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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133429 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You and I exchanged a minimum of 3 posts on the subject, and surprisingly, not a harsh word, not a profanity from either side. You did totally ignore what I wrote about Europe, but that's okay, you don't have to read it, your business. But to say there was no discussion is incorrect. I even threw statistics at you, not cut-and-paste, but black on white statistics.
LRS wrote:
I made several posts yesterday as to what I thought the real problem was.
Any jagoff can propose quixotic causes; has nothing to do with rational solutions. Let's go back to the good old days when people had respect and ------- couldn't look at a white woman. That's the ticket!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133430 Dec 15, 2012
wojar wrote:
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Circumstances? Every woman who is killed by her own gun is a victim of circumstances, including having a gun in the house.
Now how well did Nancy Lanza's guns protect her?
Since UR afraid of the answer I'll give it to you. They didn't protect her at all.
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Her guns may have saved her more than once. We don't know, do we? The guns should have been locked up with no key in the home. Only the owners should have keys and they should keep them on their person.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133431 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
Total deaths by firearms in 2010 per state.
California - 953
Texas - 581
Pennsylvania - 367
Illinois - 355
Georgia - 315
Maryland - 272
Louisiana - 263
LRS wrote:
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Merely a reminder.
Okay

Population, Louisana, 5 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 263
Population, Germany, 90 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 650

You said there was no discussion yesterday (there was). Care to discuss the huge humongous enormous diversity in those numbers?

And try all over Europe.§ame results. Why? No illegal immigrants, in Europe, no drugs in Europe, no booze in Europe, no criminals in Europe, no video games and cellulars and ipods and violent movies and violent tv programmes in Europe? You bet they have all that. And as I said yesterday, in our "non-discussion", non-lethal crime in Europe is as high as in the U.S., they are no better or worse than you guys - so why this huge difference in gun homicides and therefore in murders? Gun control? Maybe, no?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133432 Dec 15, 2012
wojar wrote:
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Any jagoff can propose quixotic causes; has nothing to do with rational solutions. Let's go back to the good old days when people had respect and ------- couldn't look at a white woman. That's the ticket!
If you don't deal with the "cause" you're only plugging a dam with a piece of gum. You can cage an animal but you can't take away the rage. Stem the rage and you'll see progress. And really Mobarf, don't try and bring race into this. Very cheap and petty.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133433 Dec 15, 2012
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Circumstances, schmuck!
Grow a brain, WoTARD!
Circunmstances that one would like to avoid. So, your ansswer is "circumstances"? Are you proud of that DOH answer?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133434 Dec 15, 2012
commenter2001 wrote:
President Obama Raised More Military Donations Than Mitt Romney
President Obama beat Mitt Romney in donations from active and former military donors this past election cycle. The new information comes from the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-profit, money in politics watchdog that tracked donations from military members throughout the presidential campaign. Throughout the presidential campaign, Republicans claimed that the President was anti-military. Some, like Rick Santorum, even said that President Obama was “intentionally trying to degrade our military.” Despite the Republican rhetoric, the President raised nearly $950,000 in donations from former and active military members. That’s compared to $753,000 for Mitt Romney. Here’s the OpenSecrets chart on the donations throughout the campaign:
(See chart at link)
This is hardly a new trend: President Obama received more donations from military members who donated $200 or more than Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) in 2008. The President consistently garnered more donations than Romney from those in the military: last September, President Obama had bested Mitt Romney by more than $50,000 and earlier this year he had raised $100,000 more than the former Massachusetts governor. What’s more, Romney even lost the military donations battle to Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) in the GOP presidential nomination fight.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/14/...
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Good one. I suspected as much. I've read so many articles that said military coming home from assignments are receiving much better treatment, whether injured physically or mentally, or not injured at all. Better follows-up mostly is what I've read. I think a lot these men and women appreciate their president. I'm sure they also like having been taken out of harm's way in Iraq and soon in Afghanistan.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133436 Dec 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You don't even have an idea what a Bushmaster is! And I do!!!
They make AR-15 of which the M-16 and M-4 were based on. And .223 REMINGTON is the same as 5.56mm NATO!
You may go to Gun Genie and look it up.
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.as...
I bet the victims know what a bushmaster is.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133437 Dec 15, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
After 179 consecutive losses Oily draws a black man as a Judge.
Rouge goes apeshat in 3 ... 2 ....
Ha Ha. Black but not knuckledragger, no no...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133438 Dec 15, 2012
Jock Jizzbucket Ottawa wrote:
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Whats the matter skid marks??? Your boyfriend didn't give you any last night??? I only have no class when dealing with libturds.
Jock Jizzbucket , Rogue, Rush, they all look pretty much the same every day. Not sayin', but the language...Of course, all birther language is foul, dirty, childish, so they may be different birthers. Time will tell.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133439 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Her guns may have saved her more than once. We don't know, do we? The guns should have been locked up with no key in the home. Only the owners should have keys and they should keep them on their person.
Pathetic. She's dead by her own gun. Fact. There is no evidence that her guns ever protected her in her home.There are many more such instances. BTW a grown male can generally take the keys from a woman. Most women killed by gunshot in home are killed by relative, husband, boyfriend etc., who know where the keys are.
Try thinking before blabbering.
wojar wrote:
Circumstances? Every woman who is killed by her own gun is a victim of circumstances, including having a gun in the house.
Now how well did Nancy Lanza's guns protect her?
Since UR afraid of the answer I'll give it to you. They didn't protect her at all.
<quoted text>
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133440 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Firearms have killed no one. Will you ever see the real issue? Something tells me....no.
"I didn't kill her, officer, my fists did. "
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133442 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
LRS wrote:
Total deaths by firearms in 2010 per state.
California - 953
Texas - 581
Pennsylvania - 367
Illinois - 355
Georgia - 315
Maryland - 272
Louisiana - 263
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Okay
Population, Louisana, 5 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 263
Population, Germany, 90 million. Number of murders, 2010 : 650
You said there was no discussion yesterday (there was). Care to discuss the huge humongous enormous diversity in those numbers?
And try all over Europe.§ame results. Why? No illegal immigrants, in Europe, no drugs in Europe, no booze in Europe, no criminals in Europe, no video games and cellulars and ipods and violent movies and violent tv programmes in Europe? You bet they have all that. And as I said yesterday, in our "non-discussion", non-lethal crime in Europe is as high as in the U.S., they are no better or worse than you guys - so why this huge difference in gun homicides and therefore in murders? Gun control? Maybe, no?
And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133443 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I posted numbers. Real numbers. You didn't comment, except to repeat that gun control does not work even though the numbers show the exact opposite. You also wrote that education, people, might be different in Europe. They're not. Neither are we here, and the ratio is 6 to 1. But you never do comment on that.
LRS wrote:
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Are you Grand Birther? Confession perhaps?
Out of replies, or out of profanity, should I say? I'm ME. And don't bother replying to the original post,(above). Discussing with you is not a possibility, even remote.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133444 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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You're correct, we did exchange a few posts comparing the situations. It was after that, that Grand Birther jumped in with Louisiana stats and it was necessary that I correct him. You are right. My bad.
Merci.
But it's ok if he jumps in, if anyone jumps in, it's a forum.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133445 Dec 15, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathetic. She's dead by her own gun. Fact. There is no evidence that her guns ever protected her in her home.There are many more such instances. BTW a grown male can generally take the keys from a woman. Most women killed by gunshot in home are killed by relative, husband, boyfriend etc., who know where the keys are.
Try thinking before blabbering.
<quoted text>
I doubt she was able to protect herself 28 times with ther guns

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133447 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
Her guns may have saved her more than once. We don't know, do we? The guns should have been locked up with no key in the home. Only the owners should have keys and they should keep them on their person.
Brilliant. A husband and wife are gun owners and husband shoots wife.
(A common scenario.)
Wife dead.
Only the owners had keys.
Got a clue?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133448 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
Nope,I supplied numbers yesterday. The U.S. has the highest gun ownership in the whole wide world, numero UNO, 88 per 100 population. If you exclude under 18s, and persons over 85 years of age, that is more than one gun per adult. That is a lot of weapons.

There are cultural differences between Europe and North America, I can attest to that any tiem, but not societal. They are stuck with the same good stuff and the same crap that you and I are.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133449 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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If you don't deal with the "cause" you're only plugging a dam with a piece of gum. You can cage an animal but you can't take away the rage. Stem the rage and you'll see progress. And really Mobarf, don't try and bring race into this. Very cheap and petty.
Solutions deal with causes. Moaning and whining about quixotic causes is not worth a bucket of spit.

Don't bring race into it? I'm not the ugly bigot with asinine "water species" and "land species" rants.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133450 Dec 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I doubt she was able to protect herself 28 times with ther guns
There's no discussing it with me? Okay. So far, I think you and I are the only ones who have attempted to. But that's cool. The "fact" of the matter is neither you nor Mobarf know whether those guns had protected her or her family in the past. Do you? No you do not. Spit out your gum, the dam is going to start leaking again soon. This makes the second time I've tried to converse with you without being rude. Each time you returned your hateful ways. Whatever. Better get your broom out also, there's quite a bit that needs to swept under the rug instead of being dealt with.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133452 Dec 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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And one of my questions was on this very subject. I said other countries where guns are plentiful do not have the same kind of rates as we do. I asked why? Societal differences is what I think it is. Coupled, of course, with the medical community giving anti-depressants to everyone including children and allowing too many to slip through the cracks. You have to remember also, that this is the West. It's a different mindset altogether. I think even you would agree with that. Are these solutions end all cures? No. I do think, however, that this gets closer to the actual problem than putting some more laws on the books and hoping people abide by them. Out for a bit.
These solutions?

You have not specified a single solution with viable means to achieve desired end. Rather. you have ranted on. Grow up.

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