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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#130774 Nov 30, 2012
Fed Up wrote:
Residents Alerted to Obamas' Hawaiian Holiday Plans
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/residents-alert...
Terrorist Apologist Appointed Number 3 at DOJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9evTMt5ozO0XX&feature=pla yer_embedded
Romney defeated Obama - if not for voter fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Sour grapes. Piss, moan, whine. How dare a semi-white President fly in Air Force One. How uppity!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130775 Nov 30, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Katrina was a natural disaster. The insurance industry as well as the law refers to such catastophes as an "Act of God", quote, unquote.
The Army Corps of Engineeers does not build anything with the deliberate intention of failure in mind.
<quoted text>
Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.
"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac...
I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!
Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#130776 Nov 30, 2012
Just a few years ago there were 16,000 millionaires in Britain (in British Pounds) and then they raised taxes on the evil rich people. Well, today they have only 6,000 British millionaires and revenues have DROPPED 16 Billion British Pounds!!!
Soooo, you Libtards need to think why you want to raise taxes on the rich. Is is to punish them for making tooo much money or is it to raise more revenue? If you want to raise more revenue, maybe raising taxes on the rich is not such a good idea!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130777 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the birfoon who believes "We the People" renders the US less than a sovereign nation.
BTW, the 14th Amendment recites no requirement of citizenship to be subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Birfoons cannot comprehend plain English. Indeed, an alien must be under the jurisdiction of the US, a condition precedent to naturalization in the US.
Grow up.
<quoted text>
I think you are getting dumber by the day.
So, now an alien must be under the jurisdiction. What happen to your subject to?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#130778 Nov 30, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.
"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac ...
I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?
Again, I have shown my links to prove my point and AGAIN you FAILED to provide links to prove YOUR OPINIONS!!! Sad, very, very sad!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130779 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
In addition to conflating citizenship and jurisdiction, the birfoon also conflates diplomatic status with alienage.
Sad. He needs to put his play justice robe and gavel back in his toy box.
<quoted text>
no, only citizens are bound to the Constitution, as in "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Aliens have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", the US Constitution.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130780 Nov 30, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Care to show one and all where Poppo and I are vulgar and hypocritical? Waiting. I expect we'll all be waiting a very very long time.
<quoted text>
What a specific well-detailed reply. Well, care to show me one? Not two or three. Just ONE. Meantime, should not be too difficult locating hundreds of yours. But I don't have to, as everyone is well familiar with your "prose" and inimitable expressions, as who could forget such sophisticated gems as "dumbazzbastard, dumbazzbitch, buttflappers, ripping heart through azzhole etc". Yes, you are very articulate, aren't you? LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
Canadian Sausageboy, have you realized that you only repeat yourself over and over? Never coming close to making any point. Are you attempting to deny that you act like an azz on here? Don't even! LMAO Remember that choice you made a long time back? Act like an azz, get treated like an azz? Well, here you are. It's such a simple principle I thought even a DIMwit could get it but I was wrong. I think you're quickly approaching the "mumbling" stage. LMAO
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130781 Nov 30, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?
The citizens did most of the early levee building. Try and grasp this point.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130782 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Insipid. Minor children have no say in our government either.
When were you first diagnosed with mental illness?
<quoted text>
Makes no difference, aliens have never had a say in our governmental process.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130783 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Whether one is in this country "by treaty" or not does not change the fact that a those who are not foreign ambassadors or hostile occupying troops are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States while in this country and must obey our laws.
Grow up.
<quoted text>
they may be under the jurisdiction of, local, state and Fed statutes, but never bound to the Constitution, as being subject to it.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130784 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense. Treaty provisions are subject to the treaty clause of the Constitution.
BTW, a person born of US citizens in Canada is a US citizen per 8 USC 1401, but also is a Canadian citizen per Canadian law.
It is an infantile notion that citizenship by birth in a foreign country "strips that [US] citizenship away," or that citizenship by birth in the US "strips away" foreign citizenship.
Put your play robe and gavel back in your toy box and grow up.
<quoted text>
the Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship and the US government has no authority to strip a citizenship, unless requested by the individual.
Treaties are not subject to citizenship.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130785 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like Play Justice Dale needs to have his mommy put him to bed for a nap.
Four years of Play Law and $1.25 can get the Play Justice on a bus.
The constitution is the supreme law of the US, and ordinary aliens in this country are subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
Yes, the Constitution is the jurisdiction over the US, aliens have never been subject to it, if so they would be called citizens.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130786 Nov 30, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the levees around New Orleans failed because the city FAILED to maintain them. The levees owned but the Army Corps of Engineers did NOT fail.
"The local levee boards retained the role of maintenance once the projects were complete"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_Control_Ac ...
I worked in New Orleans in 1989-90 and it was generally known that the City was not maintaining the levees and further more the pump motors (city property) were located at the same level as the pumps so when they flooded, they stopped working. This had been known for decades.
No, we Federal taxpayers paid a half-billion of our dollars to replace the city owned pumps with new pumps who's motors would be ABOVE the flood point.
I and sick and tired of MY federal tax dollars going to bail out Libtard cities who will not maintain their own stuff!
<quoted text>
Again, I have shown my links to prove my point and AGAIN you FAILED to provide links to prove YOUR OPINIONS!!! Sad, very, very sad!
Sorry, I have provided the links several times including yesterday. The Army Corps of Engineers have admitted that their design was flawed.

The levee system was not even complete nor transfered to the City of NO. How could NO be responsible for maintence on something that wasn't under their control?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#130787 Nov 30, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>I think you are getting dumber by the day.
So, now an alien must be under the jurisdiction. What happen to your subject to?
Nonexistent distinction. Grow up. Put your play robe and gavel back in your toy box.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130788 Nov 30, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
The citizens did most of the early levee building. Try and grasp this point.
What time frame are you speaking of? 1810??? 1900???

Try to answer the question.

The levees that failed around NO were designed and built by the Army Corps of Enginners. These levees were 60-90% complete when Katrina struck. The Army has admitted that their design was at fault, causing the failure. Try to grasp this truth.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130789 Nov 30, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Nonexistent distinction. Grow up. Put your play robe and gavel back in your toy box.
Ladies and Gents,we have a mumbler! HEE HEE HEE
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#130790 Nov 30, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
The citizens did most of the early levee building. Try and grasp this point
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
What time frame are you speaking of? 1810??? 1900???
Try to answer the question.
The levees that failed around NO were designed and built by the Army Corps of Enginners. These levees were 60-90% complete when Katrina struck. The Army has admitted that their design was at fault, causing the failure. Try to grasp this truth.
Johannes, Johannes, LRS and his birther ilk have not yet grasped that Romney lost and Obama is still president. And that is fairly recent, less than a month ago. How do you expect a crass vulgar fundamentalist birther tea partyer to grasp something that happened years ago? His prejudices, hate and envy prevent him from thinking on a rational level. C'mon, he talks about his beautiful nurse girl friend like it was real. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#130791 Nov 30, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey jacqazz, take note. Now this is some funny shat! LMAO!!! Guess Terry doesn't read your comments or Mobarf's or Bladder Splatter's or Pops, etc, etc. Terry you're biased and hypocritical at best.
.

You'd be hard pressed to prove bias or hypocracy. You might be able to prove that I manage to get a point across without resorting to juvenile, bathroom humor. Calling people names doesn't make you better than them, just the opposite, in fact. And referring towomen in degrading, vulgar terms makes me think you might not like women... not that I'm judging your lifestyle.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#130792 Nov 30, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, the design and construction has been shown to be at fault.
I am sick and tired of the Lifer trying to fabricate the facts.
Admit that the design of the Army Corps of Engineers was flawed....they have done so, why not you?
Again, Yohannes failed to provide a link to support his allegations. The Army Corps of Engineers was instructed by CONGRESS to rebuild the CITY OWNED levees to withstand a Cat-2 hurricane after the 1965 Hurricane Betsy. And they did. It was never designed or built to withstand anything greater than a Cat-2 hurricane and that is not the fault of the Army Corps of Engineers.
If you go up the the Mississippi River levees that were designed, built and maintained by the Corps of Engineers you will see the difference. They are like golf courses. NO trees are allowed to grow on them and no varmints are allowed to borough into them either. The levees own by the City of New Orleans are totally different and it was not the fault of the Corps of Engineers.
The PHI heliport at N.O. was located next to the Mississippi River levee and, like I said, it is like a humped golf course. The grass is maintained better than most states maintain the grass next to Interstate Highways.
When I worked for PHI there were some days when we could not fly and once we spent three days during a hurricane evacuation from the Gulf as the PHI heliport at Venice was not only out side the Corps' levee but also the State's levees. Yep, PHI had their own levee and it was destroyed during Hurricane Katrina and they built a totally new heliport about five miles north of there that had a Corps' levee on the east side and a State's levee on the west side.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#130793 Nov 30, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the Constitution is the jurisdiction over the US, aliens have never been subject to it, if so they would be called citizens.
Repeating Play Law over and over doesn't make it real.

Only a delusional fool would believe that "We the People" established a nation lacking the jurisdiction of a fully sovereign nation.

Citizens and aliens (i.e., persons, DUH!) in this country are subject to the jurisdiction of the US under the Constitution. That has been true since day 1.

Now put your play robe and gavel away in your toy box. You need a nap. Your Play Law crashed and burned years ago.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like Play Justice Dale needs to have his mommy put him to bed for a nap.
Four years of Play Law and $1.25 can get the Play Justice on a bus.
The constitution is the supreme law of the US, and ordinary aliens in this country are subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

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