In most cases, NO.
I've dealt with unionized AND non-unionized people all my life. Some good, some bad from both on an equal basis. Sorry you had bad experiences, but I ask, why were the unionized Winn-Dixie okay and not the others?
As I asked before, Rogue, are the big guys paying you for being in their servitude?
You do know that CEO's have to "earn" what they get and if they don't, they will be fired. That is how corporations work.
Corporations are owned by the shareholders and and if they don't like what the CEO is doing, they can him. And then they go out and hire a CEO who will. And just like a movie producer who will get a high paid actor, the hires a high paid CEO who will bring home the bacon.
Tell me Jacques, to you get upset about the amount of money "some" actors, athletes, musicians, singers, etc. make? Why not hire a second rate actor so you can have cheaper tickets?
Oh, they do have a professional baseball team here in Jacksonville but it is not major league, it is MINOR league. But you can get just as much entertainment and save money, can't you?
I have never been to the races in Daytona but I have been to a local dirt track and I enjoy it a whole lot better.

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There is a race track near East St. Louis, IL which is now called the Gateway Motorsports Park but back in the mid-1990's is was just a local track. I was stuck at the truck stop across the street one weekend so I walked over to see the local drag race. I use to enjoy it. They had the local boys, and a few girls, all armatures just enjoying themselves.
And then someone expanded it into something much bigger and now it is no longer interesting to me. You don't have to pay big bucks to get entertained.

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Oh Jacques, how much is the director of the American Red Cross compensated? How about the Salvation Army? How about Unicef? How about Catholic relied?
Now, how much of each buck people donate to those organizations actually gets to the people who are in need?

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that's right knuckledragger
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We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
1. knuckledragger
A really dumb redneck, country bumpkin
Larry The Cable Guy ain't nothin' but a knuckledragger

2. knuckledragger
Someone who's intelligence is less than or equal to that of your average caveman.
Wow, he really thought spending 803 Billion dollars we don't have was the way to fix the economy. What a knuckledragger!
buy knuckledragger mugs & shirts
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_...

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Bus Stop Quiz
You are driving down the road in your car on a wild, stormy night, when you pass by a bus stop and you see three people waiting for the bus:

1. An old lady who looks as if she is about to die.

2. An old friend who once saved your life.

3. The perfect partner you have been dreaming about.

Which one would you choose to offer a ride to, knowing that there could only be one passenger in your car?

Think before you continue reading.


This is a moral/ethical dilemma that was once actually used as part of a job application.

You could pick up the old lady, because she is going to die, and thus you should save her first.

Or you could take the old friend because he once saved your life, and this would be the perfect chance to pay him back.

However, you may never be able to find your perfect mate again.

YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS..........

The candidate who was hired (out of 200 applicants) had no trouble coming up with his answer.

He simply answered:'I would give the car keys to my old friend and let him take the lady to the hospital.

I would stay behind and wait for the bus with the partner of my dreams.'

Sometimes, we gain more if we are able to give up our stubborn thought limitations.

Never forget to 'Think Outside of the Box.'


HOWEVER....,

The correct answer is to run the old lady over and put her out of her misery because Obama's health care won't pay for her hospital visit anyway, have sex with the perfect partner on the hood of the car, then drive off with the old friend for a few beers.

God, I just love happy endings...

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Then as it turns out you did not see Obama on “film”(to use your word) saying he wouldn’t run for re-election?
Surely you didn’t think your diatribe was going to distract me from the original subject did you Mr. Liars?
Surely you understand what "or this will be a one term proposition" means? Mr. Moocher!
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Obama will be sworn in for his second term in January. The public swearing in ceremony will be on January 21. Later that month or in early February he will deliver the State of the Union Address to Congress.
Today is 12/14/12 and Omama is still a liar and a fraud who has done nothing in 4 years. Except bankrupt us of course. Layoffs are coming big time Jan. 1st.
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Thanks to Topix, we now get links instead of pages-long birther plagiarism from American er hmm Pravda cut-and-paste plagiarist communist Lady. There is a god after all.
We three kings of orient are,
bearing gifts we traverse afar
Field and fountain,
moor and mountain,
following yonder star.
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Melchior]
Born a King on Bethlehem's plain,
Gold I bring to crown Him again
King for ever, ceasing never
over us all to reign.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Casper]
Frankincense to offer have I,
incense owns a Deity nigh
Prayer and praising, all men raising,
Worship Him, God most high.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Balthazar]
Myrrh is mine,
its bitter perfume breathes
a life of gathering gloom.
Sorrowing, sighing, bleeding, dying,
sealed in the stone cold tomb.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
Glorious now behold Him arise,
King and God and Sacrifice!
Al-le-lu-ia, al-le-lu-ia,
heaven to earth replies.
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
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Thinking of starting a new group called IIB (institutionalize insane birthers). What does everyone think?
Everyone thinks (knows) you're a copycat! pigeon
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You do know that CEO's have to "earn" what they get and if they don't, they will be fired. That is how corporations work.
Corporations are owned by the shareholders and and if they don't like what the CEO is doing, they can him. And then they go out and hire a CEO who will. And just like a movie producer who will get a high paid actor, the hires a high paid CEO who will bring home the bacon.
Tell me Jacques, to you get upset about the amount of money "some" actors, athletes, musicians, singers, etc. make? Why not hire a second rate actor so you can have cheaper tickets?
Oh, they do have a professional baseball team here in Jacksonville but it is not major league, it is MINOR league. But you can get just as much entertainment and save money, can't you?
I have never been to the races in Daytona but I have been to a local dirt track and I enjoy it a whole lot better.
How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?

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that's right knuckledragger
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
1. knuckledragger
A really dumb redneck, country bumpkin
Larry The Cable Guy ain't nothin' but a knuckledragger

2. knuckledragger
Someone who's intelligence is less than or equal to that of your average caveman.
Wow, he really thought spending 803 Billion dollars we don't have was the way to fix the economy. What a knuckledragger!
buy knuckledragger mugs & shirts
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php ...
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_ ...
Again, the Libtards throw out the Race Card;

Andrea Mitchell:'Woman of color' blocked from secretary of state bad for GOP

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/14/an...

Did Andrea Michell ever bring out the Race Card when Liberals complained about Sec. of State Condi Rice? Why now? How pathetic people like Jacques is!

That's tight, it is from Fox News because the Libtard News Media will not address the issue. Because they, being Libtards, are the offenders!
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Oh Jacques, how much is the director of the American Red Cross compensated? How about the Salvation Army? How about Unicef? How about Catholic relied?
Now, how much of each buck people donate to those organizations actually gets to the people who are in need?
You want to get the best people for those charitable organisations, don't you? And you expect them to hold that important and difficult a job and not be paid? You want them to work for nothing or peanuts? And how do you attract the good ones?

Are you for one second comparing the salaries of corporations heads to heads of the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Unicef? Really? Salvation army? Major in charge makes about %60,000 a year, in ANY city. Yes, Unicef, Red Cross chiefs make over $200,000. That sounds fair to me, in view of the scope of the work they do and the qualifications and experience required to hold such an important job. Again, how does that compare with private enterprise?

As to the proportion of admin costs and actual moneys donated, I'm not going out on a limb on that, but you certainly don't hesitate to do so. Have you any figures? And if so, anything to back them up? I do know, from the yearly reports they submit, that the Salvation Army here in Ottawa, along with Union Mission and Shepherds of Good Hope spend more or less 15% on administration, rest going to good works. Sounds awfully reasonable to me.

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How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Ah, because the corporate melt down was NOT their fault!
Next, what portion of a product, example, does the CEO take? Now, what portion of a product does the people who made it take? Talking about comparing apples and oranges!!!
Oh, why to governments have such a high supervisor to worker rate when compared to the private sector? That is right. Typical governments have twice as many supervisors as do private sectors.
Compare a police department to a private security company and you will see just what I mean.
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How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Lunasquid doesn't understand there's a difference between a CEO and a laborer. Private sector....butt out! lunatic!!!
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that's right knuckledragger
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There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
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Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_...
Read again, I even said you would never ever make a racial remark, didn't I? So why the outraged defensive stance? Feeling guilty? You know darn well what knuckledragger means, specially when addressing a black person. Read and hang your head in shame for you knew very well it was a racist remark :

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php... ...

"Stereotypical and racially prejudice term referring to people of African decent. Stems from the idea of these people having long, monkey like arms."

OF AFRICAN DECENT, Rogue. What a flaming hypocrite (Rogue, tm reg'd) you are. What a racist. Knuckledragger indeed. This is not the first time you allow your racist nature to ooze out.

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Until the the early 1980's every Army aviation battalion had a fire crew just in case there was a crash. And then along came Ronald Reagan and they did a survey.
Unlike civilian airports where most crashes occur at the airfield, most military crashes occur away from the airfield. And they decided to do away with tactical fire detachments and most of the firemen were re-qualified in specialties that were in greater need. They called it "More bang for the buck".
Yes, Ronald Reagan trimmed the fat and saved taxpayers money!

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