BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Since: May 10

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#130420 Nov 28, 2012
You may have heard that Hostess Bakery plants shut down due to a workers' strike. But you may not have heard how It was split up. The State Department hired all the Twinkies, the Secret Service hired all the HoHos, the generals are sleeping with the Cupcakes and the voters sent all the Ding Dongs to Congress.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#130421 Nov 28, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>So, the US Constitution is play law! Damn, how many US Military personnel have been killed over play law?
Dale's play law interpretation is play law.

Don't forget to put on your engineer's cap when you play with your choo choo train, Play Justice. All aboard the crazy train!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#130422 Nov 28, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not really. Next time try "shown". It's the proper way.
Thank you.

Obama has SHOWN his birth certificate TWICE, the short form and the long form. Only birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are experts and who certainly have not shown that they are impartial---have CLAIMED that there is anything wrong with Obama's birth certificate. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, the National Review, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and the members of the US Congress do not believe them.

Re the $5 million offer:(1) when a supporter of your political opponent makes you an offer, it is common sense to ignore it; (2) It is not a good precedent for the President of the United States to do something for an offer of money by an individual, even if the money is for charity; (3) if Trump wanted to give $5 million to charity, he could give it without making an "offer" to Obama.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130423 Nov 28, 2012
I also see Omama has not seriously discussed any plans to reduce spending. Who would have guessed? LMAO!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130424 Nov 28, 2012
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Yucaipa seems to be in southern California.
Both Watts and East LA are located in southern California.
Get the point?
You are either north or south of that imaginary Mason-Dixon line across this nation.
I would say you are south.
The point being that you are trying to draw a connection between Yucaipa with Watts and East LA (East Los to the locals) where there isn't one.

The Mason-Dixon line isn't imaginary, it's real.

Being in Southern California in now way connects one with the South, the land of backwards red-necks. You obviously don't know that when people refer to the South, they are talking about the States in Rebellion.

Do you consider South Dakota to be part of the South as well????
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#130425 Nov 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I mean, ask any past President to show his BC for 5M to the charity of his choice and they'd jump on it. That doesn't say anything to you?
<quoted text>
No he hasn't shown any copies of either his BC or CoLB. Jpg images are not documents. Just try showing a police officer a jpg of your drivers licence, registration and proof of insurance and see what he says!
Actually, Obama showed the official physical copies to the press, both of the short form and the long form. In addition, of course, he showed the Web images of those documents, which was the only way to show them on the Web, of course. Want to see the citations that he showed them?

Oh, and Mitt Romney only showed a Web image of a photostat of his short form birth certificate, and unlike Obama it was not confirmed by any officials of his state, there was no Index Data and there were no notices in the newspapers that confirmed Mitt's birth in Michigan, and no teacher who wrote home.

The point that I am making is that not only is there a birth certificate from Hawaii, and that Obama has showed it both on the Web and the physical copies of it, but there has been ample confirmation that the original birth certificate exists in the files in Hawaii and that it says that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Meanwhile, there is absolutely no evidence (except of course for forged "Kenyan birth certificates," which of course is NOT evidence) that Obama was born anywhere else than in Hawaii. And the Kenyan government has denied that Obama was born in Kenya, and his Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya, but said instead that he was born in Hawaii, and said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama's birth was IN A LETTER FROM HAWAII.

Want to see the citations?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130426 Nov 28, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale's play law interpretation is play law.
Don't forget to put on your engineer's cap when you play with your choo choo train, Play Justice. All aboard the crazy train!
Slopuke, you're the one living in a fantasy land. One that has never been visited by anyone at anytime. Congrats, frontiers man! LOL
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130427 Nov 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Did we declare war on North Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, etc.?
"No South Korean representatives signed the agreement, which was always intended as a temporary measure."
http://www.rferl.org/content/The_End_Of_The_K...
Silly Libtards, they think that if we simply remove our soldiers from an area, the war ends?
There are only two ways any wars ends. A peace treaty or capitulation.
Not so fast Lifer. You said we were still at war with North Korea. So tell us what was the date that the USA declared war on North Korea.

Silly Lifer.....continues to fabricate history.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130428 Nov 28, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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Here is a decision by the US Army Judge Advocate General's office that says that a US-born child whose father was a German citizen who was never naturalized is a Natural Born US Citizen. And it specifically says that dual citizenship does not affect the situation.
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/0...
Moreover, sadly you have not been following CONSERVATIVE legal principles. Conservatives have always said that foreign laws do not affect, and cannot be allowed to affect US laws. And in the case of dual citizenship that is exactly right, US law does not allow foreign laws to affect US Citizen status (or as the JAG ruling shows, NBC status), and yet you think that they do.
Well, that is giving entirely too much power to foreign laws, a most non-conservative thing to do. And besides, it is not the law, foreign citizenship laws simply have NO effect on US citizens in the USA.
To be born a citizen of the US, one must be born exclusively "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", simply stating, not subject to any foreign power.
With $2.00 and the JAG's opinion, you might buy a beer.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130429 Nov 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I mean, ask any past President to show his BC for 5M to the charity of his choice and they'd jump on it. That doesn't say anything to you?
<quoted text>
No he hasn't shown any copies of either his BC or CoLB. Jpg images are not documents. Just try showing a police officer a jpg of your drivers licence, registration and proof of insurance and see what he says!
The President is not obligated to participate in Trump publicity stunts.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#130430 Nov 28, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>No, the US Constitution determines who will be citizens,"and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", after all we are a Constitutional Republic.
Says the birfoon who believes municipal law in the US is unconstitutional.

Play robes and a toy gavel do not make Play Justice Dale anything but a delusional fool living in a play world.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
“As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the same person may possess a dual nationality.” Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 329 (1939).
Sorry, loser.
Affirmative Diversity

Louisville, KY

#130431 Nov 28, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
There’s no such thing as reverse racism Rogue. Like rape is rape, racism is racism.
Affirmative Action is reverse racism.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130432 Nov 28, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so fast Lifer. You said we were still at war with North Korea. So tell us what was the date that the USA declared war on North Korea.
Silly Lifer.....continues to fabricate history.
Well pops, why don't you just stroll across their border and see how long it takes before they put a bullet in you? Do you understand the hostile?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130433 Nov 28, 2012
*the word hostile
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#130434 Nov 28, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Well pops, why don't you just stroll across their border and see how long it takes before they put a bullet in you? Do you understand the hostile?
Do you have the date that war was declared?

Yes or No?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130435 Nov 28, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
The President is not obligated to participate in Trump publicity stunts.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. Keep up or keep out!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130436 Nov 28, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale's play law interpretation is play law.
Don't forget to put on your engineer's cap when you play with your choo choo train, Play Justice. All aboard the crazy train!
A
Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.
A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States.
Get use to it, Puss.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#130437 Nov 28, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Under the Constitution he was born a citizen of his father's nation, " and not subject to the jurisdiction, thereof".
Under the constitution?

Please recite which part of the US Constitution grants foreign citizenship to anyone, and please recite which part of the Constitution is governed by foreign citizenship law.

Play law doesn't work.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, BirfoonBoy, but foreign law has no effect or force in the United States. The Unites States is a sovereign nation; last time I checked. Under US law he was born under the allegiance of the United States. Under the Constitution, the US determines who its citizens are per US law.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130438 Nov 28, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
The President is not obligated to participate in Trump publicity stunts.
You consider $5M to a charity a stunt? Wonder how the charities feel about that? Omama didn't "cowboy up"! sad very sad
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130439 Nov 28, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Under the constitution?
Please recite which part of the US Constitution grants foreign citizenship to anyone, and please recite which part of the Constitution is governed by foreign citizenship law.
Play law doesn't work.
<quoted text>
That is right, not being subject to the jurisdiction, thereof, must mean you belong to another country.(ref. 14th amend)

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