BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Justice Dale

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wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, Play Justice, but Germans born in the US are not born on German reservations in the US not fully under US jurisdiction. You should write a book: 10,000 ways to miss a simple point.
Their father's were and the child even born here acquired the citizenship of their father's nation of origin, since he isn't a US citizen.
Justice Dale

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LRS wrote:
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Slopuke likes to switch up jurisdiction and allegiance. That's how he keep his sillyazz game going. I don't think he understands either term. But then again, what can we expect from a pollock!
He knows as well as I, Obama is not a US citizen.

The most significant truth to come out of the entire Wong Kim Ark ruling comes from Chief Justice Fuller himself when he said,“the words ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’ in the amendment, were used as synonymous with the words ‘and not subject to any foreign power.’” He was absolutely correct.

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Aliens have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", the Constitution. Only citizens are subject to this jurisdiction, to say they are, would be giving them citizenship by just being here.
Sorry Alice, repeating it over and over does nothing but make you look even more foolish, if that's possible.

You cannot negate reality because it does not conform to delusion.
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It's time for Play Justice to realize that subject to the jurisdiction of the United States cannot be changed to "not subject to the jurisdiction thereof" by an infantile change of phrase.
Aliens subject to US laws are subject to US jurisdiction no matter how you slice it. Grow up and put your children's toys away.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Their father's were and the child even born here acquired the citizenship of their father's nation of origin, since he isn't a US citizen.
Nope, their fathers were not born on German reservations in the US either.

BTW, German citizenship by descent does not depend upon on US (or any foreign) law and vice versa. A child born in England in 1930 of a German father and British mother was both German and British.

UR not working with a full deck.
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Sorry, Play Justice, but Germans born in the US are not born on German reservations in the US not fully under US jurisdiction. You should write a book: 10,000 ways to miss a simple point.
Justice Dale

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Sorry Alice, repeating it over and over does nothing but make you look even more foolish, if that's possible.
You cannot negate reality because it does not conform to delusion.
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In Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94, the court was specifically asked to address “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” and held it meant:


The persons declared to be citizens are “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them (U.S.) direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.

We know for a fact, Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, since his father was never a citizen, nor had the intent to become a citizen of the US.
Justice Dale

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Nope, their fathers were not born on German reservations in the US either.
BTW, German citizenship by descent does not depend upon on US (or any foreign) law and vice versa. A child born in England in 1930 of a German father and British mother was both German and British.
UR not working with a full deck.
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Sorry, the US Constitution does not recognize a dual-citizenship.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, this you can't deny.
Justice Dale

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100% correct. Mobarf is into troll games. I guess we could humor him a bit longer. LOL
I think he soils himself everyday!!

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, the US Constitution does not recognize a dual-citizenship.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, this you can't deny.
Little doggie going in circles chasing his tail.
The US Constitution does not recognize any special status for US citizens who are considered citizens by a foreign country. Children of German parents born in the US have always been natural born citizens and there is nothing you can do about it. Play Law doesn't count.
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Nope, their fathers were not born on German reservations in the US either.
BTW, German citizenship by descent does not depend upon on US (or any foreign) law and vice versa. A child born in England in 1930 of a German father and British mother was both German and British.
UR not working with a full deck.
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jacqazz, you're a dumbazz. Look this word up..."sarcasm"! LMAO!!!
Strange, and it happens all the time. When you're wrong, and in this case, when you misunderstood the whole deal, you chalk it up to "sarcasm", a notion totally foreign to you. You got the Rogue thing wrong, off-base, misunderstood it completely, thought I was blaming him for bad economic news, so pathetic. Just admit you once more got it wrong, you're fooling no one. Keep repeating it, though, and you'll soon believe it's true, like November 6 2012 never happened, ha ha.
Jacques Ottawa

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You idiots have already proven you haven't a clue when someone is pulling your leg. Remember, you voted for a liar and fraud not once but twice! LMAO!!!
That last sentence belongs to GWB's second election. Copycat.

64.5 million people voted for a liar and a fraud. Wow. That's a lot of people.

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, the US Constitution does not recognize a dual-citizenship.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, this you can't deny.
Irrelevant. US citizenship is determined according to US law, not foreign law.
Play Law doesn't count.
The President was born in the US subject to the jurisdiction of the United States -- a natural born citizen. There is no Play Law exception.
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U-Turn: Senate Moves to Eliminate Indefinite Detention Provision of NDAA
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Of then ten Senators sponsoring the bill, eight of them voted in support of the legislation in December of 2011, including Sen. Feinstein.

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wojar wrote:
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Little doggie going in circles chasing his tail.
The US Constitution does not recognize any special status for US citizens who are considered citizens by a foreign country. Children of German parents born in the US have always been natural born citizens and there is nothing you can do about it. Play Law doesn't count.
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Sorry, the US can't strip the citizenship of anyone, unless they request naturalization. That being said, persons born in this nation and subject to a foreign power, do not aquire US Citizenship.

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Tell us the difference moron.
Already have, ad nauseam. You need to explain how anyone can take you seriously that Madison, Kent, the USSC, the Congress, the judges of the US are all wrong when you have a three word vocabulary.
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President James Madison, Chancellor James Kent, Supreme Court Justices over many generations, appellate and district courts of the US "switch up" jurisdiction and allegiance in LRS's play world.
Grow up.
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Irrelevant. US citizenship is determined according to US law, not foreign law.
Play Law doesn't count.
The President was born in the US subject to the jurisdiction of the United States -- a natural born citizen. There is no Play Law exception.
Yes it does and it has spoken, persons born here subject to a foreign power, do not acquire US citizenship, since they are already subject to the jurisdiction of another nation at birth.
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Already have, ad nauseam. You need to explain how anyone can take you seriously that Madison, Kent, the USSC, the Congress, the judges of the US are all wrong when you have a three word vocabulary.
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Once again the buttflap can't answer an elementary question. LMAO! No surprise though. If you can't understand our laws perhaps you should leave? Dolt.

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, the US can't strip the citizenship of anyone, unless they request naturalization. That being said, persons born in this nation and subject to a foreign power, do not aquire US Citizenship.
Children born of German (or foreign parents in general) parents in the US have always been natural born US citizens. Germany is free to consider them whatever she wants. Has no bearing according to US law. Play Law doesn't count. C.f. President Obama is PRESIDENT.
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Little doggie going in circles chasing his tail.
The US Constitution does not recognize any special status for US citizens who are considered citizens by a foreign country. Children of German parents born in the US have always been natural born citizens and there is nothing you can do about it. Play Law doesn't count.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it does and it has spoken, persons born here subject to a foreign power, do not acquire US citizenship, since they are already subject to the jurisdiction of another nation at birth.
Subject to Play Law jurisdiction doesn't count.
wojar wrote:
Irrelevant. US citizenship is determined according to US law, not foreign law.
Play Law doesn't count.
The President was born in the US subject to the jurisdiction of the United States -- a natural born citizen. There is no Play Law exception.
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only fore more yeers and you democruds are out.

I seen many poles that sayed we are win in 2016 so start packing your bags Obummer Pelosey Reed

Taked our contry back 2016 for reel this time. No, cerialisly.

Its over dumbocrats. This time we meen it.

2016 is neer.
Tea Party Patriot

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Dec 2, 2012
 
New Rassmutant poles sayed Obummer loosing by big land slide in 2016.

Blackened panthers cant fix the vote this time

we tooked are contry back

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