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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#131588 Dec 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You Libtards really didn't think we would ever go away, did you?

Subpoena Granted for Obama’s Occidental College Records 4 December 2012

There has been much controversy surrounding President Barack Obama’s citizenship; and speculation that his Occidental College transcripts will provide proof of foreign citizenship, based on the application and receipt of a ‘non-US citizen’ scholarship to study in the U.S.

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire has secured a subpoena, from the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, to obtain the following from the Records Custodian at Occidental College:

1) All records related to Barack Hussein Obama, II, also known as Barack Hussein Obama, including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.

2) All records related to Barry Soetoro including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.

If proof of foreign citizenship is obtained somehow through these documents, then Barack Obama doesn’t meet the basic qualifications for the presidency.

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Whether or not this is subpoena is upheld remains to be seen, but the stated deadline for the delivery of the documents to Dr. Ortiz’s office is December 14, 2012 at 11:00 a.m.

View the Subpoena: www.obamaballotchallenge.com or www.orlytaitzesq.com

Read more: http://MinuteMenNews.com/2012/12/subpoena-gra...
"Granted". Another English word Birfoons don't comprehend.

Clue for you moron, how many unenforceable subpoenas has Oily "announced"? Have any of them been worth the paper she printed them on? And this one is different how?
Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#131589 Dec 4, 2012
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
SHEEPLE, good news.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/finally-a-ju...
Could the second time be a charm?
Care to make a wager on how this fails for you?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#131590 Dec 4, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Is Obama a "Natural Born" American citizen? Or just a citizen?
You decide:
First Congress. Sess. II. Ch. 4. 1790
Proceeding thereon; and thereupon such a person shall be considered as a citizen of the United States.
And the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States.
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as natural born citizens:
Provided,
That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also,
That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, shall be admitted is citizen as aforesaid, except by an act of the legislature of the state in which such person proscribed.
Approved, March 26, 1790
~~~~~~~~~~
From my "friend" Jay :)
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagans attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Learn to Read

Chicago, IL

#131591 Dec 4, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Is Obama a "Natural Born" American citizen? Or just a citizen?

You decide:
:)
Ok I will. He's a natural born citizen. Amazingly enough every court in the country agrees with me
Just me

Los Angeles, CA

#131592 Dec 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You Libtards really didn't think we would ever go away, did you?
Subpoena Granted for Obamas Occidental College Records 4 December 2012
There has been much controversy surrounding President Barack Obamas citizenship; and speculation that his Occidental College transcripts will provide proof of foreign citizenship, based on the application and receipt of a non-US citizen scholarship to study in the U.S.
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire has secured a subpoena, from the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, to obtain the following from the Records Custodian at Occidental College:
1) All records related to Barack Hussein Obama, II, also known as Barack Hussein Obama, including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
2) All records related to Barry Soetoro including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
If proof of foreign citizenship is obtained somehow through these documents, then Barack Obama doesnt meet the basic qualifications for the presidency.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Whether or not this is subpoena is upheld remains to be seen, but the stated deadline for the delivery of the documents to Dr. Ortizs office is December 14, 2012 at 11:00 a.m.
View the Subpoena: www.obamaballotchallenge.com or www.orlytaitzesq.com
Read more: http://MinuteMenNews.com/2012/12/subpoena-gra...
Apparently Orly needs help paying the court fees. I guess her dental practice must be as big of a failure as all her court filings.
IToldYouSo

Saint Peters, MO

#131594 Dec 4, 2012
Anoracle wrote:
OBAMA WAS BORN IN MOMBASA, KENYA! YOU NEED AN EDITOR! WAKE UP!‏
You say: "The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii,
has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.
Hawaiian officials agree." THIS IS A LIE!
"Hawaiian Officials" MERELY said they "have his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE"!
They did not say: it is a 'HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE'!
Have some literate person read to you the
"A/P report of the Hawaiian Officials statements"?
Here's another instance were stupidity reigns! Now the Birthers are saying President Obama wasn't born in Kenya but to some guy by the name of Franklin Marshall. I can't wait until Donald Trump starts ranting about this 'Revelation'.

Just proves 4 years of being in a psychedelic induced coma has done NOTHING to bring these fools out of their flashbacks to Purple Microdot and Window Pane flash backs.
IToldYouSo

Saint Peters, MO

#131596 Dec 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You Libtards really didn't think we would ever go away, did you?
Subpoena Granted for Obamas Occidental College Records 4 December 2012
There has been much controversy surrounding President Barack Obamas citizenship; and speculation that his Occidental College transcripts will provide proof of foreign citizenship, based on the application and receipt of a non-US citizen scholarship to study in the U.S.
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire has secured a subpoena, from the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, to obtain the following from the Records Custodian at Occidental College:
1) All records related to Barack Hussein Obama, II, also known as Barack Hussein Obama, including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
2) All records related to Barry Soetoro including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
If proof of foreign citizenship is obtained somehow through these documents, then Barack Obama doesnt meet the basic qualifications for the presidency.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Whether or not this is subpoena is upheld remains to be seen, but the stated deadline for the delivery of the documents to Dr. Ortizs office is December 14, 2012 at 11:00 a.m.
View the Subpoena: www.obamaballotchallenge.com or www.orlytaitzesq.com
Read more: http://MinuteMenNews.com/2012/12/subpoena-gra...
Are you serious? The link to the Ninth Circuit take you to a front end requiring a logon and password. The second one take my browser to that Blowhard Ortiz webpage (with a bunch of broken links. I personally won't be breaking any federal laws trying to access something I'm prohibited from.

I think you're just another goof that's gone over the edge. If the US House of Representatives won't take up the case, John McCain (proven sore loser) or Mitt Romney why in the hell would anyone waste the time believing some nut case like that Ortiz woman?

Face it, it's 4 years later and soon to be a second term with the same guy as President. If you can't handle that relocate to the Bikini Atoll.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#131597 Dec 4, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The United States Attorney General in 1873 ruled the word jurisdiction under the Fourteenth Amendment to mean:
The word jurisdiction must be understood to mean absolute and complete jurisdiction, such as the United States had over its citizens before the adoption of this amendment Aliens, among whom are persons born here and naturalized abroad, dwelling or being in this country, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States only to a limited extent. Political and military rights and duties do not pertain to them.(14 Op. Atty-Gen. 300.)
Of course, I doubt he ever understood the "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", but he did have part of it right.
You can't have complete jurisdiction,if you are born under the jurisdiction of another nation, who knows where you will go and what influence will place upon you.
Why do birfoons quite opinions that do not support their fantasies?

Is it because they don't read the opinions or because they simply cannot comprehend the English language?

In the above-cited opinion, the Attorney General, George H. Williams, stated that for a person born in the United States to become an alien, he would need to become naturalized in a foreign country.

<><><>< ><>

Incidentally, he was not addressing who is or is not born a US citizen, but rather the question of how one may re-acquire US citizenship after renouncing US citizenship and becoming a citizen of a foreign power. As such the birfoon is on the wrong page, as usual. The AG's opinion is not binding, and he certainly did not "rule" anything whatsoever. Had he been acting as a judge in writing his opinion, the opinion would not have been a holding in relation to who is born a citizen but rather dictum.

In other words, Play Law simply doesn't work. Play Judge Dale needs to put his toys away and grow up.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#131599 Dec 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You Libtards really didn't think we would ever go away, did you?
Subpoena Granted for Obamas Occidental College Records 4 December 2012
There has been much controversy surrounding President Barack Obamas citizenship; and speculation that his Occidental College transcripts will provide proof of foreign citizenship, based on the application and receipt of a non-US citizen scholarship to study in the U.S.
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire has secured a subpoena, from the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, to obtain the following from the Records Custodian at Occidental College:
1) All records related to Barack Hussein Obama, II, also known as Barack Hussein Obama, including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
2) All records related to Barry Soetoro including, without limitation, application for admission and transcripts.
If proof of foreign citizenship is obtained somehow through these documents, then Barack Obama doesnt meet the basic qualifications for the presidency.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Whether or not this is subpoena is upheld remains to be seen, but the stated deadline for the delivery of the documents to Dr. Ortizs office is December 14, 2012 at 11:00 a.m.
View the Subpoena: www.obamaballotchallenge.com or www.orlytaitzesq.com
Read more: http://MinuteMenNews.com/2012/12/subpoena-gra...
The subpoena is worthless. A subpoena is never "granted" but issued by clerk of the court.

Moreover, the subpoena is defected since under District Of Columbia, Superor court Civil Procedure Rules, the party requesting the subpoena which requires delivery of documents outside of Washington D.C. and in this case the delivery of documents to Orly's office in California, the requesting party neeeds to file an application and in this case there is no indication that such application was filed.

District of Columbia, Superior Court rules which set forths requirements of a subpoena provides in relevant part:

Rule 45(b)(2) Subpoena:

Subject to the provisions of clause (ii) of subparagraph (c)(3)(A) of this Rule, a subpoena for a hearing or trial may be served at any place within the District of Columbia, or at any place without the District of Columbia that is within 25 miles of the place of the hearing or trial; a subpoena for a deposition, production, or inspection may be served at any place which is within the District of Columbia or within 25 miles of the District of Columbia. When an applicable statute provides therefor, the Court upon PROPER APPLICATION AND CAUSE SHOWN may authorize the service of a subpoena at any other place. A subpoena directed to a witness in a foreign country who is a national or resident of the United States shall issue under the circumstances and in the manner and be served as provided in Title 28 U.S.C. 1783.

Did you know that Orly tried to subpoena the same college previously in a California court and was sanctioned $4000 in attorney fees
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#131600 Dec 4, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do birfoons quite opinions that do not support their fantasies?
Is it because they don't read the opinions or because they simply cannot comprehend the English language?
In the above-cited opinion, the Attorney General, George H. Williams, stated that for a person born in the United States to become an alien, he would need to become naturalized in a foreign country.
<><><>< ><>
Incidentally, he was not addressing who is or is not born a US citizen, but rather the question of how one may re-acquire US citizenship after renouncing US citizenship and becoming a citizen of a foreign power. As such the birfoon is on the wrong page, as usual. The AG's opinion is not binding, and he certainly did not "rule" anything whatsoever. Had he been acting as a judge in writing his opinion, the opinion would not have been a holding in relation to who is born a citizen but rather dictum.
In other words, Play Law simply doesn't work. Play Judge Dale needs to put his toys away and grow up.
you having problems read today?
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#131601 Dec 4, 2012
"readng"

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#131602 Dec 4, 2012
correction:

defected = defective

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#131603 Dec 4, 2012
Bob Costas' anti tirade Sunday was bad enough but why did he choose that moment to give it. Behind him was not standard half-time entertainment but a ceremony to honor police officers and Bob Costas detracted from that event.
So I give Bob Costas a double thumbs down!

Bob Costas on Gun Control following Jovan Belcher tragedy Sunday
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#131604 Dec 4, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>you having problems read today?
What part of actual naturalization would "be necessary to make a person born in the United States an alien" do you not comprehend?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do birfoons quite opinions that do not support their fantasies?
Is it because they don't read the opinions or because they simply cannot comprehend the English language?
In the above-cited opinion, the Attorney General, George H. Williams, stated that for a person born in the United States to become an alien, he would need to become naturalized in a foreign country.
<><><>< ><>
Incidentally, he was not addressing who is or is not born a US citizen, but rather the question of how one may re-acquire US citizenship after renouncing US citizenship and becoming a citizen of a foreign power. As such the birfoon is on the wrong page, as usual. The AG's opinion is not binding, and he certainly did not "rule" anything whatsoever. Had he been acting as a judge in writing his opinion, the opinion would not have been a holding in relation to who is born a citizen but rather dictum.
In other words, Play Law simply doesn't work. Play Judge Dale needs to put his toys away and grow up.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#131606 Dec 4, 2012
Play Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The United States Attorney General in 1873 ruled the word jurisdiction under the Fourteenth Amendment to mean:
Ruled?

I have made the forgoing answers as specific as I can, to what are abstract propositions;

What "ruling" are you referring to, Mr. Play Justice?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#131608 Dec 4, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The United States Attorney General in 1873 ruled the word jurisdiction under the Fourteenth Amendment to mean:
The word jurisdiction must be understood to mean absolute and complete jurisdiction, such as the United States had over its citizens before the adoption of this amendment Aliens, among whom are persons born here and naturalized abroad, dwelling or being in this country, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States only to a limited extent. Political and military rights and duties do not pertain to them.(14 Op. Atty-Gen. 300.)
Of course, I doubt he ever understood the "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", but he did have part of it right.
Arguendo, suppose the parents of a person born in the US are not "under the complete jurisdiction" of the United States; but rather are are under the jurisdiction thereof, except for political rights and military obligations.

The 14th amendment of the Constitution does not refer to complete jurisdiction over the PARENTS but rather to jurisdiction over the children, who are not born "aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers." (I'm referring to Senator Howard.)

Muddled thinking is the hallmark of Play Law. Sad.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#131610 Dec 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Bob Costas' anti tirade Sunday was bad enough but why did he choose that moment to give it. Behind him was not standard half-time entertainment but a ceremony to honor police officers and Bob Costas detracted from that event.
So I give Bob Costas a double thumbs down!
Bob Costas on Gun Control following Jovan Belcher tragedy Sunday
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
How many times have you slammed the police???? What a hypocrite!!!!
Tea Party Patriot

Chicago, IL

#131611 Dec 4, 2012
If Obummer izant a moozlim than wye did he put pyramids on the back of are dollers?

Take are freedum contrie back.

Tea Party 2 iz comming.

Start packing demoncruds.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#131613 Dec 4, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry birdbrain. AND NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FOREIGN POWER! What part is too complicated for your itty bitty brain? LMAO!!!
Huh? Your response establishes a ruling on the part of Attorney General George H. Williams?

Did you read the post you were responding to?

Of course not. UR a BIRFOON.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Ruled?
I have made the forgoing answers as specific as I can, to what are abstract propositions;
What "ruling" are you referring to, Mr. Play Justice?
Tea Party Patriot

Chicago, IL

#131614 Dec 4, 2012
Why did Obummer not arested Benjamin Gazi for murdoring the 4 americas in the embissy?

Stop protacting the terrists Oscummer Bin Lieing.

Romknee 2013

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