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Oh Jacques, how much is the director of the American Red Cross compensated? How about the Salvation Army? How about Unicef? How about Catholic relied?
Now, how much of each buck people donate to those organizations actually gets to the people who are in need?

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Troll for Poopo wrote:
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that's right knuckledragger
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We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
1. knuckledragger
A really dumb redneck, country bumpkin
Larry The Cable Guy ain't nothin' but a knuckledragger

2. knuckledragger
Someone who's intelligence is less than or equal to that of your average caveman.
Wow, he really thought spending 803 Billion dollars we don't have was the way to fix the economy. What a knuckledragger!
buy knuckledragger mugs & shirts
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
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Bus Stop Quiz
You are driving down the road in your car on a wild, stormy night, when you pass by a bus stop and you see three people waiting for the bus:

1. An old lady who looks as if she is about to die.

2. An old friend who once saved your life.

3. The perfect partner you have been dreaming about.

Which one would you choose to offer a ride to, knowing that there could only be one passenger in your car?

Think before you continue reading.


This is a moral/ethical dilemma that was once actually used as part of a job application.

You could pick up the old lady, because she is going to die, and thus you should save her first.

Or you could take the old friend because he once saved your life, and this would be the perfect chance to pay him back.

However, you may never be able to find your perfect mate again.

YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS..........

The candidate who was hired (out of 200 applicants) had no trouble coming up with his answer.

He simply answered:'I would give the car keys to my old friend and let him take the lady to the hospital.

I would stay behind and wait for the bus with the partner of my dreams.'

Sometimes, we gain more if we are able to give up our stubborn thought limitations.

Never forget to 'Think Outside of the Box.'


HOWEVER....,

The correct answer is to run the old lady over and put her out of her misery because Obama's health care won't pay for her hospital visit anyway, have sex with the perfect partner on the hood of the car, then drive off with the old friend for a few beers.

God, I just love happy endings...

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Then as it turns out you did not see Obama on “film”(to use your word) saying he wouldn’t run for re-election?
Surely you didn’t think your diatribe was going to distract me from the original subject did you Mr. Liars?
Surely you understand what "or this will be a one term proposition" means? Mr. Moocher!
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Obama will be sworn in for his second term in January. The public swearing in ceremony will be on January 21. Later that month or in early February he will deliver the State of the Union Address to Congress.
Today is 12/14/12 and Omama is still a liar and a fraud who has done nothing in 4 years. Except bankrupt us of course. Layoffs are coming big time Jan. 1st.
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Thanks to Topix, we now get links instead of pages-long birther plagiarism from American er hmm Pravda cut-and-paste plagiarist communist Lady. There is a god after all.
We three kings of orient are,
bearing gifts we traverse afar
Field and fountain,
moor and mountain,
following yonder star.
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Melchior]
Born a King on Bethlehem's plain,
Gold I bring to crown Him again
King for ever, ceasing never
over us all to reign.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Casper]
Frankincense to offer have I,
incense owns a Deity nigh
Prayer and praising, all men raising,
Worship Him, God most high.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
[Balthazar]
Myrrh is mine,
its bitter perfume breathes
a life of gathering gloom.
Sorrowing, sighing, bleeding, dying,
sealed in the stone cold tomb.
[all]
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
Glorious now behold Him arise,
King and God and Sacrifice!
Al-le-lu-ia, al-le-lu-ia,
heaven to earth replies.
O star of wonder, star of night,
star with royal beauty bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
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Thinking of starting a new group called IIB (institutionalize insane birthers). What does everyone think?
Everyone thinks (knows) you're a copycat! pigeon
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You do know that CEO's have to "earn" what they get and if they don't, they will be fired. That is how corporations work.
Corporations are owned by the shareholders and and if they don't like what the CEO is doing, they can him. And then they go out and hire a CEO who will. And just like a movie producer who will get a high paid actor, the hires a high paid CEO who will bring home the bacon.
Tell me Jacques, to you get upset about the amount of money "some" actors, athletes, musicians, singers, etc. make? Why not hire a second rate actor so you can have cheaper tickets?
Oh, they do have a professional baseball team here in Jacksonville but it is not major league, it is MINOR league. But you can get just as much entertainment and save money, can't you?
I have never been to the races in Daytona but I have been to a local dirt track and I enjoy it a whole lot better.
How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?

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that's right knuckledragger
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We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
1. knuckledragger
A really dumb redneck, country bumpkin
Larry The Cable Guy ain't nothin' but a knuckledragger

2. knuckledragger
Someone who's intelligence is less than or equal to that of your average caveman.
Wow, he really thought spending 803 Billion dollars we don't have was the way to fix the economy. What a knuckledragger!
buy knuckledragger mugs & shirts
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php ...
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_ ...
Again, the Libtards throw out the Race Card;

Andrea Mitchell:'Woman of color' blocked from secretary of state bad for GOP

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/14/an...

Did Andrea Michell ever bring out the Race Card when Liberals complained about Sec. of State Condi Rice? Why now? How pathetic people like Jacques is!

That's tight, it is from Fox News because the Libtard News Media will not address the issue. Because they, being Libtards, are the offenders!
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Oh Jacques, how much is the director of the American Red Cross compensated? How about the Salvation Army? How about Unicef? How about Catholic relied?
Now, how much of each buck people donate to those organizations actually gets to the people who are in need?
You want to get the best people for those charitable organisations, don't you? And you expect them to hold that important and difficult a job and not be paid? You want them to work for nothing or peanuts? And how do you attract the good ones?

Are you for one second comparing the salaries of corporations heads to heads of the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Unicef? Really? Salvation army? Major in charge makes about %60,000 a year, in ANY city. Yes, Unicef, Red Cross chiefs make over $200,000. That sounds fair to me, in view of the scope of the work they do and the qualifications and experience required to hold such an important job. Again, how does that compare with private enterprise?

As to the proportion of admin costs and actual moneys donated, I'm not going out on a limb on that, but you certainly don't hesitate to do so. Have you any figures? And if so, anything to back them up? I do know, from the yearly reports they submit, that the Salvation Army here in Ottawa, along with Union Mission and Shepherds of Good Hope spend more or less 15% on administration, rest going to good works. Sounds awfully reasonable to me.

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How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Ah, because the corporate melt down was NOT their fault!
Next, what portion of a product, example, does the CEO take? Now, what portion of a product does the people who made it take? Talking about comparing apples and oranges!!!
Oh, why to governments have such a high supervisor to worker rate when compared to the private sector? That is right. Typical governments have twice as many supervisors as do private sectors.
Compare a police department to a private security company and you will see just what I mean.
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Lunasquid doesn't understand there's a difference between a CEO and a laborer. Private sector....butt out! lunatic!!!
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that's right knuckledragger
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There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
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Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_...
Read again, I even said you would never ever make a racial remark, didn't I? So why the outraged defensive stance? Feeling guilty? You know darn well what knuckledragger means, specially when addressing a black person. Read and hang your head in shame for you knew very well it was a racist remark :

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php... ...

"Stereotypical and racially prejudice term referring to people of African decent. Stems from the idea of these people having long, monkey like arms."

OF AFRICAN DECENT, Rogue. What a flaming hypocrite (Rogue, tm reg'd) you are. What a racist. Knuckledragger indeed. This is not the first time you allow your racist nature to ooze out.

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Until the the early 1980's every Army aviation battalion had a fire crew just in case there was a crash. And then along came Ronald Reagan and they did a survey.
Unlike civilian airports where most crashes occur at the airfield, most military crashes occur away from the airfield. And they decided to do away with tactical fire detachments and most of the firemen were re-qualified in specialties that were in greater need. They called it "More bang for the buck".
Yes, Ronald Reagan trimmed the fat and saved taxpayers money!

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Lunasquid doesn't understand there's a difference between a CEO and a laborer. Private sector....butt out! lunatic!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot. It is okay to have tens of thousands of government supervisors but to have a CEO, why that is evil!
It is okay to pay actors, singers, athletes, etc. mega bucks but not CEO's!
Just think, we would have cheeped movies, cheaper concerts and cheaper sports events if only they did not pay these guys such large amounts of money. But to pay CEO's competitive wages, why that is evil!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot!

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

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I can understand your reluctance to not keep count. I'm sure I wouldn't.
I'm not as familiar with the Constitution as you obviously are, therefore and inorder to further my education, I'd be most grateful if you could point me to the articles of the Constitution that say, and I quote "There is a difference between a Capitalist and a Marxist-Socialist Bastard! The Constitution covers us Capitalist, but not you" . Does it really say capitalism is covered by the Constitution and socialism is not? Thank you in advance.
Is only Capitalism covered under the constitution?

The constitution "is not intended to embody a particular economic theory whether, of paternalism and the organic relation of the citizen to the State or of laissez faire.." Lochner v. New York, 198 U.S. 45, 75 (1905)(Holmes, J., dissenting).

The only thing that the constitution "guarantees " as a form of government for every state is that it be a "Republican Form of Government." Article IV, Section 4

As such, capitalism is not mandated in the Constitution.“The Constitution does not require the States to subscribe to any particular economic theory. We are not inclined "to second guess the empirical judgments of lawmakers concerning the utility of legislation,"(internal citation omitted) CTS Corp v. Dynamics Corporation of America, 481 U.S. 69, 92 (1987). Moreover,“As a matter of substantive policy, therefore, government is free to move in any direction, or to change directions, in the economic and commercial sphere. The structure of economic and commercial life is a matter of political compromise, not constitutional principle….” Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center, Inc., 473 US 432, 471 (1985)

Justice Brandeis in his dissenting opinion in New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262,(1932), acknowledged the various economic theories by noting: There must be power in the States and the Nation to remould, through experimentation, our economic practices and institutions to meet changing social and economic needs.....[t]o stay experimentation in things social and economic is a grave responsibility. Denial of the right to experiment may be fraught with serious consequences to the Nation. It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country. Id at 311.

Moreover, the founding fathers did not write the Constitution with idea of setting forth a particular economic system for this new republic but rather by allowing future generations to develop economic, political and social changes for a more "Perfect Union."

Justice Holmes in Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416 (1920), articulated the nature of the Constitution: "With regard to that we may add that when we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in the light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago.” Id at 434.

As such, this nation was founded on an idea that we the people can form a more perfect union without being shackled by the old world's economic, social and political structures.
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Censorship is alive and well on Topix.
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Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot. It is okay to have tens of thousands of government supervisors but to have a CEO, why that is evil!
It is okay to pay actors, singers, athletes, etc. mega bucks but not CEO's!
Just think, we would have cheeped movies, cheaper concerts and cheaper sports events if only they did not pay these guys such large amounts of money. But to pay CEO's competitive wages, why that is evil!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot!
Grateful you supply reliable statistics comparing govt supervisors ratio to private sector supervisors. Or if proven wrong, another one of your famous red herrings of chain yanking? Of course, feel free to tell me to look it up myself, even though YOU brought it up.
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Is only Capitalism covered under the constitution?
The constitution "is not intended to embody a particular economic theory whether, of paternalism and the organic relation of the citizen to the State or of laissez faire.." Lochner v. New York, 198 U.S. 45, 75 (1905)(Holmes, J., dissenting).
The only thing that the constitution "guarantees " as a form of government for every state is that it be a "Republican Form of Government." Article IV, Section 4
As such, capitalism is not mandated in the Constitution.“The Constitution does not require the States to subscribe to any particular economic theory. We are not inclined "to second guess the empirical judgments of lawmakers concerning the utility of legislation,"(internal citation omitted) CTS Corp v. Dynamics Corporation of America, 481 U.S. 69, 92 (1987). Moreover,“As a matter of substantive policy, therefore, government is free to move in any direction, or to change directions, in the economic and commercial sphere. The structure of economic and commercial life is a matter of political compromise, not constitutional principle….” Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center, Inc., 473 US 432, 471 (1985)
Justice Brandeis in his dissenting opinion in New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262,(1932), acknowledged the various economic theories by noting: There must be power in the States and the Nation to remould, through experimentation, our economic practices and institutions to meet changing social and economic needs.....[t]o stay experimentation in things social and economic is a grave responsibility. Denial of the right to experiment may be fraught with serious consequences to the Nation. It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country. Id at 311.
Moreover, the founding fathers did not write the Constitution with idea of setting forth a particular economic system for this new republic but rather by allowing future generations to develop economic, political and social changes for a more "Perfect Union."
Justice Holmes in Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416 (1920), articulated the nature of the Constitution: "With regard to that we may add that when we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in the light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago.” Id at 434.
As such, this nation was founded on an idea that we the people can form a more perfect union without being shackled by the old world's economic, social and political structures.
Many thank. As usual, an informed and scholarly presentation. I am now awaiting the justice's "expert" interpretation.
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Dear Birfoons. On Monday, December 17 the Electoral College will fulfill their responsibility under the Constitution and reelect President Obama. Please wear your black tin foil hats on Monday as you mark yet another epic fail in the land of Birfistan

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