I apologize to everyone whom I have chided in the past for cutting and pasting and for putting links in their posts in lieu of actually posying their opinions. I do not do this on a regular basis and feel like a dolt for so doing now. That having been said, Rogue... Here's your sign.<quoted text>
Ah, NO ONE has held the actual document. NO ONE! A photo copy of a jpg image is not a document!!!
Again, name me the people you have examined the actual document!
Kind of puts to lie your claim that "NO ONE has held the actual document. NO ONE!".
You could have done the work yourself, and I will not do this again for you. Do your own work. If you'd like to see what your opponent knows, you have to read what he/she reads.
Representatives from the Annenberg Public Policy Center's Political Fact Check project examined the hard copy of the document and verified that it did in fact bear an official seal, and had been signed by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T Onaka (using a signature stamp).
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaiis Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.