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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133132 Dec 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that CEO's have to "earn" what they get and if they don't, they will be fired. That is how corporations work.
Corporations are owned by the shareholders and and if they don't like what the CEO is doing, they can him. And then they go out and hire a CEO who will. And just like a movie producer who will get a high paid actor, the hires a high paid CEO who will bring home the bacon.
Tell me Jacques, to you get upset about the amount of money "some" actors, athletes, musicians, singers, etc. make? Why not hire a second rate actor so you can have cheaper tickets?
Oh, they do have a professional baseball team here in Jacksonville but it is not major league, it is MINOR league. But you can get just as much entertainment and save money, can't you?
I have never been to the races in Daytona but I have been to a local dirt track and I enjoy it a whole lot better.
How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133133 Dec 14, 2012
Troll for Poopo wrote:
<quoted text>
that's right knuckledragger
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
We know Poppo is Afro-American. You used the word "knuckledragger". I know you would never ever write anything that even hints of reacism, so can you please explain what "knuckledragger" means, context-wise and otherwise?
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
1. knuckledragger
A really dumb redneck, country bumpkin
Larry The Cable Guy ain't nothin' but a knuckledragger

2. knuckledragger
Someone who's intelligence is less than or equal to that of your average caveman.
Wow, he really thought spending 803 Billion dollars we don't have was the way to fix the economy. What a knuckledragger!
buy knuckledragger mugs & shirts
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php ...
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_ ...
Again, the Libtards throw out the Race Card;

Andrea Mitchell:'Woman of color' blocked from secretary of state bad for GOP

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/14/an...

Did Andrea Michell ever bring out the Race Card when Liberals complained about Sec. of State Condi Rice? Why now? How pathetic people like Jacques is!

That's tight, it is from Fox News because the Libtard News Media will not address the issue. Because they, being Libtards, are the offenders!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133134 Dec 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh Jacques, how much is the director of the American Red Cross compensated? How about the Salvation Army? How about Unicef? How about Catholic relied?
Now, how much of each buck people donate to those organizations actually gets to the people who are in need?
You want to get the best people for those charitable organisations, don't you? And you expect them to hold that important and difficult a job and not be paid? You want them to work for nothing or peanuts? And how do you attract the good ones?

Are you for one second comparing the salaries of corporations heads to heads of the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Unicef? Really? Salvation army? Major in charge makes about %60,000 a year, in ANY city. Yes, Unicef, Red Cross chiefs make over $200,000. That sounds fair to me, in view of the scope of the work they do and the qualifications and experience required to hold such an important job. Again, how does that compare with private enterprise?

As to the proportion of admin costs and actual moneys donated, I'm not going out on a limb on that, but you certainly don't hesitate to do so. Have you any figures? And if so, anything to back them up? I do know, from the yearly reports they submit, that the Salvation Army here in Ottawa, along with Union Mission and Shepherds of Good Hope spend more or less 15% on administration, rest going to good works. Sounds awfully reasonable to me.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133135 Dec 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Ah, because the corporate melt down was NOT their fault!
Next, what portion of a product, example, does the CEO take? Now, what portion of a product does the people who made it take? Talking about comparing apples and oranges!!!
Oh, why to governments have such a high supervisor to worker rate when compared to the private sector? That is right. Typical governments have twice as many supervisors as do private sectors.
Compare a police department to a private security company and you will see just what I mean.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133136 Dec 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How in heaven's name can you be so wrong and at same time make up a whole cheering section for the upper crust? How many CEOs have been fired lately, even in the wake of the 2008 corporate meltdown? Name 'em. And when you do manage to name a few, tell us about their severance pay, bonuses and pensions. Compare that to employees, bakers, etc.
As to movie stars, athletes, who are way overpaid, NO ONE is forced to pay to watch them, unlike the commodities that big corporations make and that workers HAVE to produce at an unfair fraction of execs' salaries and consumers forced to buy at inflated prices. Comparing movie stars and jocks to ordinary folks is really emphasizing the oranges and apples fable. As to movies and sports, well, Rogue, if idiots who pay outrageous prices to watch them just stopped going or reduced their attendance, market,as you said, would react and admittance price would be reduced along with salaries. When it comes to consumer items and workers, it doesn't work that way, as both are essential. God, why do I waste my time like this?
Lunasquid doesn't understand there's a difference between a CEO and a laborer. Private sector....butt out! lunatic!!!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133137 Dec 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Troll for Poopo wrote:
<quoted text>
that's right knuckledragger
<quoted text>
There you go again making something racial. A "knuckledragger" is;
<quoted text>
Now, you Libtards want to make it a race issue when many of us never used it that way. To me a kuckledragger is a Neanderthal-type [Libtard] and the last I heard Neanderthals were WHITE!!!
It is like the thyme Baa baa black sheep. It had nothing to do with black people. Why do you Libtards always have to make something a racial issue when the original meaning had nothing to do with skin color?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_...
Read again, I even said you would never ever make a racial remark, didn't I? So why the outraged defensive stance? Feeling guilty? You know darn well what knuckledragger means, specially when addressing a black person. Read and hang your head in shame for you knew very well it was a racist remark :

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php... ...

"Stereotypical and racially prejudice term referring to people of African decent. Stems from the idea of these people having long, monkey like arms."

OF AFRICAN DECENT, Rogue. What a flaming hypocrite (Rogue, tm reg'd) you are. What a racist. Knuckledragger indeed. This is not the first time you allow your racist nature to ooze out.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133138 Dec 14, 2012
Until the the early 1980's every Army aviation battalion had a fire crew just in case there was a crash. And then along came Ronald Reagan and they did a survey.
Unlike civilian airports where most crashes occur at the airfield, most military crashes occur away from the airfield. And they decided to do away with tactical fire detachments and most of the firemen were re-qualified in specialties that were in greater need. They called it "More bang for the buck".
Yes, Ronald Reagan trimmed the fat and saved taxpayers money!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133139 Dec 14, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Lunasquid doesn't understand there's a difference between a CEO and a laborer. Private sector....butt out! lunatic!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot. It is okay to have tens of thousands of government supervisors but to have a CEO, why that is evil!
It is okay to pay actors, singers, athletes, etc. mega bucks but not CEO's!
Just think, we would have cheeped movies, cheaper concerts and cheaper sports events if only they did not pay these guys such large amounts of money. But to pay CEO's competitive wages, why that is evil!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot!

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#133141 Dec 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I can understand your reluctance to not keep count. I'm sure I wouldn't.
I'm not as familiar with the Constitution as you obviously are, therefore and inorder to further my education, I'd be most grateful if you could point me to the articles of the Constitution that say, and I quote "There is a difference between a Capitalist and a Marxist-Socialist Bastard! The Constitution covers us Capitalist, but not you" . Does it really say capitalism is covered by the Constitution and socialism is not? Thank you in advance.
Is only Capitalism covered under the constitution?

The constitution "is not intended to embody a particular economic theory whether, of paternalism and the organic relation of the citizen to the State or of laissez faire.." Lochner v. New York, 198 U.S. 45, 75 (1905)(Holmes, J., dissenting).

The only thing that the constitution "guarantees " as a form of government for every state is that it be a "Republican Form of Government." Article IV, Section 4

As such, capitalism is not mandated in the Constitution.“The Constitution does not require the States to subscribe to any particular economic theory. We are not inclined "to second guess the empirical judgments of lawmakers concerning the utility of legislation,"(internal citation omitted) CTS Corp v. Dynamics Corporation of America, 481 U.S. 69, 92 (1987). Moreover,“As a matter of substantive policy, therefore, government is free to move in any direction, or to change directions, in the economic and commercial sphere. The structure of economic and commercial life is a matter of political compromise, not constitutional principle….” Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center, Inc., 473 US 432, 471 (1985)

Justice Brandeis in his dissenting opinion in New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262,(1932), acknowledged the various economic theories by noting: There must be power in the States and the Nation to remould, through experimentation, our economic practices and institutions to meet changing social and economic needs.....[t]o stay experimentation in things social and economic is a grave responsibility. Denial of the right to experiment may be fraught with serious consequences to the Nation. It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country. Id at 311.

Moreover, the founding fathers did not write the Constitution with idea of setting forth a particular economic system for this new republic but rather by allowing future generations to develop economic, political and social changes for a more "Perfect Union."

Justice Holmes in Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416 (1920), articulated the nature of the Constitution: "With regard to that we may add that when we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in the light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago.” Id at 434.

As such, this nation was founded on an idea that we the people can form a more perfect union without being shackled by the old world's economic, social and political structures.
Affirmative Diversity

Louisville, KY

#133142 Dec 14, 2012
Censorship is alive and well on Topix.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133143 Dec 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot. It is okay to have tens of thousands of government supervisors but to have a CEO, why that is evil!
It is okay to pay actors, singers, athletes, etc. mega bucks but not CEO's!
Just think, we would have cheeped movies, cheaper concerts and cheaper sports events if only they did not pay these guys such large amounts of money. But to pay CEO's competitive wages, why that is evil!!!
Yep, Jacques is a flaming bigot!
Grateful you supply reliable statistics comparing govt supervisors ratio to private sector supervisors. Or if proven wrong, another one of your famous red herrings of chain yanking? Of course, feel free to tell me to look it up myself, even though YOU brought it up.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#133145 Dec 14, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
Is only Capitalism covered under the constitution?
The constitution "is not intended to embody a particular economic theory whether, of paternalism and the organic relation of the citizen to the State or of laissez faire.." Lochner v. New York, 198 U.S. 45, 75 (1905)(Holmes, J., dissenting).
The only thing that the constitution "guarantees " as a form of government for every state is that it be a "Republican Form of Government." Article IV, Section 4
As such, capitalism is not mandated in the Constitution.“The Constitution does not require the States to subscribe to any particular economic theory. We are not inclined "to second guess the empirical judgments of lawmakers concerning the utility of legislation,"(internal citation omitted) CTS Corp v. Dynamics Corporation of America, 481 U.S. 69, 92 (1987). Moreover,“As a matter of substantive policy, therefore, government is free to move in any direction, or to change directions, in the economic and commercial sphere. The structure of economic and commercial life is a matter of political compromise, not constitutional principle….” Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center, Inc., 473 US 432, 471 (1985)
Justice Brandeis in his dissenting opinion in New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262,(1932), acknowledged the various economic theories by noting: There must be power in the States and the Nation to remould, through experimentation, our economic practices and institutions to meet changing social and economic needs.....[t]o stay experimentation in things social and economic is a grave responsibility. Denial of the right to experiment may be fraught with serious consequences to the Nation. It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country. Id at 311.
Moreover, the founding fathers did not write the Constitution with idea of setting forth a particular economic system for this new republic but rather by allowing future generations to develop economic, political and social changes for a more "Perfect Union."
Justice Holmes in Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416 (1920), articulated the nature of the Constitution: "With regard to that we may add that when we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in the light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago.” Id at 434.
As such, this nation was founded on an idea that we the people can form a more perfect union without being shackled by the old world's economic, social and political structures.
Many thank. As usual, an informed and scholarly presentation. I am now awaiting the justice's "expert" interpretation.
Learn to Read

Buffalo Grove, IL

#133146 Dec 14, 2012
Dear Birfoons. On Monday, December 17 the Electoral College will fulfill their responsibility under the Constitution and reelect President Obama. Please wear your black tin foil hats on Monday as you mark yet another epic fail in the land of Birfistan
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133147 Dec 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Many thank. As usual, an informed and scholarly presentation. I am now awaiting the justice's "expert" interpretation.
Lunatic, you know it's not healthy for you to talk to yourself.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133148 Dec 14, 2012
Another example of Libtarian RACISM. How dare a man with dark skin not define himself as as an African-American. You Libtards do know that not all Africans are Negros, don't you? Most of the people from Northern Africa are ....... Caucasians!!! But if a man with dark skin color does not tote the Liberal agenda .... why he is an Uncle Tom!

A Black Man Has Just Left the Liberal Plantation

"Griffin may have made the biggest mistake in his young life by saying that he did not want “to be defined by the color of [his] skin.” To add insult to injury, he went on to say,“I am an African-American in America. That will never change. But I don’t have to be defined by that.”"

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/a-black-m...

Since: May 10

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#133149 Dec 14, 2012
Naw, no racism here?

"On the [ESPN] network’s First Take show [Thursday] morning, Parker said,“my question, which is just a straight honest question, is [Griffin] a brother, or is he a cornball brother?”"

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/a-black-m...

Since: May 10

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#133150 Dec 14, 2012
Yep, the Democrat Party must make everyone a victim. Even if they don't want to be a victim! Rogue

ESPN
"This is a common tactic today. Any time a black person leaves the liberal plantation, black house slaves [Pookies] are sent out to bring him or her back. If they don’t return, then they must be destroyed. Self-reliance is not something that liberals want blacks to believe is an option for them. If blacks ever stop believing they are victims, the Democrat Party will no longer have a reason to resist. Where there are no victims, there are no votes."

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/a-black-m...
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133151 Dec 14, 2012
Has Slobarf been accounted for this morning? Trouble in CT.
Learn to Read

Buffalo Grove, IL

#133152 Dec 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, the Democrat Party must make everyone a victim. Even if they don't want to be a victim! Rogue

ESPN
"This is a common tactic today. Any time a black person leaves the liberal plantation, black house slaves [Pookies] are sent out to bring him or her back. If they donÂ’t return, then they must be destroyed. Self-reliance is not something that liberals want blacks to believe is an option for them. If blacks ever stop believing they are victims, the Democrat Party will no longer have a reason to resist. Where there are no victims, there are no votes."

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/a-black-m...
Dear Rouge. Your obsession is showing (again)

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133153 Dec 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Grateful you supply reliable statistics comparing govt supervisors ratio to private sector supervisors. Or if proven wrong, another one of your famous red herrings of chain yanking? Of course, feel free to tell me to look it up myself, even though YOU brought it up.
A classic example was the job I had for the last 18 months I was in FORSCOM in the Army. At the same time I was doing my job there was someone in PersCom (Personnel Command) doing the very same job. The only difference was that PersCom could actually do something and all I did was prepare briefings for my general.
Oh, what I did was specialize in Aviator and EOD shortages. Do you know the Army has five-man EOD detachments all over the place and half are not even on military reservations. It seems all the time they are disposing of military munitions that are on civilian property. Like hand grenades that you great uncle brought back from WWII!
Did you remember the article that I posted a few days ago that was about a Nazi German fully-automatic assault machine gun that the lady's relative brought back from WWII!

Officers stunned when woman drops off $40,000 WWII German rifle to be destroyed in police buy-back scheme
Gun brought to the U.S. by American soldier and passed to his daughter
It was developed in 1944, holds a 30-round magazine and can shoot 500 rounds per minute

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22457...
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