BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

[wojar]

American Lady wrote:

ANCHOR BABIES: The forgotten giant in the debate.(Adjusted 4-28-2010)
Background: The original intent of the 14th Amendment and what it has come to be used for today are two very different matters. Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves. It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to blacks born in the United States. http://www.cairco.org/issues/anchor_babies.ht... In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by writing:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship. It is clear the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of freely giving away American citizenship to just anyone simply because they may have been born on American soil, something our courts have wrongfully assumed.
Source: Immigration expanded rapidly after 1965, in part because Congress shifted the legal preference system to family relations and away from employment needs and immigrant ability. http://judiciary.house.gov/legacy/106-edwa.ht...

Ha ha ha ha ha. Your "source," testimony before a House subcommittee, doesn't even mention the 14th amendment, "anchor babies", or "subject to the jurisdiction."

BirfoonLady is such a riot.

[loose cannon]

Jacques,
In retrospect, those meatheads should have evacuted New Orleans when they saw a Cat 5 hurricane barreling down on them.
It is not rocket science and the local population had ample warning that their lives were in immenent danger and that they should skedaddle.
I would not have waited for an inept government to hold my hand.
loose

[Carl Marks]

How do you starve an Obama Voter ? Hide his food stamps under his work shoes

[Jacques Ottawa]

loose cannon wrote:

Jacques,
Katrina was a natural disaster. The insurance industry as well as the law refers to such catastophes as an "Act of God", quote, unquote.
The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind.

Oh, Sandy was not an "Act of God" or a natural disaster. I see.

And why did you write "The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind"? I should hope not, but that does not erase the fact that they built it and were found responsible for having built it badly.

[wojar]

American Lady wrote:

Alexander Hamilton opposed granting citizenship immediately to new immigrants: "To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty." Instead, he recommended that we gradually draw newcomers into American life, "to
enable aliens to get rid of foreign and acquire American attachments; to learn the principles and imbibe the spirit of our government; and to admit of a philosophy, at least, of their feeling a real interest in our affairs."

Newsflash!

Hey BirfoonLady, we don't grant citizenship immediately to immigrants. They have to be naturalized after residing here while under the jurisdiction of the United States for a period of five years. They also have to take a written test and swear an oath.

[LRS]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

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Care to show one and all where Poppo and I are vulgar and hypocritical? Waiting. I expect we'll all be waiting a very very long time.

Sure jacqazz, go back to your first posts! LOL

[LRS]

Poppo wrote:

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I suppose the best indicator of who knows what they’re doing would be the election results Mr. Liars. Romney lost the state where he had governed by 23 percentage points. Likewise he lost the state where no one ever asked to see his birth certificate and apparently where folks knew him best by 10 percentage points. On the other hand Obama won his birth state by 70 percentage points and the country that he governed by 126 electoral (votes) points.
It would appear by those results Romney had no idea what he was doing.
Btw, did I accuse you of voting for the white guy because he was white Mr. Liars? Why does the ignorant birfoon consistently feel the need to project his ignorance on others?

Get ready everyone. The new saying is coming to a Buttflap near you soon. "It was Romney's Fault"! Poor dimwits.

[LRS]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Oh, Sandy was not an "Act of God" or a natural disaster. I see.
And why did you write "The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind"? I should hope not, but that does not erase the fact that they built it and were found responsible for having built it badly.

You can put a man on trial but you can't make the guilty pay!

[LRS]

wojar wrote:

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Newsflash!
Hey BirfoonLady, we don't grant citizenship immediately to immigrants. They have to be naturalized after residing here while under the jurisdiction of the United States for a period of five years. They also have to take a written test and swear an oath.

What? Mobarf must be sober this morning! It's good to see you took my advice and slowed down on the juicing. LMAO

[LRS]

Poppo wrote:

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“Congratulations Mr. President”
Chief Justice John Glover Roberts, Jr. January 20, 2009
Is that enough ruling for ya Mr. Liars? If not it will be repeated on Sunday, January 20, 2013.

Sorry Johanna, try and stay on topic.

[Fed Up]

Residents Alerted to Obamas' Hawaiian Holiday Plans
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/residents-alert...

Terrorist Apologist Appointed Number 3 at DOJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Romney defeated Obama - if not for voter fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Rogue Scholar 05]

I have zero empathy for the people of New Jersey and New York who did not have flood insurance. Most of which are Libtards who think someone needs to pay for everything when there is a flood.
My former mother-in-law still lives in southeastern Alabama albeit no longer near the Choctawhatchee River.
In 1977 they got hit by Hurricane Fredrick and even though their house was not flood, they could not get to the highway for two days. In 1979 Geico cancelled their insurance so she got re-insured though Alabama Farm Bureau and they asked her if she wanted Flood Insurance and I told her that she was in a flood plane and I thought it was a good idea.
Fast forward to March 1990 and they had a major flood and her house was included. Seven days later her insurance company gave her two checks totally $35,000 and six weeks paid form her motel bill too.
She rebuilt but decided she did not want to live in a flood plain and sold her property a few years later.
The point being, of the thirty houses on her street, only two had flood insurance. Now, how many people in New York and New Jersey have major damage and no flood insurance! And I have no empathy for them what so ever! yep, Libtards think that others need to pay for THEIR misfortunes.

Flood of March 1990 Southeastern Alabama]
Heavy rainfall occurred from March 15th through March 17th in 1990, with totals of 8 to 16 inches producing record or near record flooding along several rivers in the southern two-thirds of Alabama. Extensive damage occurred to streets, roads and bridges, and several major highways were closed. Over 6000 people were forced to leave their homes. There were 13 deaths attributed to the flood event in Alabama.

Some of the most severe flooding occurred on the Pea River at Elba where a crest of 43.28 feet occurred. A levee constructed around Elba was overtopped by a small stream the morning of the 17th, creating a 175 yard break in the levee that quickly flooded the town. More than 1500 people were evacuated with no loss of life. Of the city’s 140 businesses, 130 were either destroyed or severely damaged. Over 1000 homes in the area were also flooded.

On the Choctawhatchee River, a record crest of 40.32 feet occurred at Newton the morning of the 18th, exceeding the crest of 39.4 feet that occurred in March 1929. Considerable residential and commercial flooding occurred in the vicinity of Newton and Daleville, with several evacuations necessary. Further downstream at Geneva, the river crested at 38.54 feet the afternoon of the 19th and flooded 450 to 500 homes outside of a levee built to protect the town. This crest was second only to the crest that occurred in the flood of March 1929.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/bmx/...

[Jacques Ottawa]

Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Care to show one and all where Poppo and I are vulgar and hypocritical? Waiting. I expect we'll all be waiting a very very long time.

LRS wrote:

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Sure jacqazz, go back to your first posts! LOL

What a specific well-detailed reply. Well, care to show me one? Not two or three. Just ONE. Meantime, should not be too difficult locating hundreds of yours. But I don't have to, as everyone is well familiar with your "prose" and inimitable expressions, as who could forget such sophisticated gems as "dumbazzbastard, dumbazzbitch, buttflappers, ripping heart through azzhole etc". Yes, you are very articulate, aren't you? LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).

[Jacques Ottawa]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

I have zero empathy for the people of New Jersey and New York who did not have flood insurance. Most of which are Libtards who think someone needs to pay for everything when there is a flood.
My former mother-in-law still lives in southeastern Alabama albeit no longer near the Choctawhatchee River.
In 1977 they got hit by Hurricane Fredrick and even though their house was not flood, they could not get to the highway for two days. In 1979 Geico cancelled their insurance so she got re-insured though Alabama Farm Bureau and they asked her if she wanted Flood Insurance and I told her that she was in a flood plane and I thought it was a good idea.
Fast forward to March 1990 and they had a major flood and her house was included. Seven days later her insurance company gave her two checks totally $35,000 and six weeks paid form her motel bill too.
She rebuilt but decided she did not want to live in a flood plain and sold her property a few years later.
The point being, of the thirty houses on her street, only two had flood insurance. Now, how many people in New York and New Jersey have major damage and no flood insurance! And I have no empathy for them what so ever! yep, Libtards think that others need to pay for THEIR misfortunes.
Flood of March 1990 Southeastern Alabama]
Heavy rainfall occurred from March 15th through March 17th in 1990, with totals of 8 to 16 inches producing record or near record flooding along several rivers in the southern two-thirds of Alabama. Extensive damage occurred to streets, roads and bridges, and several major highways were closed. Over 6000 people were forced to leave their homes. There were 13 deaths attributed to the flood event in Alabama.
Some of the most severe flooding occurred on the Pea River at Elba where a crest of 43.28 feet occurred. A levee constructed around Elba was overtopped by a small stream the morning of the 17th, creating a 175 yard break in the levee that quickly flooded the town. More than 1500 people were evacuated with no loss of life. Of the city’s 140 businesses, 130 were either destroyed or severely damaged. Over 1000 homes in the area were also flooded.
On the Choctawhatchee River, a record crest of 40.32 feet occurred at Newton the morning of the 18th, exceeding the crest of 39.4 feet that occurred in March 1929. Considerable residential and commercial flooding occurred in the vicinity of Newton and Daleville, with several evacuations necessary. Further downstream at Geneva, the river crested at 38.54 feet the afternoon of the 19th and flooded 450 to 500 homes outside of a levee built to protect the town. This crest was second only to the crest that occurred in the flood of March 1929.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/bmx/...

Are to "love and forgive" not the two most important Christian tenets, Rogue? Thought I read that somewhere.

[Rogue Scholar 05]

loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Katrina was a natural disaster. The insurance industry as well as the law refers to such catastophes as an "Act of God", quote, unquote.
The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind.

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Oh, Sandy was not an "Act of God" or a natural disaster. I see.
And why did you write "The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind"? I should hope not, but that does not erase the fact that they built it and were found responsible for having built it badly.

Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.

"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac...

I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!

[wojar]

Fed Up wrote:

Residents Alerted to Obamas' Hawaiian Holiday Plans
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/residents-alert...
Terrorist Apologist Appointed Number 3 at DOJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Romney defeated Obama - if not for voter fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Sour grapes. Piss, moan, whine. How dare a semi-white President fly in Air Force One. How uppity!

[Johannes]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Katrina was a natural disaster. The insurance industry as well as the law refers to such catastophes as an "Act of God", quote, unquote.
The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind.
<quoted text>
Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.
"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac...
I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!

Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?

[Rogue Scholar 05]

Just a few years ago there were 16,000 millionaires in Britain (in British Pounds) and then they raised taxes on the evil rich people. Well, today they have only 6,000 British millionaires and revenues have DROPPED 16 Billion British Pounds!!!
Soooo, you Libtards need to think why you want to raise taxes on the rich. Is is to punish them for making tooo much money or is it to raise more revenue? If you want to raise more revenue, maybe raising taxes on the rich is not such a good idea!

[Justice Dale]

wojar wrote:

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Says the birfoon who believes "We the People" renders the US less than a sovereign nation.
BTW, the 14th Amendment recites no requirement of citizenship to be subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Birfoons cannot comprehend plain English. Indeed, an alien must be under the jurisdiction of the US, a condition precedent to naturalization in the US.
Grow up.
<quoted text>

I think you are getting dumber by the day.
So, now an alien must be under the jurisdiction. What happen to your subject to?

[Rogue Scholar 05]

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.
"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac ...
I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!

Johannes wrote:

<quoted text>
Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?

Again, I have shown my links to prove my point and AGAIN you FAILED to provide links to prove YOUR OPINIONS!!! Sad, very, very sad!