BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130187 Nov 27, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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That is right. The US constitution says nothing about dual citizenship status. Since it does not specifically exclude dual citizens from being eligible and since the meaning of Natural Born Citizen includes even dual citizens, dual citizens ARE eligible. And there have already been several dual citizens who were President of the USA, including Thomas Jefferson and James Madison (who had been made full voting citizens of France by the French National Assembly), and Woodrow Wilson who was a dual citizen of Britain at birth since his mother had never relinquished British citizenship when she became a US citizen by marriage.
Wilson's father was a US citizen, that is all that counts.
Until the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was carried over into the 14th, the states made the citizens and made a mess of it, that is not the case any-longer, is it!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130188 Nov 27, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Personally, I neither hate not love billionaires, as I don't know even one. However, I think that they should pay a higher percentage of income tax than me. A mere 5-point percentage hike in their tax would mean nothing to them, a dent, but a lot for the economy. Does that mean I hate them?
How does a higher tax rate for the wealthy help the economy?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130189 Nov 27, 2012
LRS wrote:
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And what does the 2nd Amendment have to do with being an ignorant street thug?
Do you mean an AK-47 ARMED ignorant street thug, thanks to the 2nd amendment and NRA.?
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130190 Nov 27, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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That is right. The US constitution says nothing about dual citizenship status. Since it does not specifically exclude dual citizens from being eligible and since the meaning of Natural Born Citizen includes even dual citizens, dual citizens ARE eligible. And there have already been several dual citizens who were President of the USA, including Thomas Jefferson and James Madison (who had been made full voting citizens of France by the French National Assembly), and Woodrow Wilson who was a dual citizen of Britain at birth since his mother had never relinquished British citizenship when she became a US citizen by marriage.
You must read, Principles of Constitutional Construction, then come back and we will discuss, dual-citizenship.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130191 Nov 27, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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To whom are you talking to?
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Ah, no it was not obvious. And I have never thought of my self as holier-than-anyone. I guess God would let a good atheist into heaven.
And what about a big mouth? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes, I was extra hopeful that we would put off the election. I just thought there were more smarter Americans than there turned out to be. I mean, we have the worst economy since the Great Depression and for the very same reasons. Looks like four more years of gloom and doom.
I thought I had been clear. I did not call you a big mouth nor was the "holier than thou" think aimed at you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#130192 Nov 27, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Also note, there may be 11 African billionaires but there are 394 American billionaires and when you consider that Africa's population is more than three times that of America, that is really a statement.
A statement of what? RU afraid to state your conclusion?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#130193 Nov 27, 2012
Poppo wrote:
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How would you know who’s white or black Rogue? Were you relying strictly on looks? If so did you miss number 1?
http://africanvibes.com/wordpressnew/2010/03/...
Diamonds, slavery, blood money. Nothing to be proud of pops!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130194 Nov 27, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Of course, the 150 or so cases thrown out by the courts might prove otherwise, to a rational person, I mean.
Did you ever look at the reasons for....
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130195 Nov 27, 2012
LRS wrote:
The U.S. relies on Morsi for Mideast security. That should go real well. NOT! The people in the White House are S - T - U - P - I - D!
Well, the US got him to force a cease-fire, no? What happened in Egypt last year was beyond any country's control, including the US. You wanted the US to back Mubarak against the people's will, including demonstrations of 100s of 1000s of angry people? Now the fool Morsi has done a Mubarak, the people are again angry and watch for a possible ouster and a coup d'état by the pro-US Egyptian military.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#130196 Nov 27, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Also note, there may be 11 African billionaires but there are 394 American billionaires and when you consider that Africa's population is more than three times that of America, that is really a statement.
But while you seem proud of African billionaires, you seem to hate American billionaires.
Johannes wrote:
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Oh, please tell us what the connection is between population and billionaires.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Obviously you do not understand demographics. Sad, very sad.
Johannes wrote:
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Obviously you cannot answer a simple question. Sad, very sad.
Sorry, I thought you graduated high school. If Africa has about a billion people and there are 11 billionaires, there are about one billionaires per 91,000,000 people. But here in the American we have over 400 billionaires for 310 million people which means there is one billionaire per 777,000 people.
In other words you are much more likely to be a billionaire if you live in ...... America!
Now, we are talking about ninth grade math here!!! Yes, it is a VERY simple problem with a very simple answer. And you have an electrical engineer degree?!?
Do you know how to use an E6B?
http://www.pilotmall.com/product/E6B-Metal-Fl...
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#130197 Nov 27, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
The US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status, nor can the US Government strip a foreign citizenship from anyone, unless requested by the individual, through naturalization.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's country, this condition has never changed.
Obama was born an alien and still remains one, not eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
Further to that the Supreme Court decided in Perkins v. Elg that dual citizenship does not erase natural born citizenship.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130198 Nov 27, 2012
Johannes wrote:
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It's a stupid question???? Is that what you wrote???? Hell, it's the EXACT same question that you asked of me. Guess the joke is on YOU!!!
What a joke.
Hey, can you ever respond with something of substance and not just middle school name calling? LMAO!!!!
Middle school? Again you overestimate him. Why?
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#130199 Nov 27, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You must read, Principles of Constitutional Construction, then come back and we will discuss, dual-citizenship.
The Supreme Court decided in Perkins v. Elg that dual citizenship does not erase natural born citizenship.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130200 Nov 27, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Pinball wrote:
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I couldn't understand that. Your lisp is getting worse. Try again...
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So, who is Pinball then? He isn't me!
Rogue, that is the second time you feel targeted. Getting suspicous, no? I have no idea why you're asking, as pinball is obvbioulsy the brillant Guru, multipled moniker, hijacker and plagisarist cut-and-paste $1.6 million real estate dealer and precious metal expert. ha ha.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#130201 Nov 27, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
The US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status, nor can the US Government strip a foreign citizenship from anyone, unless requested by the individual, through naturalization.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's country, this condition has never changed.
Obama was born an alien and still remains one, not eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
Don't forget to cc your Congressperson and the USSC.

Have a nice fantasy.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130202 Nov 27, 2012
sloopy21 wrote:
SLY, my friend, wrote:
We all need inner Peace after the election so I'm passing this on in case you haven't found it yet.It worked for me today.
A doctor on TV said that in order to have inner peace in our lives after this election, we should always finish things we start. Since we all could more calm in our lives, I looked around my house to find things I'd started and didn't finish.
I finished a bottle of merlot, a bottle of chardonnay, a bodle of baileys, a butle of wum,tha mainder of valiuminum scriptins,an a box of choclutz. Yu has no idr how fablus I feel rite now.
Sned this to all ur frenz who needinner piss,an tellum u luvum.
Good night everyone .
hahaha ----...
And when you awake tomorrow from your stupor and suffer from a humongous hangover, will it help if I remind you that Barack Obama was just given a second mandate and will be around another 4 years?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#130203 Nov 27, 2012
Ihategaysandfeminist wrote:
Quit taking from us ,you bunch of Losers!!!!
Alabama. Hmmm
it raises revenue

Charleston, WV

#130204 Nov 27, 2012
How does a higher tax rate for the wealthy help the economy?

Raising Revenue is good, We also should cut Expenses at the same time
and staring with the 1% makes sense.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#130205 Nov 27, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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Further to that the Supreme Court decided in Perkins v. Elg that dual citizenship does not erase natural born citizenship.
no such thing as dual-citizenship! In Elg, she was a natural born citizen, the dual-citizenship had nothing to do with the outcome.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#130206 Nov 27, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Also note, there may be 11 African billionaires but there are 394 American billionaires and when you consider that Africa's population is more than three times that of America, that is really a statement.
But while you seem proud of African billionaires, you seem to hate American billionaires.
I have no feeling one way or the other about billionaires from wherever Rogue.

Again, Africa is a continent; the US is a country so the population difference is not applicable.

And please don’t say you meant the Americas because Africa’s population would certainly not be very much bigger

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